@Sweetsssj : Sixth Day Eleventh Hour Selfvoting via a 13-Account Content Farm ?

sweetsssj (76) · 7 years ago

This has gone far enough.

You should find better things to do than try start witch hunts based on incomplete and defamatory information. I devote the large majority of votes to my friends and family who happen to come from a country (China) where Crypto is quickly becoming incredibly difficult to use. Yet, the value of a platform which gives them a voice and freedom from oppressive regimes is something I will continue to push, not just to my friends and family, but people all over China as well as the developing world at large. Countless people have joined Steemit because of my efforts over the last 1.5 years, and even more people who are now inspired to write travel and food blogs from seeing my blogs as an example.

I will support the people who have decide to take up steemit because it is their only avenue for expressing themselves freely. This is an intangible value which even with my full vote cannot be measured or felt in the short term. Rather, the rippling effect of being able to remain free to share, participate and earn will collectively contribute to a movement freeing a nation of people from oppression and censorship.

Those of you who insist on continuing the witch hunt by parading higher moral fibre whilst turning an eye to actual abuse, may I remind you that you are harming my friends, family and other people whom I support because you simply do not know the other half of the story. It is far easier for you to complain at the apparent injustice and go the route of ad hominem, completely forgetting the fact that for every bit of extra reward earned by one person, another has to compromise. This is not a socialist platform, and it never will be, please do not perceive the fact that rewards going to some people mean that if that were not the case, the rewards would be coming to you. It simply doesn't work like that.

Friends, family - including my own parents, uncles, aunties have contributed what I deem to be valuable, and I am acting within the rules set forth by the protocol by voting for them. A lot of the issues here seem to be directed at the fact that my friends and family send their earnings to a single place to cash out, how is that illegal? How is it fraudulent? How is it wrong that a family member cashes out the crypto on behalf of people in a country where crypto has pretty much been outlawed and the three largest crypto exchanges have now been shut down with more oppression to come?

Are you judging their content at all? Or are you just jealous that you are not a close friend or family member and that voting for friends and family is illegal and fraudulent on this platform? (It's not) Because should you want to exercise such a high standard of morality, then you surely have better cases to be worried about than me and my circle of friends and family who contribute real content and not just 4 word comments and self voted n number of times per day. If you want a good look at an example of that, then take a look at :

I suppose your grandiose accusations of grand theft and fraud on my part despite my explanations are some how in your mind still worth attacking, and likely boil down to the fact that you probably just don't like me for whatever reason, and have chosen to go the selective bully route because you probably feel cheated at the fact that I've never voted for you. Unlike other stake holders with considerable SP, I have never thrown downvotes around or threatened them, and you probably feel comforted by that making me an even easier target.

Over a year ago, I met Ned and invited him to dinner along with my mother in Hong Kong. He recommended that I get her and the rest of my family to join Steemit. She is one of the first people from my circle to join, and has been contributing diligently for over a year. She along with the rest of our friends and family have done nothing wrong and by launching your attack on them, you are in effect saying you think people who write 500+ words often in two languages and post original images similar to the kind that I do, do not deserve their rewards whilst people who write 4 letter comments do. It's so easy to turn a blind eye sometimes but I guess as they say : a drowning man will clutch at straws. Frankly, if you directed your energy into writing something of my liking, like the many other people who you haven't listed which I support, then I would still consider upvoting you. As it stands, false defamatory posts painting an incomplete picture of the situation will not attract my attention, and you vehemently asserting incorrect facts will not, and do not, make them true.

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walden (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Is anything I'm stating false?
Thank you for downvoting the post at -100% with your 800k SP
I tried to contact you several days ago on all chats to get your side of the story and got no reply
May I ask why you vote for them very close to the 6th day and 11th hour?

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13 votes

sweetsssj (76) · 7 years ago

Self voting is a claim you make based on them sharing the same memo. You don't know enough about me, my friends, my family, the situation of cashing out in China, to be sufficiently informed about why this is necessary. So yes, this is false.
You're welcome.
Not a single person called 'walden' has messaged me on Steemit chat which is the only place I ever hang out.
I vote within the time period permissible by the rules of the protocol.

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12 votes

koto (51) · 7 years ago (edited)

I vote within the time period permissible by the rules of the protocol.

You're doing this in order to everyone not to notice you're farming the reward pool. But ooops.

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troglodactyl (58) · 7 years ago

If you're falling back on it being permissible by the rules of the protocol, then the same can be said about what @walden is doing making people aware of it, or about what I've been doing downvoting them.

We're all invested to some degree in this network, so ideally we should be on the same side. Having read some of your explanations I'm inclined to stop downvoting, but I still hope you'll at least reconsider the last day voting. It looks really bad.

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

4, Stop playing dumb, He's asking you why.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

yeah please answer the question of @spectrumcons @transisto

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago

If you wonder why I upvote comments that are simple links saying "Explanation for high upvote" maybe you should start by clicking the link.

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spectrumecons (69) · 7 years ago

It would help if you provided a brief explanation as to why someone should click the link. A few words and a high upvote is very off putting.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

thank you in advance @fruityfinkamran

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

@sweetsssj - on #4, you do not owe him or anyone an explanation.

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

It is your vote. You use your vote how you want. Do not let other tell you how to vote. No one has a right to tell you how to vote. No one period. I think it is good that you are supporting your family and your friends, but you also support others and steemit with your post. And no I have not voted on any of your post that I can recall. I did look at a couple of your post, but no vote and no comment. I have been using my vote elsewhere. Your vote always, no one else's.

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sircork (64) · 7 years ago

How did her English suddenly get so academically good compared to any post she ever made about food?

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6 votes

reddust (71) · 7 years ago

It's obvious that many people on the trending page have editors or writers...heck I would. I'm thinking of getting my husband to research for me ... this is common sense...with the rewards she makes she would be crazy not to employee an assistant.

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sircork (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

To write her public appeal arguments in this instance? Or to write her posts in very different grammer styles than displayed here. So is she an imposter when making her case here? Or when taking vastly unbalanced reward pool shares for bikini pics? Which one is the real one and what are the ramifications of it being someone else in either case? Think that over carefully.... there are ramifications to each scenario.

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reddust (71) · 7 years ago (edited)

@sircork, nice to talk with you again, I have enjoyed reading some of your post. You are suggesting this account is a host to multiple users. I've thought about this a lot actually but not because of sweetjsss's issues, the trending page has the same actors day in and day out churning out masses of data. How can one person do that make the trending page every day or every time they post? OMG...so boring to wear the same clothes or no clothes (haha) every day, which is what the trending page shows people who are checking steemit out.

When I read post like this and see the obvious greed from small to large accounts gaming the system I often think about...

Corruption Causes Poverty

If steemit wants to survive we need some codes of conduct and the ability to ban bots and people who abuse the system.

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6 votes

sircork (64) · 7 years ago

I am against centralized authority. My comments here are only because I feel the person answering the arguments here is not the same person who makes the posts and I am finding that to be very interesting, though uncertain how relevant it is.

I agree that corruption causes poverty, and I fight poverty every day with my teams at @YouAreHOPE Foundation, steems premier worldwide humanitarian aid organization, so I'm with ya. But I don't want centralized rule.

It's a tough situation sometimes.

reddust (71) · 7 years ago

I could argue that codes of conduct are not centralized authority if a group the group write up the codes and we all agree on how to abide by them.

I don't feel like doing that since I have several large projects staring at me ...saying, "get to work."

I will check @youarehope foundation out! I work on an individual bases with my charity work and avoid large charity groups that I cannot physically check out to see how things operate.

I've worked in many small and large groups and raised a family, without some kind of moral and ethical rules and a way to enforce them the groups/family fall apart quickly.

veerall (50) · 7 years ago (edited)

I mentioned 100z of times that there are many here on trending page who are fake, its a group that pays someone for being the front face.. she is fake, iv been telling this since very long time, but i guess dicks will always be dicks.. its easy to pay someone for making her a pose on camera, and making big bucks. have u seen all her posts? there is something fishy about them. especially the dance video post..

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theinsideout (52) · 7 years ago

There's nothing wrong with employing ghost writers and editors. That's my day job. I am a ghost. It says so on my profile. Most of my work on the outside has somebody else's name on it. Who cares if you get paid?

I also have enjoyed many of her posts and updated a couple. I like to learn about cool attractions that I will probably never get to visit myself. She seems like an intelligent, cultured, and pleasant young lady to me. I am a female, so the bikini pics don't do a thing.

On the other hand, it's tough to get traction if you start with a modest investment, so I wish there was a more balanced way for the small fish to get fed here. That's certainly why there are so many dead fish in the pond. There are some great curation efforts like #steemstem, but yeah, most of the trending page is crap.

winstonwolfe (71) · 7 years ago

Not sure if you read the post, but this has very little to do with ghost writing.

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ddatica (39) · 7 years ago

This needs more upvotes

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spectrumecons (69) · 7 years ago

I've chat with her several times on steemit.chat. She is remarkably intelligent and has knowledge in many different areas. The way she responded in this post is consistent with the conversations I've had with her. Her food and travel posts are written to a style consistent with the material and the audience she is appealing to. These posts do not need to be expressed in an academic style. I also adapt my style depending on the content and audience. I don't think that is particularly unusual.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

i still believe its a group, not one person, and she is being paid for it..

