If you are like me, the idea of a tag that allows people to repost high quality but under valued content sounds great. I know that I produced some pretty decent stuff before I had an audience and I would like more people to see those now dead posts. Anyway, I have been using the tag here and there to get some more eyes on my work and I think that is great.
Sadly, like the title sates, we can't have anything nice, apparently. Today,I submitted a zombie post (a review of a really bad propaganda film) and was immediately accused "committing a violation." I have to say, this really rubbed me the wrong way because, from my perspective, I did nothing wrong. The tag is for reposting. I made it clear in the title, the introduction, and in the use of the tag itself that this was a steemitzombies repost. I don't know what else I can do to prevent this type of thing and now I am sitting here not knowing if I am about to have my blog flagged down to nothing because some d-bag didn't bother to do his or her research before throwing accusations of plagiarism around (I don't know how one can plagiarizes himself but whatever).
Venting aside, I just wanted to get this out to warn users that there are people who are willing to destroy this tag because they don't understand what it's all about. I still stand by it and I will not remove or alter my post (for better or worse) but I just wanted to let the community know that there may be some risk that comes with using the tag. I don't know how to address this problem or if it can be addressed but I would like to know what you all think the solution is.
Am I overreacting? I admit that I could be but I take accusations like these very seriously.
Peace.
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You're right to be infuriated. There should be nothing prohibiting anyone reposting his own material. A comment accusing you of plagiarizing is certainly one which can be the grounds for a case of slander or something similar.
On the tag issue it would be great if all tags actually meant something about the content of the post. But since that rule has been flouted for ages with teamthisorthat or circlejerkly tags abounding like nobody's business, no one should really object to any tags anymore afaic
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Thank you. I don't what it is with people who like to point the finger and call someone wrong even of they don't know the truth of things.
Anyone can see my page. I don't spam and everything I write is origional. It might not be the best content on this site but it is my work.
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I don't understand a lot about steemit so far. I'm a little worried about posting my writing on the site since after seven days, it becomes permanent and cannot be edited. It is my writing, but since it becomes "permanent", does that mean the blockchain possesses it? I have the copyright to the writing since I have it available for sale on Amazon and Smashwords, but still it worries me a little. That's why I have added a "copyright by" at the end of each chapter.
I know that situation is different from the reblogging of old posts, but the fact that someone believes it's a form of plagiarism to repost your earlier writing makes my paranoid nature start to wonder whether the "blockchain" becomes the owner of your writing. In essence, when you repost your content, it's no longer considered your content since it's "possessed" by the blockchain.
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As far as I am aware we own our work. The thing is there are no actual rules to violate here. We are supposed to have community based policing of spam, plagiarism, and fraud but some people are to dim to understand the distinction between spam and posting a revision (which to mind is a very normal thing for any writer).
I am no legal expert (I majored in lit) but I would imagine if you hold the copyright no one else can claim ownership. I have gone through the long faq but I do not recall seeing anything about the subject.
I don't know exactly what violation that person was referring to because the comment was vague but I can only imagine it was an accusation of plagiarism because it was all my work from an earlier post. I used some screen captures and a picture that was essentially promotional material but that easily falls under fair use (a fact which I mention at the end of the post).
I feel you about paranoia though. Most of what I post here is stuff that I come up with on the fly so If it was lost to me it isn't a huge deal but for someone who makes content that represents a large investment of time and work it is kind of scary.
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With Wackos it's not such a big deal. It took a lot of time, but I had to write it anyway. I have completed the trilogy, but a fourth needs to be written to finish it. After that is done, I'll either quit writing completely or move on to something else.
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I feel you. I took a three year break where I didn't write anything and I am still scrubbing off all that that rust. I had planned to seek a post graduate degree but I was just so sick of writing stuff that I didn't really believe in and I found myself doing that more and more so I finished what I was doing and I took a break for a while.
You have some talent though so I hope you keep writing. It's a lot of work and whether it will be a success or not is a craps shoot but it is like they say about of the lottery: "You can't win if you don't play."
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It's therapy. I suck at writing, but I've been doing it a long time. Yeah, it's a craps shoot. I really don't care about success, I just wish more eyeballs will see it and maybe feel it wasn't a complete waste of their time.
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Same but you aren't bad. I don't know what your writing process is like but from my own experience editing and polishing ones own work is a bitch. Writing can come pretty easy if you have a vision of what you want to say but it is hard to criticize and not over criticize your own work. For myself, this is the cause of most of the issues with what I write. I miss a mistake because I love the sound of sentence so much or something like that. It also makes me play it too safe sometimes and I remove something that might be "too edgy" or too whatever. That is my flaw anyway.
The trick, I think, is to learn to recognize whatever it is that you don't like about your work. Once you see the issue, you can make an effort to avoid it. Which is what I am not doing right now because I am procrastinating on editing my next post lol.
