Flagging, Upvote Bots, Reward Pool: Steemit needs an improvement!

in steemit •  7 years ago 

Dear Steemians,
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in the last days and weeks Steemit showed an ugly face to its users. They were told the following rules:

  • You will be flagged because you and your content are bullshit
  • You are raping the reward pool, so I will terminate your existence here
  • Your reward is too high anyways
  • Don't use Upvote Bots (except my own one)
  • Don't do this or that otherwise you will be punished

Nice new community, isn't it ?

NO, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOMETHING GOING WRONG!

How can we change this situation?

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This is the situation:
There are too many possibilities to remove the rewards from Steemit.
And this leads to the actual situation that we have a fight between those who think they are protecting the steemit community and those who think they deserve what they get from steemit.

The solution is easy:

Put a limit on individual accounts sending a certain number of postings and comments per day

@ned are you reading?

Even Twitter is putting limits on their accounts.

Twitter says you can only send out 1,000 tweets per day. That includes retweets. Plus, Twitter breaks this daily limit down into semi-hourly intervals, so that accounts cannot post more than a certain number of times per hour or so.
Twitter also has a limit on the number of direct messages you can send per day, set at 250.

http://www.adweek.com/digital/know-your-limits-how-many-tweets-can-you-post-per-day/

So I think the witnesses should define the limits and then we should restrict the number of postings and comments.
This would make it much more difficult to abuse the steemit system.
And if really a user thinks he is a genius like Leonardo da Vinci and the world needs hundreds of messages from him per day, he still can use Twitter besides Steemit. But Twitter does not have a reward pool for their users, right ?

Is this the solution to everything ?

No. If the user is only allowed to create two or three postings per day, and he wants to gain the maximum profit he will try even more to use upvote bots.
So limits on individual accounts will make upvote bots more popular.
But this problem is IMHO not as bad as the other problem that Steemit is missing limits for postings and comments.
And of course there are also solutions to the "problem" with the upvote bots.

Have a good one and enjoy Steemit!

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a limit should be there plus many take away rewards from a single upvote

@ulfr sir

What I learned here :
Steemit is not only about UPVOTES & Money
It is about writing..
It is about reading..
It is about knowing people and their side of the story..
It is about learning..
It is about finding a path to follow..
It is about keeping yourself motivated to write better..
It is about broadening your thinking..
It is about spending your time productively..
It is about making you think from a different perspective..
It is about writing without any expectations of UPVOTES..

Hmmm, instead of limiting the number of posts and comments, how about setting an interval for user before they can post or comment again? Kinda like what reddit does?

This would be good as well !

I also think there should be some way for the community to flag accounts that they think are bot and can only get back voting privileges when they can prove they are not. But I guess that would be a bit too censorship for a community that is decentralized in spirit.

@ulfr - Sir intervals for posting is a good idea... I seem Reward pool rappers are out there...

+W+

This would help reduce a lot of spam coming in from some new accounts.

very good idea

Your suggestions are good to decrease reward pool rappers~

Limiting the vote power is a must. With HF20 we can see it too.

~Followed & Upvoted

you have reaveled the hidden truth, its hear to harsh and rude but that the darkest side, but we are here to fair steemit.

I like your initiative .really it make sense.And it will make people to sit down and think properly and bring more time to organise a post instead of just posting rubbish just because there is no limitation.thanks for suggesting this wonderful idea.

I agree with what you have said.To maintain the quality of the platform there should be a proper system of solving these shortcomings
-cheers-

Hello @ulfr,

Extraordinary good suggestion, having a limit on posting is a good idea to control reward pool draining & limit vote power helps to reduce self upvotes too.

~@mywhale

Yes my opinion also same..because of this up vote bots causes ..good content posts are in lag ..people think that if a post has a high sbd votes ..ho this is good content and also they blindly write a comments with out related to the posts...if we ask and comment in that posts they have a high powers and if they flag our reputation is damaged...steemit need this development..@ulfr

@ulfr,
Limiting number of posts is a good idea, but we must limit amount of self upvoting! That's the best thing we should do!

Cheers~

nice :D

Great point raised, there should be equal posting limit. Thanks for sharing this post.

Have a great day and stay blessed.

I'm always trust steemit is very good social media platform..
I'm now byeeee to fb..twiter...youtube..
Hiii....to steemit...
Hahahaha...
Bcz...I always know steem can change my future.

Beautiful post.

I like post @ulfr.

It is great idea and must follow these rules and regulations

Good post @ulfr and very interest.

I like your post...good post @ulfr.

Good information @ulfr.

This is extraordinary photography and great work

Much obliged @ulfr

Have an extraordinary day

Amazing and so interessing post thanks

plz do fly for maroc

thanks

Nice

Much thanks to you so much my companion for this astounding distribution.

Lovely jarny data.

A debt of gratitude is in order for sharing

@ulfr

there is a solution for everything so we will found out of this thing too

this depends truly on the community and the people what type of post's they wanna see as this is truly decentralized but not good to see the reward being stolen away like that

the steemit works on suggestion and ideas a i personally think that you have mentioned some nice points

Are this limitation really going to happen on Steemit.thanks for information.

It is only my suggestion for an improvement but with no limits you can see how the actual situation has developed.

many are just misusing the flagging system juat because if you flag then get some steem so some just flagging for own benefit

mostly the attack the high rank person so be aware of it ..

Ok thanks!

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I support you until the end very nice post @ulfr

the high prices of sbd has led to this thing i think the prices will go down and this thing will be stopped

excellent photography
100% like and resteem

Wow nice post.Limiting number of posts is a good idea, but we must limit amount of self upvoting! That's the best thing we should do!.
Thanks for sharing
@ulfr

This is great article and wonderful photography
Upvote Resteem

limits wouldbe a very nice idea!

If steemit become like other social media platform like fb and twitter than it take over both fb and twitter

self voting to me is a big problem other people should reward you on the basis of content we produce

there are upvote bots how one can get rid of that you just give or send sbd and boom you have your upvote

there should be a limit of upvoting per day and the maximum rewards that one can earn how about that as an idea

the upvoting is in fact limited by the power you spend for the upvote

its like a loot going on the best content should be rewarded because steemit is made for that

hard fork 20 might came out with lot of changes and everyone will go down hahah those who earn too much with their upvote it's the highlight of that

You are right. Although I'm new to steem, I realise there are some problems about reward system. Thanks for your ideas.

Excellent suggestion for an improvement! Thanks for sharing us.

I want steemit would become like facebook, facebook is good site.

useful information, thanks

great idea..thanks for sharing..

Woowwwi like it @ulfr
Hahaha good post sis/brath @ulfr

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Good thanks

Interesting post sir.Thanks for sharing. Upvote and resteem done done.

i love steemit... This post is very beautiful and has many important information about steemit. It is very important for new and old steemit users

Fantastic photography
Resteem

I love steemit . Plz help me i am new here . @ulfr

so informative post ................thanks a lot for sharing

This isnt good for us newbies

Why?

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Are this limitation really going to happen on steemit .thanks for information @ulfr

great post sir

thanks foe this information.

Yes, I really need to be healed :( @ulfr

Wow beautiful photography
Thanks @ulfr
Have a great day

Amazing

Thanks for information