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

Exactly my thought!

truthtellerhere (59) · 7 years ago

She has hired a top lawyer, let's say, but then we may have to rewrite the rules of Steemit should we want to make her feel guilty for that.

Just days ago I saw some shitty, unreadable posts that got like 200 SBD and I was like WTF. That's more than what I have in total. So I will say, let's go after those unreadable posts first. It may not be fair on our part to throw mud at quality content in the hope that it may accidentally stick.

From my own experience, I have to say that content creators need MOTIVATION. Not a witch hunt.

Her content is worthy of imitation. Just beautiful!

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ddatica (39) · 7 years ago

But she -if there really is a "she" or a single person behind that post- is milking out the network HARD. I find it very important to go down on heavy liches like this account. The degree of money being cleared off the network is too heavy.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

well thats coz they are either whales or friends with whales.. basically we need to lick their asses in th chat, to get rich here.. alot of them are good at that, not me, and cannot do it..lol or if ur friends or gf or a relative of a whale..

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

People with SP has the freedom to upvote the posts they like.
In Steem, you have freedom of speech to say whatever you want.
If the people you talked about doesn't like your post, they have the freedom to downvote you.
User can vote as they wish. They can vote on the first day or on the 6th day. This is not a valid question.

CODE is LAW

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winstonwolfe (71) · 7 years ago (edited)

THEN UPDATE THE CODE.

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

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dapeng (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

'1. Yes. As far as I know, the post by @paulag you cited is false. I wrote a post criticizing it.

'4. Minnows can share more curation rewards if they vote before the whale votes. 6th day is good for more minnows to share.

fruityfinkamran (44) · 7 years ago

@walden there are also other people who are ready to support you and also looking back for your support @fruityfinkamran

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jondahl (61) · 7 years ago

3, You try to justify it by contacting him but you do not confirm to the person you mentioned in your writing, maybe with information from them you will have some consideration before guessing a job someone else. I may be very offended by the kindness of others you make excuses to blame. if you do not contact him then be patient for a moment better than you directly punish him.

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walden (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Him? (Second Freudian Slip)

Aren't you the user mentioned in the post that buys votes from her?

Thank you for your mistakes

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jondahl (61) · 7 years ago

Not true as you allege. if you have a problem with someone you do not like then I think you solved it. I do not need a word of gratitude from you.

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walden (65) · 7 years ago

What is not true as I allege? everything I allege is backed...

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fruityfinkamran (44) · 7 years ago

Her @walden according to me you are doing really great job because I got some information from this post So, I am supporting you, and hope you will support me as well.

Thanks

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whatamidoing (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

People are bitter because you bring in a lot of money with your posts and the content is rather....surface...it doesn't go very deep. It's just pictures of a pretty girl and fancy food and fancy places, things that everyone either really wants (so they are jealous) or has little to no interest in (so they think it's overvalued). I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm just explaining why you become a target. I appreciate this kind of in depth look into where such a large portion of our reward pool is goin and hope to see a similar examination of any top users, though I understand your frustration if something was misrepresented here.

I personally don't want to say anything negative about anyone who is honest and transparent, regardless of how I feel about your posts. I feel anyone with so much weight (power) should be much more transparent. You might invite less criticism with a higher level of transparency. You know that most long time users on steemit believe there is a team behind your account. Whether this is true or not is notnreally a great concern of mine, but perhaps more transparency will help you to avoid headaches such as this.

I don't really feel ANY posts are worth as much as yours, but I don't place the blame on you, but rather on the established whales who continue to vote for people who ALWAYS go trending no matter what they contribute. I find you to be polite and friendly enough and I have not seen you pour fuel onto the fire of any drama at steemit so I do have to give you that. But perhaps this is just the cost of fame, which is why I search for success without fame.

No hard feelings, just want to make a suggestion. And one more, I hope you use your voting power to help out some of the many struggling minnows on the platform.

Have a good day steemit celebrity ;-P

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7 votes

ackza (72) · 7 years ago

She does use her voting power to help MANy struggling minnows go look at her freakin votes go look at her curation and look at all the followers she has you think she got those without helping a LOT of people?

I just hate how people are assuming he is making ALL this money without upvoting ANYONE else she upvotes MANY more people than herself

people are committing the sin of class warfare on steem, its 100% jelousy , jelousy from people without steempower and jealousy from other whales who don't have as many followers

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whatamidoing (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

That's good to know. I don't assume anyone gets a lot of followers for being a good person because I know most people prioritize their own success at the platform and upvoting content that is sure to make money is one way to do it. But that doesn't mean I assume she doesn't help people.

When the wealth is so unevenly distributed you can't blame the ones who don't have much for the class warfare. I certainly think we can do without any warfare and talk about it though.

I have no hard feelings for @sweetsssj, I just don't believe anyone deserves $600+ for a post when just $1-10 would make such a huge difference to the vast majority of users and so she is one of the few dozen steemians who I consider to be overvalued by default and that has nothing to do with her content or who she is as a person or whether or not she is a "she" or a "they". So I stand by everything I just said.

And it's good that you share your experience and opinion too.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

I apologize to any newbies in here who I got mad for believing this troll post

Walden is just a troll, he makes himself sound smart so he tricks a lot of people but just LOOK at Waldens Blogs, its crazy how little he actually posts useful stuff its just whatever, i just cant focus on this anymore

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miqdad (36) · 7 years ago

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theinsideout (52) · 7 years ago

I think her posts are fine. She has expenses to travel to these places, take photos, and then translate her posts into at least two languages. It's hard to produce that level of quality without an initial investment. It's possible that some of the places she highlights also pay her for promotion. Hey, it's a good gig. There are problems and worse offenders here.

fyrstikken (75) · 7 years ago

seems to me you are mixing something shady with something real.

I do not doubt that you support friends/family, I am sure we all do that.
The shady part in this story is that all that money from all those accounts go to your bittrex account.

Also - I did not like to see you flagging this post like a criminal trying to hide evidence or make sure nobody sees it. And may I add - you spend too many words "explaining yourself" - like people often do when they are lying.

The way you act and the way you explain yourself, @sweetsssj makes a lot of people doubt you right now, as the owner of http://STEEMspeak.com I can tell you first hand that people are extremely extremely interested in your business-dealings, finding the "key" to your "success"...

And I believe people like Walden, and others - once they start digging they wont stop - and why should they? Maybe they find something you dont want them to find? Maybe that is exactly what needs to be found? If there is nothing there - then why are you acting as if it was?

Do you understand how many people see it? And do you understand that flagging @walden was a dumb thing to do?

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18 votes

sweetsssj (76) · 7 years ago (edited)

frystikken, thank you for highlighting your concern and bringing some insight. Perhaps it was heavy handed but the real issue is people making incorrect assertions based on incomplete information and making judgements from it.

It's fine to dig, but finding something and calling it something else - in this case, me voting a bunch of friends and family and outwardly claiming those are me selfvoting is categorically wrong.

I haven't been involved in crypto long enough, so I don't have good experience with how to cash out. In China, it was difficult before, and after the recent crackdown even more so. Thankfully, I have a friend who cashes out for me and does so on my behalf as well as the others and this is why we share a memo.

Thanks for the wisdom F

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13 votes

transisto (74) · 7 years ago

Do you know how to convert Steem in to bitcoin and store it on your phone?

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

That is obviously not what she is talking about
Why don't you go to China and try making money off Steem OR bitcoin and CASH IT OUT or SPEND it without getting in trouble and tell us how easy that is for you ....huh?

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

What's obvious is that there are way more people who will exchange fiat for BTC rather than STEEM anywhere in the world. So having it converted to BTC on her own is the only thing that should happening at bittrex. That she's delegating that simple step to someone else is a bit odd.

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mobbs (69) · 7 years ago

Well, there's two sides to this. As somebody living in China, it's actually quite easy - localbitcoins. Can get it sent straight to your Alipay (for the sake of this comment - like paypal). I've done it to order pizza and stuff for proof of concept.

That being said, Chinese citizens are forced to register their ID to any of these websites (many of the big ones simply don't allow or have a separate, chinese-version of their website), removing any anonymity and security-from-government. The best way to get around this is to get somebody like me - a non chinese living in china - to do it with their home country ID

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slothicorn (59) · 7 years ago

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grey580 (61) · 7 years ago

Hello, let me introduce you to ackza.

He's a dick.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

@grey580 , slothicorn was talking to transisto , not me . Do something productive like call out walden for being the troll he is ...

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grey580 (61) · 7 years ago

If I think it's appropriate. I will.

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organduo (72) · 7 years ago

If you keep creating value for others here on Steemit or anywhere else, this value will come back to you. Keep being awesome. Keep being yourself.

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news4u (44) · 7 years ago

Let them say or post what they like but i know that you are Heart of Steemit community and we will always support you

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

I just get so mad sometimes on here

I have t o breath and realize its all juts a video game

I just want to see winners rewarded , i just dont like seeing people without much success calling out the person with the success as if they are wrong for making money on steemit... she deserves her moneys . Shes contributed a LOT to steemit and has brought many many many people and she will be bring many millions of Chinese to steem she should not be treated like this

I get the whole open discussion thing but come on we should be bearing down on REAL problems not this, this is just crazy

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago

It's not a video game and nobody's doubting her contribution to Steem.

