I wasn't there for the town hall, but what I gather is that @phelimint is claiming ownership of the STAX account.
There are 178 members is the group and you seem to be the only one that thought that Stax was solely in you ownership. It’s not really a whoopsy Phil, it’s more like driving with your eyes closed and thinking everything will be rosy.
I knew SOMEBODY owned Stax. I don't think it's possible to have a "community" account. Somebody owns it. Somebody has possession of the keys. Owner of the keys = owner of the funds. It's like all the whale-bots. SOMEBODY owns them and SOMEBODY will ride off into the sunset with all the cash.
The difficulty here is that it was never communicated that any donations to the bot were donations to @phelimint. Donations to a "community" account, for serving the community is easier to accept than a transfer to a private account, that will eventually lead to a private "cashout".
There is no community owned account. No such thing.
Is there a recording of the town hall meeting? I wouldn't mind listening in. @ironshield
I dont see bots like randowhale are minnowbooster having people send them donations and holding contests to rename them. Phil should have known a long time ago to have cleared this up. To much was over looked and it's not the fact that he is the owner, its the fact that it took 7 months for us to find out. A true community bot can be powered down every year and profits split. Just because you have never seen one does not mean it cant be. With the private keys in the hands of the right people, it can be done. Its the difference between a dictatorship and democracy and what's steemit is all about.
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It would have been better for Phil to be more transparent and refer to STAX as "my bot" and request input for decisions while stating that he has final say. As his bot, nobody should be concerned if he upvotes whomever he wills at 100%, (even himself) with his bot. But implying it was "community" orientated, using phrases such as "we" and conducting votes - all of this language and action would give the impression decisions were community determined. The reality is that once he accepted 'donations' and offered 'tiers', it wasn't really completely his bot anymore. He is beholden to those who donated to meet their expectations - which needed to be clearly defined from the beginning. @ironshield
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Can a community bot be privately owned by one individual, but 100% community focused. If he takes up to 1 daily 100% upvote as pay for his time and effort does that negate it being a 100% community bot? You are right that a bot account can't really be a community owned account unless that is stated in the "bylaws" and the work to run, maintain, manage and host it is equally shared by all owners. Did all these butthurt individuals ever have the expertise or offer their time and energy to help manage it before now??
Seems it was and still is a community supporting bot.
But what do I know!? I'm a stacker....but I dont Post. So I have never been a member of the SSG bot community.
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this has the recording https://steemit.com/dsound/@sevinwilson/20180317t154518936z-steemsilvergold-march-16th-stax-town-hall-meeting and I agree with you; anyone holding the key is the sole owner whatever intentions this person may have or not have
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Thank you for the link. The awkward silence after "it's mine" seemed to go on for like 5 minutes. @ironshield
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I couldnt listen to more than 15min of the recording there were like 3 hot mics and so the recording was.....bad.
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