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Thanks for the inspiration. I agree that the editing process sucks since it's never finished.
I'm looking forward to your next post.
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The blockchain actually functions rather nicely as proof of ownership and date of creation. If you ever have to defend your ownership of your work in court, it would be an asset, not a detriment.
However, by posting here, you are in some sense giving up the right to ever completely remove your work from being available to the public for free if they know where to look. How much that matters to you I don't know.
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Considering the meager sales I have had, I'm more concerned with eyeballs seeing my work and possibly wanting to read more. I have other books they can buy if they want. Mostly, I wrote Wackos because I wanted to. It was therapy of sorts; an attempt to make sense of the chaos swirling around as the earth nears the black hole.
By the way, thanks for clarifying the role of the blockchain.
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That user appears to do nothing but follow cheetah around and post that exact text regardless of the post. Unsure if it's a bot - it doesn't do it very often - or just a very confused user, but either way please don't take it seriously.
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That puts my mind at ease a bit. I feel like steemitzombies is a good idea and I really don't want to see people take it down before it takes off. Plus anyone who looks at my work can see I put some effort into it so I really would be pretty upset so see my rep go crashing down.
Thanks for chiming in I really appreciate it.
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a think u Ned to add more info in the post that its a steemitzombies post if u see how @whatamidoing is doing it u should be fine.
just like on this one:
https://steemit.com/steemitzombies/@whatamidoing/steemitzombies-good-and-bad-are-human-constructs
on ur post is was just a tiny detail it was a repose. easy to overlook
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The person who complained wasn't one of the people who uses the tag though as far as I can tell. I have posted there with this format before an the other people there were fine with it. The person was just some random guy who thought I did something wrong.
All the information is there in my post it is just listed in a different way.
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ahha..a see.
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I don’t think it’s a big deal. Everyone seems to have different ideas about what constitutes a violation. They try to speak with some kind of authority and some users with SP will actually be able to force this kind of authority upon us, but if there are enough of us and we have other SP to back us up, there isn’t anything they can do and I don’t really think we are rubbing too many whales the wrong way, the one sided you need to worry about don’t usually care much what we do as long as it doesn’t impede on their ability to profit and #nobidbot does that a lot more than #steemitzombies and we haven’t seen any downvotes of that tag except for the transparencybot posts which is even more threatening to them than #nobidbot as a whole. I think we are good.
@cheetah is an ally. It won’t flag you for anything if your user name or a link to the material is in your post. The only reason you need to worry about cheetah is if you don’t site your own work somehow. When I’m reposting from Patreon I make a point to edit the Patreon post and link to my Steem profile. This seems to be a double safety to just linking the original article.
As for who owns what, I don’t believe there is any contract that says steemit has the right to our material so I don’t see how anyone can argue that they own what we post.
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Cool. Thank you. I suppose I overacted a bit but hey I put some work into this stuff so I am protective of how my content is seen.
I assumed that we own our posts because that is how it works on most sites of this nature. If one posts on YouTube he or she owns the video but I didn't want to speak with authority about that, especially to @keniza. That guy seems to work hard on his stuff so I wouldn't want to steer him wrong.
The nobidbot thing seems great I really want to start using it but I know my follower growth will take a hit if I stop using resteem services so I have been dragging my feet on that (I would save ton of SBD though). It is good to hear that no one is too upset about it which makes me more willing step into the tag.
Haha is that transparencybot thing related? I have been seeing that around and I love it. It isn't that I am super salty about bots (I don't like them either) but I do think it is good to know how much a post is really worth without them.
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Some people apparently have nothing better to do than go around enforcing their own brand of Steemit doctrine on others. If that sounds just a little too strong for this, it's intentional.
I really don't have a problem with cheetah or other bots, humans, looking for genuine plagiarism, especially but not limited to instances where its actually hurting someone financially. I still believe in the need for copyright laws, now more than ever, since more and more people think it's their right to grab simply because the work exists, and they can.
However, when it's yours, it's yours, and you should be able to post it wherever you want.
That said, even i know what a steemitzombies post is meant to do, and anyone with half a brain (pun intended) and even less ambition to figure things out would see that the tag has a purpose. But I suppose for a Steemit zealot, where code is king, the fact posts are designed only to last seven days here makes that out of bounds.
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Truth. Those types remind me of the childern who would run to tell a teacher that someone was doing something that they don't like in the hope of causing them trouble.
I wasn't super upset about the bot (it upvoted me) but the accusation was what worried me. People read that comment and it makes my work look tainted. Plus it was a pretty good post and it deserved to be seen by more than the 7 or 8 people who saw it last month.
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Just keep doing it. Until the evergreen problem gets solved via code, the rest of us will just have to keep coming up with ways of getting more eyeballs on our work. If they won't do it, then we do it. Isn't that the way it's supposed to work around here anyway? :)
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