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thedaud (51) · 7 years ago

@transisto You are so helpful. your blogs and resteems are awesome. I am waiting for your next post. Thanks for everything. God bless you.

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abusereports (72) · 7 years ago

Hi @transisto,

It seems you got a $85.4414 upvote from @transisto at the last minute before the payout. (20.18h) and this comment is to make everyone aware.

Please follow @abusereports for additional reports of reward pool abuse. Thank you.

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mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago

she will be bring many millions of Chinese to steem

That would be interesting :)

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miqdad (36) · 7 years ago

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slothicorn (59) · 7 years ago

We see how you're trying to mix the pot for Troll Drama. Find something else that constitutes actual abuse. This is obviously a witch hunt.
Make another shitcoin video with your energy. This doesn't make you look pretty.

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bi5h0p (55) · 7 years ago

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oups (63) · 7 years ago

lol thank you for that, made me smile, isn't she able to express herself. Even a community account up/downvoting for her. Makes everything more suspicious. There are simple questions still awaiting for answers, yet..

*I'm so excited for my first flag

teamsteem (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

I appreciate this explanation. I guess you voting them on the 6 day highlights some of the issues Steem currently has.

To make it clear, I understand why you don't upvote them sooner and you might consider those post shouldn't end up trending but that doesn't mean those posts aren't worth what you are giving them.

Worth is something subjective. I vote on stuff with 100% upvote that some people would think wasn't even worth 1 cent.

Steem is not always an obvious place and things aren't always as they seem. Steem is full of issues just like our society at large. Everyone is trying to do their best with what they have.

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12 votes

walden (65) · 7 years ago

if we are reasonable Im sure we can all understand eachother

quinneaker (74) · 7 years ago

Well said as usual!
You are an honorable man!

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charles1 (68) · 7 years ago

@teamsteem once again you judged maturely and correctly...making me feel proud voting you as my witness... worth is something subjective indeed. I support all @sweetsssj posts because I love the quality and if I were to have her steem power (Gosh I wish one day) I will vote family and friends too (plus other people too as I do daily) ...who wont do that? damn why get steem power then? hmmmm thanks for your comment

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mrblu (62) · 7 years ago

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jonny-clearwater (71) · 7 years ago

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

I think it is worth a community discussion. The blockchain is transparent for a reason. I didn't see him call you a thief, I thought the post questioned if you were selling votes, which isn't a crime or even frowned on by all.

I think we can just discuss if this is the best use of the reward pool. I also agree transisto's actions and Haejin are also a concern. The rest of us who have investments here deserve to understand where the reward pool is going.

Nothing personal from me, but I want to discuss it.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

there are a lot bigger fish to fry, this is not worth a community discussion if we arent going to actually discuss real issues like account creation and other such matters, I didnt sign up to steem to scrutinize Top content creators wallet memos and you didnt either

walden and fyrst are just being admitted trolls and creating drama on purpose and that is fine, more attention and more followers for sweetsssj, great, good job.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

If you don't wish to discuss it, why don't you go ahead and not discuss it.
If you didn't sign up to talk about this... Then don't.

Seemed like you like Fyrst, just fine until he disagreed with you on an issue.

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quinneaker (74) · 7 years ago

GOOD point!
The truth is that EVERYTHING is worthy of a discussion, especially if there are 2 or more people interested in that discussion!

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slothicorn (59) · 7 years ago

True dat.

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miqdad (36) · 7 years ago

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

please stop spamming the same meme over and over.

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miqdad (36) · 7 years ago

You wish......

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justyy (82) · 7 years ago

支持甜心，其实这些人就是眼红。不要影响自己的心情哈。

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zens (33) · 7 years ago

agree ,support @sweetsssj

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leftbank (67) · 7 years ago

@sweetsssj : I am supporting you, period.

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jrvacation (68) · 7 years ago

Well said!
Each of my travel post is easily 500 words in 2 languages too. Compare that to those rubbish memes earning 100x more than me :(

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

Borrowed from: @justyy - 支持甜心，其实这些人就是眼红。
@jrvacation - you are not doing badly either - so, instead of complaining about the success that @sweetsssj has accomplished, learn from her! I commented on her post that there is a team, albeit a small team, of professionals that has made her look really professional! There could also be some private business arrangements to enable her to be so successful.
I do not follow you or upvote you out of principle. I do hope that you leave with useful knowledge and become more successful.
All the best to you!

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jrvacation (68) · 7 years ago

Can't you see that I am supporting @sweetsssj with my comment? I said "Well said!" to her post.

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stabilowl (63) · 7 years ago

You have our support @sweetsssj. You are one of the few big whales who actually make quality content! I salute you for that! 甜心姐加油！

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spectrumecons (69) · 7 years ago

Her content is truly exceptional. She also inspires so many people. It is great that you are supporting her when she needs you the most.

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dhn0411 (7) · 7 years ago

I -I-I want to atttact your attention.

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slothicorn (59) · 7 years ago

We support you @sweetsssj. The trolls gotta troll, is the main takeaway from all this.

yahqan (60) · 7 years ago

I love u @sweetsssj..... why the robot up vote is not at issue ..

fangcan888 (37) · 7 years ago

The Unsupported News

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chriselyngascon (54) · 7 years ago

Why would anyone gets jealous? That is part of interacting in the platform. I even invited my boyfriend to do something like this so we can have support to each other.

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

Thanks for explaining the common memo, that had me worried.

As I have been clear about, vote selling equals reward pool rape.
Delegation renting, too.
Any rewards received for anything other than 'good' content is reward pool rape.

It is not your fault that you put out content that is sooo good that folks are compelled to vote for you, that is the game we are playing, after all.
If they don't like the rewards you are getting they can not vote for you, as I do.
I try not to vote anything that has more than a dollar or two, I figure those folks need it more.

What I want to say is, keep going, you are doing an excellent job at this game, the haters are gonna hate.
Anybody that has interacted with the author of this post knows what he gets like when he is drunk.
Not that he doesn't have that right, or that he is wrong to do so.
The right to make an ass of yourself is a very important feature of freedom.
How else could we know about his feelings if they were kept hidden?

I'm just glad to not see you in the top ten, anymore.

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

@sweetsssj - This is a very well written response and explanation! I understand the issues and difficulties that you are helping to address and are helping your friends and family - there is absolutely nothing wrong with that!
All the best!

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bitcointip (0) · 7 years ago

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fruityfinkamran (44) · 7 years ago

very impressive to read out your comment
good work! keep it up and started following you after reading your comment wow.
@sweetsssj

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charles1 (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

I never comment on such issue however I have to comment on this one. @walden leave @sweetsssj alone for goodness sake and go find real abusers ...ask Berniesanders to help you find if you can not do it. She adds great value here through her post which is the best in steemit (for travelling) if not true then name a better one. I have her on my steem voter not because I have much but because of her quality. She posts few times weekly and have right to upvote friends and family members even if she has a second account and so what? There are many abusers here that posts 8+ posts and many comments and upvotes their posts to trending pages (daily) closing the door for starters . @sweetsssj is valuable to steemit therefore do not chase her out with such public acusations ...good thing is that we that like and support her will keep on due to her quality contents and not through character killing which wont work. Pls if you are a detective, focus your enregy on real abusers and most of them are whales!!! I only wish all of us success and a blessed weekend. Pls stop this type of post, it will not good for the ecosysteml!!!

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legaravito (33) · 7 years ago

So true, we should concentrate our effords to créate quality wrinting and do it for the fun of it, that we get reward .. good but don´t loose focus …

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nang.myint.thwel (52) · 7 years ago

I admire your quality content posts , I love your kindness towards your family & friends. I Upvote your posts. I'm at your side. Carry on !

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zens (33) · 7 years ago

Support @sweetsssj. I think steemit is a place people who support each other, not fight against each other. Steemit is still a small seed in compare with other traditional social media. Let's us make steemit stronger and better, not to do the opposite.

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https://steemit.com/steemit/@calamus056/curation-rewards-explained-in-great-detail

freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

What is all the fuzz about last minute voting - I still don't get it and especially after reading this:

Where can I find anything about the pro's and con's of voting on day 6 - 11th hour - just before the post and rewards will become "inactive"?

Anyone?

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teknow (43) · 7 years ago

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stevenalexander (62) · 7 years ago

THIS IS ENOUGH.. I don't care about these accusations... There's always two sides of the story. I know @sweetsssj on a personal level. She IS not only incredibly kind and giving but who else responds to a thousand comments for their post?!?! She takes a full 24 hours to respond and connect with her audience. This alone says A LOT. Someone who only cares for themselves will NOT do this. LOOK AT HER FREAKING CONTENT! I was a minnow and reached out to her months ago and she gave me the time of day to have a full conversation with me about life, passions, success and I was shocked. Have you guys ever considered she's being helpful and supportive to these people sending her stuff? I mean jeez this sounds like an extreme case of "let's find someone to target because we should mess someones life up". I take this personally because i understand her values. She has worked incredibly hard to get what she has and in my opinion she deserves what she has and i'm willing to fight for her. She is a role model whether you think certain behaviors are sketchy or not. I will never judge someone until I know them personally. I've never had to pay for an upvote from anyone. Sweets has given me her love and support based on my value and friendship! instead of spreading hatred and trying to cause controversy why don't we get to know one another better. Make more friends. Be more accepting and understanding of someones situation. Instead of attacking and starting issues based on something you think you know...Try understanding them as a human instead.

