Yes, definitely - I got involved a while ago where 'steemcleaners' were downvoting everything from a guy and it all started by him just including a couple of basic image links at the bottom of his post.. Something that many users do here, including some of the ones at the very top of the system.
I learned there that Steemcleaners isn't actually an 'official' part of steem and they aren't even acting on an official policy, it's just some guys who are acting as vigilantes to 'clean up' steem of content that they personally don't want on here. :/
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I too got involved in all of this because of @Steemcleaners.
@adm is another Proxie account that appears to be pretty crappy.
I really don't like my posts being Flagged this way unless I was attacking someone.
But to be construed as a "Plagiarizer" and a "Parasite" by ANYONE on an Open Platform is a bit Absurd. I don't need someone else's BOT telling me what content I should or shouldn't look at. And Flagging should not affect rewards... that's just asking for trouble.
Thank you for posting your concerns. They are valid and shared my many.
Too many...
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I have just created an addon for steemit that mildly improves the situation with downvoted posts being hidden. ;)
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You are welcome - exposure leads to change!
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That and bots operating with whatever logic they are using can quickly create havoc, especially if backed by a decent amount of steem power.
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I have just created an addon for steemit that mildly improves the situation with downvoted posts being hidden. ;)
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Some guy that the community allows to do that, rewards their efforts. Again the project is open source and there aren't any admins or "officials", there are developers but one can fork the project whenver they wish, they can distribute the tokens, and implement whatever policy they wish.
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There is an issue here in that there is a Terms of Service for steem that actually could be said to prohibit the actions of Steemcleaners. Despite their claims to be supported by the community, there are many who disagree with their decisions and for justifiable reasons.
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There are no terms for steem, none that were explicitly agreed to anyway.
Yes people will disagree but it's only an issue if it's consequential like a lot of people, or a large majority, but what are some reasons that you consider justifiable for people to disagree with spam, tag spam and otherwise curation for those ends?
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Oh, I meant to say that there are terms of service for Steemit, not Steem. Since Steem and Steemit are both created by the same group, I combine them in my mind.
The terms of service for Steemit specifically includes a term in section 17 that is relevant.
Cases of blatant plagiarism with no added value from the author and deliberate malicious misuse of the software that amounts to criminal intent are valid reasons to downvote, i think. Deliberate propaganda and misinformation is also a valid reason. Some might say that some of these are subjective, but ultimately I feel that the absolute truth can be known in all cases - though it might require a lot of research to find it.
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Nope, it's irrelevant what someone writes as Terms of Service if nobody agreed to anything.
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Not at all, Steemit Inc. Is subject to local laws and as such could be compelled to comply with them or face termination. As such they could choose to remove accounts from Steemit and, although I am not familiar enough with the licensing for Steem, could potentially also be forced to effectively enforce laws on Steem too. It's a new technology, so the case law is not clear - i think - however, a blockchain is not an ungovernable system.
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Unfortunately that doesn't mean anything, the point remains, that if I didn't agree to any terms they aren't enforceable, it doesn't matter what Steemit Inc the company is subject to, the data on the chain, the tokens, the account is mine, it's not theirs, and they have no right over the blockchain or the data in the blockchain.
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They have right to determine who does and does not use their services.
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