FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE EVERYONE TO TAKE A FEW DEEP BREATHS, EXHALE, AND COUNT TO 10 (OK Damus, take your time and count to 20...) :P
Alrighty then, there were a few items that came to light recently with "adjustments" to Stax's voting output levels. Just so happens these things also coincide with the recent drop in Steem and SBD prices. _DOUBLE WHAMMY! _ That's got everybody just a little edgy, I'm feeling it too. Let's break these items down one at a time...
Maybe it's time to adjust @phelimint, @qurator, and @silvergoldbotty. I do not see their names on the adjustment form. Those 3 100% up votes could sure save us some power. You say that you wanna keep it at 94 to 95, but with those 3 100% up votes it will never get there...
A couple issues are addressed here, maybe 3...
A. Bot Operators typically up-vote the main account to help support the Bot Account (I do because I am supplementing my bots with all my available SBD atm) Maybe Phil can shed some light here... Even if he is just self-rewarding I have no problems with that, as long as it's not excessive, and taking away from the community.
B. Qurator Votes: I know what this is, and I did ask Phil. This is vote-trading, and with a commensurate sized vote. This practice does "indirectly" help the community bot, until you have problems with distributions and weights. IMO this would be or could be the first thing to go.
C. STAX Self-Votes: This one most directly helps the internal build up of the Botty.
Summation of #1... IMO at least one of these will have to be axed. Cutting the Qurator vote out would restore 12 Gold members to the 40% status (we only have 9 Gold) or support 100 new entry levels. Or get things back to normal faster. Stopping STAX from _SELF WANKING _ (lmao!) would have the same effect, but reduce growth rates.
"Also, i would like an announcement from you @phelimint, as to whom the $7,000+ in Stax’s wallet belongs to."
Now I'm thinking the same thing. Where does that go when it's all said and done? Steem is way down and Stax isn't even 6 months old. (2 comments together)
There was never any question in my mind, whoever starts the account, does the programming/hosting and crunches the numbers, gets the wallet. That is always how it has been. BUT Before anyone "takes their ball and goes Home" there is a solution for this. I do it, @cryptoempire does it, and several other bid-bots do it... SBD Profit sharing. But it will hamper the growth of the "native SP" for Stax. The SP she holds is equivalent to a GOLD DELI. We want that to Grow. Profit Sharing? It will slow the Bot Growth, and most, and I mean MOST of our current woes are due to the sagging Steem Price. This should be a separate discussion.
- No one gets Stax 100 unless it’s possible for anyone to achieve this status
1a. Stax stops self-voting
1b. Whatever curator is doing for ssg he gets a tier like the rest of us
1c. Phelimint returns to gold membership — if that’s the highest — but gets it for free out of respect for your work.
Like I said on the "Why Wait" post, the Steemit Voting Power Model only tolerates Eleven 100% up-votes daily, so in reality, it should only be Phil or no one.
As for A, B, and C, not all 3 are necessary. We could eliminate one of these and likely make up the difference we need, and keep it there. If I had all the numbers available, I could give specifics. But IMO, we should prolly eliminate one, change one and keep one. Minimum. STAX Self-Voting is the same as the Vote Trading with Qurator. Here's everything you ever wanted to know about that account: https://steemworld.org/@qurator Qurator has a slightly larger vote than Stax, so other than burning up VP that the members won't get, the Vote Trade was a big WIN. What Phil did for our community Bot there would be like Trump switching the USA's $800 Billion Trade Deficit directly into an $800 Billion Trade SURPLUS lol
We definitely need some Tweaks, I'd love to see the Gold Votes back up to 40% if possible, but as we gain new members, EVERYONE gets a smaller %, that is just how it must be! But if all the new members DELEGATE, and all the non-Deli old members Delegate too, we can have a bigger PIE to slice up! But if Steem were to jump back to $5 tomorrow, no one would really be thinking of any of this nearly as seriously as we are now. This is not a PROBLEM, this is an OPPORTUNITY to get our course set for the Good Times Ahead!
I got to 18 and fell asleep...
Great info @underground! Until yesterday i have been an avid supporter of ALL of Phil’s efforts, hell, i would assume even he would say so...
Much of your expertise has helped to clarify several things, but i still think we are a long way off the mark for making Stax a universally attractive ssg bot. I will air these concerns in a post and will, of course, give due respect to your fine work.
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I'm there way ahead of you. I thought I just sat down in front of my desktop and I just woke up with these Keyboard key indentations all over my face.
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Makes you look like Fierce Ninja! :o
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A Japanese senpai friend had a a saying, "働き過ぎ" expressed as Hataraki sugi, "Too much work" I have yet to know off any opponent to flee at the sight of it.
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lmao :D
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Great post mate, I like the idea of the profit sharing, but maybe those profits would only be shared if Stax ever powers down or gets broken down for parts. Because her wallet balance has grown because of us all- it would be fair for us all to have a relative share IF she gets disassembled. I agree tho that Phil should be entitled to the largest slice of cake because he really does work hard for Stax!
I think the qurator vote is good for the growth of Stax, but maybe it could be cut in half to 50% to stop it affecting power levels so much, and that with @phelimints reduced daily vote should see tiers rise again :-)
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Thanks underground. I have been out of the loop on this and trying to catch up on what is going on. your post is really helping. Cheers
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Thx for the discussion man, I also made a reply this evening, I hope it helps to clarify everything going on.
https://steemit.com/steemsilvergold/@silvergoldbotty/open-letter-to-the-steemsilvergold-community-from-phelimint-regarding-stax
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Please don't feel too hurt by this @phelimint you are doing an amazing job and have been open and honest from the start and your work is hugely appreciated!! 👍
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Yes it does, I did not know the extent of your toil to keep everything going as well as it does!
I have verified everything that I could for one night, it's amazing how you are wringing the most out of what you have to work with. :-)
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This is all new to me and I know my opinion may not carry much weight at the moment but surely for new members of ssg there should be a minimum of a token gesture of a delegation of 2sp. I believe this would solve a few issues of people gaining without putting anything back at all into the community.
On that note I am gonna go delegate a few sp to stax
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Yeah Man! Way to go!
It really makes a difference if you have some "skin in the game"
Even w/o Profit Sharing I think we need to have a minimum SP
"DELI" even for the lower rung, entry level peeps. 2-3 would be
PERFECT even if the current lowest level is 5...
I need to see some numbers cuz I could whip out a structure
in a few minutes.
We have newbs that Cannot Really Afford DELI wanting to get on board the new bid-bot! People are buying more steem just for a power-up and Deli to it...
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low STEEM is a drag
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Yes it is, but on the other hand... Buying Opportunity! :D
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yeah, I was thinking about that yesterday, there seems to be a pretty clear annual trend with crypto with it shitting the bed this time of year, if STEEM really shits the bed I am going to buy a whole lot.
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It is actually time to start "DCA'ing" right now, IMO
I think we are near the lows it will see, at least the trading has leveled off. If you wait for lower lows, it's likely to rise IMO.
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I am Ok with that too!
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You offer some great changes for the better my man. Thanks for giving your opinion as a somebody that knows the inner workings of a bot. 👍
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thanks P-B!
Phil is doing a better job than even I thought, but there may be one avenue where we could really take Stax from the low 100k SP ranks to maybe over 200k SP... maybe... :D
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