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digitalfirehose (58) · 7 years ago

Worthy of discussion.

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https://steemit.com/aggrandizement/@felixxx/selfvote-thread#@felixxx/re-steevc-re-felixxx-selfvote-thread-20180213t091325999z

teamsteem (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

Before, there was an incentive to look for good material and vote it.
Self-voting was not the most profitable strategy.
That's why people are still looking for 'OC' and 'good content', but sooner or later they will realize, that selvoters will have more money a year down the road and will have more to say because:

Money talks.

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troglodactyl (58) · 7 years ago

Persistent last day upvotes like that are really shady. Add in the shared transfer memo and it looks pretty shameful. I've been downvoting these for a while but my stake alone isn't enough.

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kryptik (63) · 7 years ago

Yeah I mean you can’t exactly say it’s for visibility on day 6.

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago

I put a flag on it. Every little bit helps. Glad we are able to work towards the same end yet again @troglodactyl

If this wasn't something more subjective than the run-of-the-mill plagiarizers and typical scammers, I would say it would be great for SFRewards. I think I have another idea though. Would love to tell you more offline if you happened to get on steemit.chat or discord yet.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago

@ackza I'll take your words into consideration but I think one of the biggest problems facing Steem today is we have a shit ton of unexceptional content receiving exceptional rewards.

This, in and of itself, may deter shrewd investors and newcomers without too much capital to invest in the prevalent system of stake based manipulation of rewards. That is the name of the game these days. It's become less about sweat equity and more about stake especially with the rise of the bots.

I know I reached a point where I stopped investing as much into Steem when this became evident along with other issue such as the incentivization of self voting that tends to conflict with my ideals / principles.

I don't think I am the only one with this type of sentiment. A lot of people are frustrated.

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koto (51) · 7 years ago

Well said

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slothicorn (59) · 7 years ago

EXACTLY.

teknow (43) · 7 years ago (edited)

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healthsquared (66) · 7 years ago (edited)

Really struggling to believe all of this is targeted as @sweetsssj. You're targeting one of the best content creators on Steemit, who consistently creates some of the best posts I've seen on any platform, let alone Steemit.

She interacts heavily with the Steemit community as a whole, supporting content and other users. She has supported my #sixweekhealth challenge, unashamedly, to build the community and give back to the community, as she does with many.

I can't speak for all of the people mentioned in your post but I've met many of the account holders you post here. They are, categorically, not all the same person. They represent friends and family of @sweetsssj, who I've spent much time with personally. Just because transfers go to the same bittrex memo doesn't mean they are the same person. I've actually spoken to a couple of the people you name here and they admitted that they just wouldn't have the technical know how to deal with all of the digital currency transfers associated with working with Steemit.

These posts are trying to make @sweetsssj out to be some clandestine person who only uses Steemit only for personal profit. I've met her a few times and the very idea of this post to try and defame her seems so ridiculous because you could not meet a more humble and generous person.

These posts just kind of stink of jealousy and it's sad. I'd understand if @sweetsssj was just posting a few memes and music videos but she is posting the highest quality content you'll find here. You think you're serving the community by trying to police Steemit but in reality you're attacking the very content creators that make the site great.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

I didn't get that at all from the post. I thought it was a question of whether or not she is selling votes.
The question raised for me is should she be held to the same transparency standards as the bots. If she is acting as one.
I also think it is a worthy thing for the other investors to see where the reward pool is going.

This doesn't have to be all about her. It can be a discussion on the community and viability of the way the experiment is going.

I have bought and sold some votes and also upvoted my family. Nobody said she killed puppies.

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sweetsssj (76) · 7 years ago

Just so you know, I used to upvote people when they sent memos out of courtesy, but even doing so, I would manually go through each which is a lot more care than people give on auto-bots. I have since stopped this altogether and stuck to complete manual and yet people still send memos day in day out.

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https://steemit.com/art/@askmee/art-of-caricature-13-sweetsssj

askmee (59) · 7 years ago

A small gift for you @sweetsssj
Happy valentine Day

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mightyblueberry (55) · 7 years ago

I noticed it has got quite messy with people begging and some demanding you upvote their content. I find this behaviour quite rude. You shouldn't feel pressured to upvote anybody. Your upvotes are yours and yours alone, nobody has the right to tell you how to upvote.

I look forward to your next post. You are a Steemit champion.

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cryptotem (63) · 7 years ago

I agree.

@sweetsssj has definitely been a exemplary Steemit user in my perception and I wish a lot more people would be like her and really putting effort in their content + interaction with the community.

On the other hand, I have to say that upvoting friends and family for those amounts on a continuous basis is a bit too much for my taste. Of course, if you like a person behind the account because of your interactions with them on the platform or in real life, you 'extra' like them. The question is whether that should be with thousands of dollars a week (since SBD price is far above 1 USD now). I don't think so.

Next to that, that should not be the way of supporting your friends and family. Because not only is this a strange way to do it, it practically means the community as a whole is rewarded less because of this. That is not pretty. Knowing @sweetsssj a little bit from her posts, she sure understands that the general perception is that this upvoting behaviour is a bit extreme.

Apart from that, I do think that she doesn't have to be called out like this in such an extreme way as well. It probably only causes more whale battles on the platform until it is ruined completely.

@sweetsssj I get where you are coming from, but you must understand how this comes across to the community. I do hope that it does not demotivate you to keep on being an example for great content! :-)

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

exactly! @walden is just a jealous troll who contributes 0 to the steem blockchain but trolling and spamming youtube videos

@sweetsssj has done NOTHING but good for steem, Walden does NOTHING but nasty trolling just ask @uradick (had to make that account I believe just to deal with Walden?

remember, walden feeds on this attention and unfortunately like a Remorah fish he has parasitically attached himself to a bigger shark.

See walden would actually get SOME respect from me IF he had actually steempower but fuck hes been here since aug 2016 and he doesnt even have $500 worth of steempower? ALL he does is powerdown and produce trash

While @sweetsssj actually produces CONTENt that DRIVES people to COME to steem, without her content Steem might NOT even be WHERE IT IS TODAY Walden OWES that fw hundred dollars he even HAS to her! we ALL owe a LOT to her for KEEPING STEEMIT ALIVE during its DEATH spiral down to 7 cents!

Whatever tho, Communities will be here soon to protect us Investors and Power users who have invested lives into this blockchain, who are counting on this system, the Admins wont let a few people ruin the whole party for us

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago

@walden has done forensic research on the blockchain. @sweetsssj hasn't brought her stake in steem like most of us so it's normal that she get a higher level of scrutiny.

You are piling on ad-hominem attack all over way to much. I find you highly suspicious.

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sid9999 (52) · 7 years ago

Steemit is all about helping each don't fight with each other.... Steem is all about community building and motivating each other if anyone likes the article then they can show their love with a motivating comment and a upvote and if anybody does not like they can just say that where they are going wrong it's not right to create a big issue because I have read botb @sweetsssj and @transisto both of your articles you both have talent and you both have a lot of respect so just fighting with each other would affect your reputation........ So please be friends for me @sweetsssj and @transisto...... Lots of love to both of you wish all the best to both of you :)

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slothicorn (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Walden is an unstable person who verbally raped many women on steemit in the early days of steemit. He also doxxed many people, threatened and stalked a lot of women. Walden was responsible for running off a huge amount of women from the Steemit platform early on, and everything he has done has been through violence, threat and abuse. Please educate yourself. Aligning with an unstable mind is not looking pretty right now.

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago

verbally raped

? How is that a thing.

stalked a lot of women

Wow, how about taking the content for what it is?

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

Forensic research LOL This isnt CSI Miami bro, foreskin research maybe bro no No haha he went and took some screenshots of her wallet history and made accusations, the end

@transisto you're the suspicious one, I show my face, where is your face?
im the public one who actually meets people in real life. I do nothing suspicious and you're just trolling whatever man

your the suspicious one @whatsup already exposed you so did sweetsssj with plenty of screenshots but I honestly think you have a right to upvote your comments, its your stake, and its also sweetsssj's stake

and

@sweetsssj hasn't brought her stake in steem like most of us so it's normal that she get a higher level of scrutiny.

NO she does not deserve scrutiny and she HAS bought steempower and what do you mean "Like the rest of us" that is such a logical fallacy riught there... what the hell... and I EARNED my stake man i earned it with a LOt of upvotes from WAY more peopel than MOST get my upvotes are SPREAD out from MANy accounts MANy REAL people and so are sweetsssj's dont be jelous of her great content, the stemians have spoken and they are the judge not you, they decide that they like her content and that it is GOOD and so she gets her steempower , youre just hating on the entire steem system it seems

thats 100% jealousy you reveal your true colors when you say that... she has bought steempower by the way... and just because she has EARNED her steempower doesnt mean she gets any different scrutiny... you also get paid plenty in steempower and SBD JUST like everyone else, she gets the same treatment as any other steemian. YOU deserve more scrutiny from what i have heard. but why do you want to start puttng your nose in strangers business? Its not your life, leave other peopel alone, you are not an authority here, you just hold steempower, its not your business to go around accusing people of vague quasi crimes and demanding they prove their innocence, youd be hurting steem if you do that.

Are you reallu that jelous of my followers?

I have about 6000 and you still have 5000, and youve been here a year longer than me almost, so you get suspicious because I am more successful than you?

lol jk whatever i honestly get sick dealing with drama like this its a huge distraction from important business we could all be doing, makes us all look petty , letting a non contributing troll user known abuser and harasser to just target random whales like this and bring the down like a witchhut

You guys get so triggered when we call you out, you act like youre just following some sort of rational logical plan and play dumb... just shameful

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miqdad (36) · 7 years ago

ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

maybe if you keep making memes like this you can actually get some upvotes too. Ill help you get started with an upvote from myself

this is one of the secrets t o steemit, Memes ar actually vital and the comment upvotes for them are very well deserved

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miqdad (36) · 7 years ago

ackza (72) · 7 years ago

Daaaaam that one worked really good

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

@healthsquared - Very well said, sir!
I came across your post and then lost track of you. I now just followed you.
You are the one who led me to @sweetsssj - so, she can thank you sir for my following her and my support of her presence here and anywhere else - if opportunities arise.
All the best!

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br0 (53) · 7 years ago

Counted as a spherical kiss on the whale ass

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brettcalloway (57) · 7 years ago

I don't see anything wrong with late votes. You have a time period to allocate you votes and where you allocate them makes a difference in your return. Don't waste voting power chit chatting throughout the day. You may get involved in a trending post later and your power would be better spent there in the long run. So no need to try and predict the future value of something if you have some time to sit on it. I do understand the there could be a case of waiting to vote could burry a few poor decisions. But, no one is perfect and we just need to encourage real activity on the site. I give props to anyone who is attracting in money and people to Steemit.com. I did love the shakedown though! That's what blockchain is all about!!! Play nice!! :-)

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grey580 (61) · 7 years ago

Ladies and Gentlemen.

I'm seeing multiple infractions.

The topic at hand isn't about if Walden is a troll. It's about his findings.

Do you agree that the voting practices are shady, questionable, or you're fine with it based upon the data provided?

Let's not devolve into name calling please.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

nooo sorry the topic os now walden being a troll, you cant just define the topic, peopel ae going to talk about the issue at hand and that is walden and his "forensic CSI report complete with fuckin fingerprinst and DNA testing!

Seriously what a joke man he took some screenshots of her wallet, should we go take some screenshots of all your wallet transactions and start making up stories about it? Seriously man walden pointed out NOTHING but whats ALREADY visible in the wallet! he just MADE UP A STORY PERIOD NO EVIDENCE to support ANy claim and he is PRESUPOSING making readers ASSUME she is GUILTY of an ACCOUNT farm

Bro stop defending walden and his bullshit but nice meme i will upvote for your effort cuz it was funny i loled

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grey580 (61) · 7 years ago

Sure you could do that. But I'm not a whale. What I'm making is loose change in comparison.

Going by the comments I'm seeing there are several people that don't agree with what sssj is doing. And have been actively downvoting. Maybe they are on to something?

And personally I don't care what sssj does. As long as she's not abusing the platform. And I feel that this bleeds into a larger discussion. It's her money. Why can't she do whatever she wants with it?

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stabilowl (63) · 7 years ago

People are entitled to vote for whoever they want, even if they are whales. I am sure if you do a stats on anyone 60% would be to the same accounts. This is call social networking. This is want following is! You follow and vote the same person because you like their work.
If you go on the trending page I am sure you will realise that @sweetssj is one of the few ones who actually make quality content. Why don't you, as she's said, take on someone who is actually abusing and self vote multiple posts that are just crap? I am sure you can find many out there.

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

"Why don't you, as she's said, take on someone who is actually abusing and self vote multiple posts that are just crap? I am sure you can find many out there." - EXACTLY!
This is selective persecution at best and stalking or trolling possible - if one subscribes to circumstantial evidence.

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kenanqhd (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

Sweetsssj was one of the first people I saw on Steemit that impressed me with her content. I have upvoted her posts before and I don't think anyone can deny that her posts are of super high caliber. I have learned a lot from her and apply similar skills in my own blog posts.

When I started reading about this drama, I'm not gonna lie: I felt a little worried. I know she brings high quality content to the platform, but being a whale, it was possible that she could be gaming the system. Her explanations about China being tough on crypto is right. China shut down crypto exchanges and if I was a whale, I would help out close family and friends as well. She has the freedom to choose who she wants to upvote.

I'm not sure whether sweetsssj is telling the truth or not (I am leaning towards believing she is), but regardless, it is important for the community and developers to find ways to stop nefarious people from doing something similar to exploit the reward pool.

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Well, this was a post that was bound to happen sooner or later - anyone paying attention to the big interactions on Steem Reports has know about some of this for a while now. As far as I can see, this situation would have almost entirely been alleviated by not voting for these articles on the 6th day. As people are so fond of telling me when it suits them, we can do whatever we like with our votes - and this includes @sweetsssj.

I suspected that @sweetsssj might have had her reasons - and the problems with crypto in China occurred to me too. But no matter how good her reasons are, this has to be balanced against what is good for the platform.

That said, I have no idea what the solution is - might need to be here for longer than a month to come up with that .

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

nope you can vote for your own articles or anyones in the 6th day the 1st day there is no rule about that or else you would NOT be allowed to VOTE on the 6th day....this is a proof of stake blockchain, that is her property not yours, youre like trying to tell a homeowner how they can make money with their home like your telling them they should not be renting out a basement because its shadey and hides the fact that your making money....

But I upvoted you 100% because you seemed polite enough and respectful about the situation, just wantd to point out the common misconception you had about 6 day voting, its a lie that its somehow shadey to vote on the 67th day, if it was wrong they would have disabled 6th day voting in the code, see what I mean? the whole thing about the visibility is an invalid concept its an assumption a very loose one, its just a rumor a meme people spread like a virus from brain to brain until people like me spray the colloidal silver of truth INFOWARS life will also be on steem as a smart media token soon by teh way

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the vote and reasonable response. As a newcomer, I worry about saying the wrong thing.

One point I'd like to make is to separate the law/code from ethics a little. We should be able to discuss that things are right or wrong in a way that's independent of the rules.

I don't want a platform (or a legal system) that has rules to dictate every moral choice I might make - just the opposite (because that sounds like it would suck, really badly). But that doesn't mean we can't have well-reasoned opinions and discussions on what counts as a more or less ethical course of action.

This is a complicated situation, one that doesn't reduce neatly to one particular issue once you consider the details.

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generation.easy (65) · 7 years ago

@sweetsssj is @berniesanders for the final twist...

Lol, actually that wouldn't surprise me anymore. Anything is possible around here

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago

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bi5h0p (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

Upvoted and Resteemed. I hate seeing crap like this on SteemIt. Seeing people talk about how they're "spreading the love" on SteemIt, and how they're here to "help" people by creating good content... it makes me sick to see them hiding the fact that they're massively upvoting themselves, in an effort to look more virtuous than they actually are. Me, I probably split my votes 50/50 between myself and other people, and don't try to hide it - because there's no reason to. Self-interest is normal. Trying to hide it, isn't.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

Me, I probably split my votes 50/50 between myself and other people, and don't try to hide it - because there's no reason to. Self-interest is normal. Trying to hide it, isn't.

She never tried to hide shit, what teh fuck ma

Its like you just accept that walden is some sort of blockchain invstigator> hes a wannabe "blockchain foresncis technician" its pathetic man, come on look deeper, walden is a known troll who finds female whales and just

look at his recent blog posts, hes talking about being in love with some preteen girl, showing picures of her really creepy like, talking about her personal life, hes just the worst person to be believing when it comes to these spun up[ stories

You have a very obvious tone of jealousy in your post

Sweetsssj is no "hiding upvtes" no one needs to hid upvotes, dude she makes enough money on curationa nd post rewards she is skilled on steemit and PLUS you CANNOT CHEAT on steemit CODE IS LAW

If you dont like her, buy some steempower and actually waste money flaging her and waste all your money go ahead, talk bad about someone who has been here since the beginning , who has been ghere creating content and where were you?

Why dont you ave any steempower if youve been here since last year? Why is your follower to following ratio so close to 1? 2000+ followers and you barely have any posts? Whats up with your account just a bunch of comment upvotes? not even many of those tho, so you see? Nothing is WRONg with your account but the NERVE to acuse this whale of doing somthing wrng JUST because sghe makes MORE MONEY than YOURE USED TO is SO pathetic man COME On arent uyou a fuckin capitalist?!?!

This is severe crab bucket mentality with a hit of class warfare and socialistic nonesense being represented in this thread, @walden talked about moving to venezula bragged about it ad how hes getting a government teaching job in a villag with the HIGHEST standard of living oh yeah u dont get that withoyut being somehow alligned with the communist govrnment i mean come on, we wanna support someone like walden who wants to go live in venezuela supporting their regiem working for the communists??

LEARN whats going on here man, we have Walden basicaly a veenzuelan communist and we have sweetsssj, a capitalist in a communist nation who is trying to bring blockchain and decentralization and CENCROSHIP RESISTANCE first amendment style RIGHTS to CHINA dude shes taking on a HUGE risk and doing it NOT just for herself, she cant really even cash out her crypto th ay WE can just do it, its NOT just regular money like in europe or USA, its VERY dangerous to get caught with it right now, and w are being such assholes doing this to someone currently living in a communist country risking a lot to spread something like steemit in china, which can HELP teh chinese people have a VOICE and resist censorship, VERY dangerous IDEOLOGICAL struggle here

Its bigger than just walden trying to make sweetsssj look like shes hiding something by taking a screenshot of her bittrex memos which proves absolutely nohing, he is just spinning up this story about hr for attention.

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bi5h0p (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

Obviously, my casual review of the situation led to my first comment being "uninformed." She makes a lot of high quality posts. It's just that lots of the shady voting I've seen go down here in the past usually happens at the last minute - when people are trying to rape the rewards pool. And, having several accounts use the same memo is out of the ordinary. However, her explanation makes sense - when I stop to consider it. A reasonable person would agree that this post, on its' surface, does point out some things that are probably & usually worth taking a look at. It was wrong of me to cast aspersions before looking at things more closely. Just to be fair, to me, I don't always just talk out of my @$$. I did try to warn people off of BitConnect several months ago: (https://steemit.com/steemcleaners/@bi5h0p/craig-grant-and-trevonjb-exposed-for-scamming)

As for me, who wouldn't be slightly jealous of her fabulous success? It makes a cynical person like me prone to suspect it can't be all on the up & up. That's the price of being a skeptic, which I'm not going to apologize for. @ackza, you do make a lot of assumptions about things - such as how her "cause" is more noble than mine, because she's a cute little Chineese girl fighting communism. Damn! Okay, you got me there - I mean, I'm not Batman, fighting crime, or anything like that. Hmmm... next topic...?

I think SteemIt & Steem is great. If you knew anything about me, or followed any of my posts, you'd see that I'm a Silver Stacker. I have much less faith in the "digital air" we call cryptocurrency and much more faith in the weighty stack of physical Silver that I keep in my safe at home. For me, electric cryptos are an excellent tool to be used for stacking up real world assets. The thing is, SteemIt and cryptos are so awesome because they have enough room to be many different things to many different people. For me, Steem is a great savings account. At least, it pays me more interest on my money than any bank is willing to pay me. And, if I give away 1/2 of my upvotes... certainly you can't call anyone who gives away 1/2 of the profits on their interest a "scrooge" type of character, unless you're insane (which, I am). ;)

As for Walden, I really don't know or follow the guy very much. You make some interesting... talking points about him, which I may or may not get around to looking at. Right now, I'm waiting for my BCH investment to go on a tear, and I'm watching that which much greater interest than the drama that goes on around here. If it makes you feel better, I'll say you're right about everything and go on my merry way. Thanks and have a good day!

kryptik (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

I have a feeling this is going to be a big rabbit hole.

Good shit man.

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago

Go Go Gadget Whale Flags! 🚩🐋

I'm a minnow but don't give a damn. It's time for us all to work together. We gotta stop this shit.

ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

yup we dont need no drama nahhhh

man you realize this is all just entertainment to whales who are just bored

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generation.easy (65) · 7 years ago

Go Get 'Em Tiger!

spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

While your stats are 'interesting' they simply don't matter in the grand scheme of things, beyond awareness.

For me, awareness earns you a huge tip! of gratitude. I am glad that the person you called out in this post refuted any improprieties. This, too is a matter of conscience. If a person isn't breaking the Steemit rules, and has the chutzpah to play the Steemit game to the hilt, who are we to hate on them?

Thanks for this post, as it inspired the accuser to share another dimension of the wacky world of upvoting.

Best regards!

Peace.

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

Very well said!

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spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago

✌!

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slothicorn (59) · 7 years ago

Focus on real abuse and leave sweetsssj alone. Your claims are absurd, and it is obvious you know nothing about how it is in China right now.

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bitgeek (62) · 7 years ago

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

Controversy and negative attacks sells!

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

wow, I am not even dust or newbie - although this is only my 4th day here.
BTW, why is @walden not going after @haejin?

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izge (51) · 7 years ago

Waooooooowwww, this is beautiful, is the picture real. Mennnnnnnnn, cool.

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guiltyparties (70) · 7 years ago (edited)

@ned this is what happens when you mean well but end up falling into a honeytrap run by scammers
¯_(ツ)_/¯

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

come on man, sweetsssj is no scammer

dont confuse the fact that oe whale upvoted this into trending for it being true! walden just carefully crafted a lie about her wallet screenshots! By the way thank you for supporting team Ghana, i work with them on discord meetings everyday and its about to get really real man like we will have our own office complex and a few stores of our own and some serious SBD to Fiat local exchange website that will use their local telephone text money system called MTN like they are setup for it to work so easily the students at the local tech univ are working on the local steem/SBD to fiat exchange they see how they can make good money posting developer style posts about stuff like that! Man Steem is gonna be $100 a token this year or at least by 2020

i can see steem at $2000 BECAUSE I believ we CAn be as succeful as Facebook which is a 500 billion dollar marketcap if we got steem there wed get to well 1 bilion marketcap now so 500 times wht steem is now like $4 so thats $2000 yup see thats how i go that number so if steem gets as big as facebook n marketcap , steem will be around $2000, maybe less because they will have created more tokens in a yer or two but if we get thatbig in the next few years or even in 5 to 10 years steem coudl still get to $1000 easily .....

steem at around $10,000 could be real i seriously believe this

Bitcoin shows us that these prices are possible with a 21 million hardcap supply token .... so if we take steem round 300 million tokens soon, and we say steem supply is around 14 times more than bitcoin, and ignoring how much steempower is locked up and not liquid, lets just say if steem had same marketcap as bitcoin the price per steem would be same as bitcoin but divided by 14 so $10,000 bitcoin would be around $714 Steem if Steem marketcap was same as bitcoin ... So if Steem can get to bitcoins nearly 200 billion marketcap we wont hve steem teh same price as bitcoin... but we would still have a good time

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guiltyparties (70) · 7 years ago

Let's chat on Discord later today or whenever you're on.

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botefarm (67) · 7 years ago

The link Pls

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

Wonderful, now can we get some attention on the 10 accounts that give ~25% of the reward pool to their favorites daily?

I get that it is their stake, but they are cutting their own throats along with ours.

ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

do u want everyone to get an equql share of the reward pool liek communism/ You relized by holding steempower they sacrificed a huge chance to make millions off Ethereum or Bitcoin? She held a lot of SP through a long time ... sacrificed her chance to make a LOT more completely ditching steempower so SHE is the only reason your STEEM is worth ANYTHING without HER and the WHALES having an INCENTIVE to actually HOLD steem there is NO steem for YOU

Thisis not communism where we all get an equal amount of steem, yes those big amounts of steem and SBD they get for those big upvotes yeah its how steem works! yes they get a LOT more than the poor people! thats how it works! if u want to make money like the top steemians get some steempower! people complain without realizing that these steemians have a right to make money! Look at fyrstikken he bought up 80,000 in steem got 700,000 steempower cuz it was fuckin 7 cents! if it wasnt for him it coudla ropped who knows how low!

Sweetssj was one of the only ones producuing content that made peopel come BACK to steem and wanna actualy participate and comment! Its JUST AS IMPORTANT as the Money we need BOTH Value AND content it CANT work without eac OTHER its a Social Media BLOGCHAIN nd we HAVE to allow the big whales to get teh MOST rewards or theyll go ELSEWHERE and Steem price will SUFFER its like very few people will RISK their money in such a fragile DREAM of a blockchain early on!

EVEN NOW its not godo enough for MOST peopel to investin! if it were wed see $100 steem y now! that Will come but thers a LOT of work to do! and its NOT garunteed! it could get sidetracked people could stifle it, people might move to EOS's competitor to steem and it might be much better who the fuck knows, do we wanna risk all that? do we wanna risk losing a competitive edge by engaging in attitudes like the Crab Bucket attitude that is hostile towards rich people with money to invest ???
It does NOT take away from YOU when someone ELSE makes money in the reward pool! If you cant get the upvotes and if YOU arent making as much as them dont worry about it, its not a zero sum game, you can ALL make money, its all math based, if you have the steempower you get to make the upvotes end of story. Its like people just wat to act like whales are somehow stealing from the system they themselves are invested in and apart of, without them, the dolphins and minnows dont get ANYTHING for their steem!

yousufpatan (8) · 7 years ago

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

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rahulsaini (57) · 7 years ago

Nice analysis, i appreciate. This point must be discussed. Thanks for sharing your analysis. It will help the comunity to get clean if there something wrong happening.

whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

resteemed for visibility and discussion.

ackza (72) · 7 years ago

wow disappoint in you for assisting in this slanderous bullshit lie of @walden the troll that everyone KNOWS feeds on attention and does NOTHING but SPAM the blockchain and POWER DOWN like the LEECH that he is

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

Hey Ackza, Calm down. It is worthy of a discussion. People have financial decisions to make.

inertia (73) · 7 years ago

Since you're using a legal argument, would you care to highlight what specific statement is slanderous?

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

Gladly

account-content-farm

By putting that in the title, it is presuming she is doing some nefarious steem farming with fake accounts, similar to someone Walden correctly pointed out dollarconception, who obviously did have a fke comment bot farm, but ii feel like he is conflating that case with sweetsssj, she does not need any fake comments, look at her comments they are real, if she gets bots that is not her fault we all get bots from time to time, she wouldnt waste her time with something like that

we all know she is succesful nd dosnt need any fake accounts OR the need to cheat, she makes ENOUGH money she does NOT have ANY incentive to do any sort of "cheating" like walden is obviously implying

This is not a legal court its social media and I dont have to explain myself when I state the fact that Walden is the one here Implying Sweetsssj is doing something wrong

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inertia (73) · 7 years ago

See that little thing at the end of the title? It's called a question mark. It indicates that the previous statement is a question.

The question mark [?] (also known as an interrogation point, query, or eroteme in journalism) is punctuation that indicates an interrogative clause or phrase in many languages. The question mark can also be used as a meta-sign to signal uncertainty regarding what precedes it.

Source: wikipedia

On the other hand ...

... slander, under common law, is used to constitute defamation, a claim that must generally be false and must have been made to someone other than the person defamed. Some common law jurisdictions also distinguish between spoken defamation, called slander, and defamation in other media such as printed words or images, called libel.

Source: wikipedia

My point is: an interrogative clause is not a claim. Therefore, it cannot be slanderous.

ackza (72) · 7 years ago

This is social media not the court room and walden knew exactly w hat he was doing whe he made a CLAIM that she is running a 13 account content farm, it implies nefarious activities, thats all, im not arguing against your facts, im just talking about reality here on social media and the many social metrics that we cannot measure yet unfortunately , there were many REAL abuses walden could have reported on but he chose to attack one of the most popular steeians who is also very succesful in a very jelous move, its about the space in betwe the notes, look at how he just all of the sudden goes from posting youtube links of songs that arent his, reposting lame psts, to just this attack on sweetsssj, as if he is some steemit expert in abuse, which he is not, he does not contribute to the steemian society, he is just gasping for attention falsifying this story making all these assumptions and its just full of logical fallacies, he is implying that she is stealing from the reward pool somehow which you remind us is an invalid concept

Look at the comments, this post has lead many to believe she IS doing something wrong... you see how its slanderish? is that better? hah i agree it was incorrect use of teh word

but can it be slanderish? How about libel can throw t hat one out?

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ddatica (39) · 7 years ago

Dear @walden , if I may, let me give you an advice: Start your post by stating that she/they have moved hundreds of dollars out of Steem and into their own accounts. Most of the audience gets lost by complex arguments and respond positively to emotional engagements, like "This has gone far enough" or "freedom from oppressive regimes". So, start by the punchline! Make it clear that you have hard evidence that this account is sapping all of us out of hundreds of thousands of dollars!

And once again, thank you

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mo3ad18 (35) · 7 years ago

Amazing participant Glorious thank you for sharing

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myomyokhat (40) · 7 years ago

woooooww!

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elkiramtour (40) · 7 years ago

Good job...great.I like it

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boyhaqi97 (43) · 7 years ago

nice

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susanli3769 (74) · 7 years ago

1- @sweetssj is a high profile in Steemit. No wonder people likes to pick on her to get noticed or whatever other reasons behind it.
2- it’s ok to lay out the fact. But taking personal assumption based on partial or incomplete info and start to criticize others may not seem to be fair.
3- everybody has their preference in upvoting, deciding whom to follow, and when to upvote. As long as it doesn’t break the rule, nobody else can judge.

High profile people has higher responsibilities in this community, what she has contributed to the society is there for us to see. She inspires many people in joining the community and hanging in there with good content. She showcases a good example for many of us to look up to. We all wish that we can reach her level someday.
Good discussion and dialogue is always welcomed, but not finger point or nonsense. Good conversation sparks better ideas and discipline.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

She gets paid for it.. its not her own post.. Its a group working together and making big bucks paying her..

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jacobts (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Intelligent Intelligence Officer Walden.

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breathewind (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

Everyone has their own right to decide how to use their SP.
It is better to take care of yourself rather than other's life.

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spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago

Love it! LOL!!!! Excellent.

Peace.

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fanso (47) · 7 years ago

@walden Hi， Can I translate your essay into Chinese? I think someone who in CN can answer or survey more information about this issue

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walden (65) · 7 years ago

yes, you can.

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fanso (47) · 7 years ago

Thanks， if we get more information，I will send it to you. have a good day

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farazali1850 (37) · 7 years ago

Very stylash dear

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kani77 (35) · 7 years ago

please voteback..
thanx

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

oh man your just asking for trouble

a lot of anger is gonna come focused down on you lol id edit your comment if were you lol ur rep is already 33 ouch

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

There should be a shrink - expand option for lengthy posts and comments ...

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

Controversy certainly sells! However, @walden, you have done no service to anyone except to enrich your self by accusing @sweetsssj of something that is not illegal - what rule(s) or law(s) did @sweetsssj break?

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

After reading through a lot of comments here, and after I searched through the FAQ - I still do not see what rule(s) or guideline(s) did @sweetsssj violate?
What is wrong with what @sweetsssj has done? Before making such a big deal about @sweetsssj and her activities here, I think it is important to cite whatever that she is accused of violating.
I have found none.
Case dismissed!

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walden (65) · 7 years ago

You are delusional

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organduo (72) · 7 years ago

The more value you create for others on Steemit or anywhere else the more value will come back to you.

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

Even if people switch to encrypted memos, the encrypted memo will be the same, so the destination is still trackable (although encrypted).

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Makuton, Hashirama Senj

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charles1 (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

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kennyroy (63) · 7 years ago

@walden, I don't see wrong in what you said and to @digitalfirehose. Both of you have point of view. I don't want any trouble but what I see and observe, both of you is right against @sweetsssj. And @sweetsssj also have her own point of view. But she must use the delegation to her to the person who have good article or to the person with a good view in steemit. Or she can help other doing charity work.

Its my opinion nothing more... I am avoiding trouble because I am nothing compare to the others.

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sneaky-ninja (59) · 7 years ago

Sneaky Ninja Attack! You have been defended with a 16.06% vote... I was summoned by @transisto! I have done their bidding and now I will vanish...Whoosh

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sid9999 (52) · 7 years ago

@walden this is the thing that hurts many great content writers and really when I was new to steem I also got hurt seeing some people just do fake things or just write nothing imp but earn a lot so there should be a solution for this problem if we have to make steemit best and non partial..... Thanks a lot for making article on such a sensitive topic @walden

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fikri129056 (25) · 7 years ago

Amazing picture

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aidilmuhammad (50) · 7 years ago

Good

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dhirupadhyay (44) · 7 years ago

i got a goose bumps watching this @walden

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edwardfahlevi (46) · 7 years ago

Nice

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edwardfahlevi (46) · 7 years ago

Good

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emjoe (68) · 7 years ago

@nairadaddy said during my meetup:

We ALL came for the money but we will stay for the community.

I am really confused why I stumbled on this post during my Versatility Quest.

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reddust (71) · 7 years ago

Maybe there should be a way to stop people who have been given delegation from self voting, especially if delegation was given to help newbies/minnows.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

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reddust (71) · 7 years ago (edited)

Just the popularity gained from having such a large delegation would pay for all the work of curation, no need for up votes :P I like you, you are funny...I need to laugh more often.

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inah (33) · 7 years ago

Good job

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steemthinkcom (53) · 7 years ago

Although I am just a newcomer, I support your just behavior.

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izge (51) · 7 years ago

No wonder sweetjess was just up and down piling up SBD and steem power. You are doing a good job. God bless you.

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padilrijal100297 (25) · 7 years ago

haii upvote punya ane ya gan

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arcange (73) · 7 years ago

Congratulations @walden!
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steemitv (34) · 7 years ago

hallo, introduce my name ayudia, i am a new comer of fi steemit, please cooperate him

thank you

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glenlivet (24) · 7 years ago

Where do i sign up?

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lucky1001 (43) · 7 years ago

@walden postingan anda bagus dan menarik sekali

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aldentan (67) · 7 years ago

lol @walden you really need to get out of your mom's basement get a life.

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anritco (69) · 7 years ago

Honestamente querido, que golazo tener muchachada como vos analizando lo que algunos pelotudos como esta mina hacen por aca. Y te hablo en la jerga para que ningun boludo entienda poniendo palabritas en el traductor.

Se agradece, viejo, capo @walden

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walden (65) · 7 years ago

Hola Nicolas, estaba viendo tu portfolio y me gustaria usar tus ilustraciones en mis posts. Como me contacto con vos? en que chat estas?

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digitalfirehose (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

Just wanted to add, after reading the comments...

Nice paper trail you put together here. It's like Steemit forensics.

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angelica-marcano (33) · 7 years ago

So beautifull... i love your post my friends... Excellent

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wahyuddin (29) · 7 years ago

please follow

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glowbeauty (54) · 7 years ago

I even thought she was a doll at first, placed in the travelpics... 😳

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

she is a fake.. there is a group working together and pay her..

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teenovision (52) · 7 years ago

Hi,
Nice to read about you and you posts and views. I am into steemit from august 2017, I am interested in photography and I am also into crypto trading and investing,I have followed you so you can also follow me. Let us all join hand and work with one common objective to make steemit reach to great height.
Best Of luck
Teenovision

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victory622 (66) · 7 years ago

There is one Chinese common saying : 吃饱了撑的
Without any doubt, families and friends always come first...

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See you
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@mawardisteemit/introduceyourself-job-or-parent-part-3

mawardisteemit (30) · 7 years ago

Hello
Iam Mawardi From Indonesia
Iam new steemit user, I need your help in increasing my steemit

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

SHE IS A SCAM, I FEEL SOMEONE PAYS HER AND IS MAKING BIG BUCKS USING HER.. ITS REALLY FISHY.. LOOK AT ANY OF HER POST.. IV BEEN TALKING ABOUT SUCH ISSUES ON MANY POSTS.. THERE ARE MANY RAPING REWARD POOL, AND ONLY SOME ARE BLAMED.. ALSO WE NEED TO REMOVE THE TRENDING/HOT PAGE FOR GIVING EVERYONE A FAIR CHANCE. A POST WITH JUST A DINNER/LUNCH PIC GET 100Z ???

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mafi001 (43) · 7 years ago

i know how hard to this!

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

It is her VOTE, she can use it however she sees fit. You have not shown one thing that she is doing wrong. Only showing us how she Votes and who she votes for, and she responded very well and intelligently to your post. Your post is nothing but mainstream media innuendo and speculation, and accusing her of wrongdoing with out coming out right and using that word. Do you have a spouse on steemit? If you did would you both have your own cashing out account, (I do not know how crypto works), do you vote on any of your family member accounts? Do you upvote any of your post. Do you on a regular basis vote for the same group of people? Or are you just jealous because of the number of votes and comments she gets? At the end of the day, it is her Vote, and it is her choice on how she Votes not yours nor anyone else's.

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amitbepari (31) · 7 years ago

Is anything I'm stating false? in my case

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aleqssteemiter (59) · 7 years ago

Hello, Guys please follow me and i upvote your post

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Your Reputation Could be a Tasty Snack with the Wrong Comment!

spaminator (68) · 7 years ago

Leaving comments asking for votes, follows, or other self promotional messages could be seen as spam.

Thank You! ⚜

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wiralhokseumawe (60) · 7 years ago

Culture from chines
stemeet has brought us to share different history, culture, traditions and environment , every steemit person has been worldwide in our minds to share. We each have different friends and family to know and share experiences. Different from different traditions. always looking from eye to eye. About what we do not see for an opportunity. I am also grateful for what has been built in Steemit for all of us. Opportunity to share what we love and learn new things and find interesting people. I hope here a lot of friends Greetings steemian all my new guidance

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levitation (44) · 7 years ago

This post has received a 13.10 % upvote, thanks to: @transisto.

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adriatik (51) · 7 years ago

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pushup (51) · 7 years ago

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yousufpatan (8) · 7 years ago

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upmewhale (65) · 7 years ago

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

good work Sector Bullseye

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pathtosuccess (51) · 7 years ago

certainly has @mrbabblemouth worked up... guess he has the hots for her

ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

It isn't lies, it is on the blockchain. It doesn't even say anything negative. It asks the question if she is selling votes. Calm down and let's talk about it.

De-escalate.

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

He called it an "account content farm" and the comments are clearly shpowing he has accused her of fraud, without any evidence

he is just showing a bunch of accounts, and bittrex memos, it proves Nothing, any money she makes on steem is hers, period, I feel like these people are really just whining about @haejin and are mixing her up

Seriously its 100% jealousy.. she did nothing wrong and this is slanderous and wrong and to upvote it shows that you support false accusations, from a known troll, and its not a good precedent to set, walden should not be rewarded for doing this bullshit fake research, its not research, anyone could come up with a bunch of lies, I could start systematically going through all the people telling walden to stop abusing them , showing all the evidence that walden is attacking people trolling people HARRASINg people, yes harrasing them, i think people wont like someone like that, nope

why are we rewarding the troll that just harrases people?

@uradick was right to flag walden, i WISH i hadnt asked him to stop flagging walden, I thought he could have a chance but I find all he is doing now is making up lies and my 6000 followers will find out about @walden and his lies so that @sweetsssj isnt wrongly accused like this of doing something bad.

All this does is make her grow in followers by the way I hope you all know that.

And its not ok whatsup, you know what this is, you know this is a witchhunt,.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

I just see it as a discussion on a topic I have mixed feelings about and would like to hear other opinions. I consider it an opportunity for discussion.

I admit I have felt snarky about her account, but the issue is bigger than that for me. It is if everyone just uses their stake to enrich their own concerns, why don't we just program the blockchain to just give us all our share of the stake, and quit with the games.

ackza (72) · 7 years ago

well yeah it is proof of stake

I have wanted an upvote button on peoples names so you can just give upvotes to someone even if they havent made a post of a comment

we have to realize communities wil make a BIG difference, imagine multipe reward pools and SMT reward pools

also EOS, EOS will show steemit another path we can take, @dan will create a whole new system, we cannot see competition as anything but beautiful here or we are kidding ourselves, Dan will show us another great system and steem may be able to take note

Steem has big problems I wish we would address instead of this, we are wasting our time here but sure maybe the discussions we get to are what is important sure but not at her expense like this! we can have discussions without this sort of witchhunt full of doublestandards that just make everyone look bad

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pathtosuccess (51) · 7 years ago

actually there is lots of evidence presented. What @walden has done is presented it and asked if it's true. She can claim that it is family and friends she's supporting .. we have no proof either way.

If she was really such a great supporter of the community those votes would be so spread out that those accounts wouldn't have been so readily identified. She's sending a good chunk of her voting power to a group she claims are family and friends. Giving her the benefit of the doubt.. to a point.. that is supporting family and friends. Not the community.

As for your claims of her single handedly helping Steem to survive. What a crock. I know of many people who see the rewards she gets for what amounts to pro forma content while others who write creative original content get so much less and they hesitate or just refuse to continue. So that is not supporting the community either.

ackza (72) · 7 years ago

She's sending a good chunk of her voting power to a group she claims are family and friends.

Holy no citation batman, do you mind giving some sort of evidence to this realy really big claim before you talk about it like its common knowldge?

I know for a fact that she upvotes a lot of people more so than herself and she is overall upvoting MUCH more other people than just herself, its pretty crazy to just flip reality like his, why would one of the most popular succesful steemian be guilty of this? you think steemit just lets bad people succeed like that? Uh no steemit has rules and ettiquite and shes not breaking any and she doesnt actually have to prove anything to anyone, she doesnt ow any of you anything, you all donot represent the majority of steem blockchain users, she has over 10,000 followers, and we only have under 800,000 users, do you see how she has over multiple percent of the entire blockchain account follwing her? You think they would if she was just somehow cheating everyone in any way?!?!?!

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mrblu (62) · 7 years ago (edited)

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boomerang (56) · 7 years ago

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luckyvotes (38) · 7 years ago

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ackza (72) · 7 years ago

transisto is literally trying to hide his own use of upvote bots by flagging the automatic comments that they post on this blog post hah

hah what teh fuck, loll i seriously have no problem i just think it LOOKS funny and weird haha liek why??? why do that?? it is fine but it just looks so bad! why try to HIDE them , it just looks so bad hah you cant delete the comments haha they are gonna show up and peopel are gonna click them wondering what someone said to deserve a flag and people will just see that h transisto bought a bunch of upvotes... and flagged al the comments from the upvote bots he used?? is he seriously trying to hide them or something??? ahahah what??? lol so funny man i really was just trying to not say anything more and move on i swear...and i see this and i'm like wtf this whole post is about accusing @sweetsssj of "hiding" or "obfuscating" something allegedly, and now i see this? its perfect,

the minnows will be angry when they see how any whale can just use their steem to just buy upvotes to get whatevr they want to the top of steemit instead of letting the will of the crowd to actually have a chance hahha honestly anyone can appeal to that same collectivsim but i defend whales ability to do what they want!

I am fine with the use of upvote bots but a lot of other people arent, but why insite their ignorant view of steem, so many noobs think the reward pool should be divided up between all users equally it feels like lol they act like the reward pool is somehow seperate from the steempower that creates it and its so weird its like its not the new users reward pool they feel entitled to it and i just hate sein those ignorant comments coming out here the worst of steemit coming out it feels like thts why i get agry

so its like we can sit there all day and cal each other out for little behavior idosyncracies and its just a waste of time i believe thats all

I respect your use of the bots just trying to make content to entertain people at this point I guess

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

I'd assume that people who check who upvoted a post and they see bots they'll CTRL-F the name of the bot and find the answer to their question.

the minnows will be angry when they see how any whale can just use their steem to just buy upvotes to get whatevr they want to the top of steemit

You don't need to be a steempower whale to spend money on buying votes. That's main thing bidbots are actually about.

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shares (57) · 7 years ago

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