SteemWorld ~ Weekly Support ~ #36

steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

Server Upgrade

In case steemworld.org should not be reachable within the next few hours, don't panic, my web hoster is currently upgrading one of my servers.

The work should be done by Wednesday, 5. June 03:00 UTCat the latest.

I totally forgot to prepare for that. Too many things in my head recently...
Sorry for the inconvenience!

Falls steemworld.org in den nächsten Stunden nicht erreichbar sein sollte, keine Panik, mein Webhoster aktualisiert gerade einen meiner Server.

Die Arbeit sollte bis spätestens Mittwoch, 5. Juni 03:00 UTC erledigt sein.

Ich habe total vergessen, mich darauf vorzubereiten. Zu viele Dinge in meinem Kopf in letzter Zeit...
Sorry für die Unannehmlichkeiten!

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dera123 (62) · 5 years ago

Dann weiß ich nun wieso es nicht geht und kann beruhigt schlafen gehen xD

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thekitchenfairy (71) · 5 years ago

good luck, hopefully the upgrade goes well

yes its still down on my end.

btw, just like your name says, CHILL :) dont get too stressed out :)

bernardino (58) · 5 years ago (edited)

Thank you for keeping us so informed and updated! Your site and service is so professional, you are a great asset to our community.

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meins0815 (71) · 5 years ago

hahaha, ich dachte meine prepayd karte ist schon wieder alle im ersten moment xD

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cyberspacegod (62) · 5 years ago

I started to get worried that there were some major problems =X

Fortunately You informed here, so no more panic xD.. Take all the time You need ;)

Also, a big THANK YOU for all the good work You've done until now!!

All the best,
Cy

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borepstein (74) · 5 years ago

Thanks for the heads up!
Hopefully this upgrade goes smoothly.

isarmoewe (64) · 5 years ago

Works again for 5 minutes now. :-)
Glad to have found an announcement here. :-)

sparkesy43 (59) · 5 years ago

Thanks for the heads up. I was wondering of your site had been blocked by IT in my office.

accelerator (67) · 5 years ago

I first thought it was my ISP, but then checked here.
Thanks, as always, for the great work and the clear sense of direction for all the features.
I hope you are well :-)

erikah (72) · 5 years ago

It's 6:29 UTC now and it's still not working. Any idea how long is this going to take?

steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

Does SteemWorld still not load for you? It should work since ~ 12 hours... Maybe it's related to a DNS caching issue and your internet provider's DNS didn't refresh yet (should do that automatically after some time, can take a few hours depending on the configured interval).

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9 votes

erikah (72) · 5 years ago

It works fine, thank you. Got back to normal half an hour after I posted my comment. I'm going to check the accuracy of the curation tomorrow.
Thank you for fixing it, it's the most important tool one can have!

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newageinv (70) · 5 years ago

I was worried for a bit as I cannot live on Steem and engage without it!

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mariannewest (71) · 5 years ago

Und jetzt wissen alle we sehr wir uns auf Steemworld verlassen!!
Danke dir dafuer!!

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depot69 (69) · 5 years ago

Hoffentlich funktioniert es bald wieder, bie dahin ein !BEER

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

^{To view or trade BEER go to steem-engine.com.}

Hey @steemchiller, here is your BEER token. Enjoy it!

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axeman (85) · 5 years ago

Well it still doesn't work here (tried chrome, brave, firefox whatever). Always says connection timeout

Anything could be done at local machine?

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ew-and-patterns (70) · 5 years ago

You are a genius!
I hope all users will give you a witness vote, once your witness goes live.
MIRA is out, so your excuse for not running a witness node does not count anymore ;-)

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flemingfarm (68) · 5 years ago

Exactly! I am impatiently waiting for him to get his witness going so I can throw my vote at him. If anyone deserves to be a top 10 witness it is @steemchiller!!!

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cityofstars (65) · 5 years ago

The Website Is On
if it still not working for you yet do the following:

in your phone disable the mobile data for a while then enable it again, if it fixed line turn off the main router for a while then turn it on again(Recommended)
Use a VPN or change your DNS

well I was thinking it's my ISP blocking me from accessing to it while it's on and you @steemchiller tell us next time before you do something like that because today I lost without SteemWorld.org, it's my workspace for everything hehe

at the end, we all appreciate your efforts ;)

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glenalbrethsen (68) · 5 years ago

hey, @cityofstars.

Thanks for the troubleshooting tips. I don't connect via mobile, so I did unplug the main router for a bit with no results. So, I've been using TOR and it seems to work great. Maybe Safari will work after I reboot the computer but I probably won't know that until tomorrow morning.

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cityofstars (65) · 5 years ago

checkout @steemchiller latest post and download the zip file of steemworld

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lanzjoseg (74) · 5 years ago

Hi @steemchiller

You know I have a friend @jga Julian who did a Check-Votes program with specific characteristics, I wanted to see more than three decimals regarding the voting and those who actually voted compared with your application and I see that the behavior of both are very I looked like the link Check-Votes

I congratulate you, I really like the improvement

Greetings from Venezuela, a country that fights for its freedom

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chriddi (73) · 5 years ago (edited)

As usual, great work, dear Chiller!
Concerning the "Link IDs" I'ld love if you also found a simple (?!) solution to show the shortened content for 'Curation Rewards' and - more important - 'Author Rewards'. Not really necessary but if it's simple to develop (! 'simple' is important - since I have no idea about the outlay !) it might be one click less for some thankful users... 😊
Never mind - do what's most important for you!
Liebe Grüße,
Chriddi

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6 votes

steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

Thanks for the idea @chriddi! I'm working on it and it's already done for the Coming Author Rewards. I want to have that for the Coming Curation Rewards, Mentions and a few other features too.

I'm also thinking about adding kind of a 'post link popup' that shows up after few seconds when hovering the mouse over those links (like the one for the author links), which shows a few more post details. Not that important currently but a 'nice-to-have' feature for the future...

LG, Chiller

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8 votes

xels (68) · 5 years ago (edited)

Wie immer unterstütze ich Dich gerne und sage viiiieeeeeelen Dank für deinen Einsatz 👍

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roleerob (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

Very limited time @steemchiller, but great as always to read the "latest, greatest" on my favorite Steem app.

Thank you for embedding an appeal to FTG in this post. A lot of good people are still being hurt, so we'll see what response you get.

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P.S. While waiting for your server to be upgraded, I had no choice but to go back to what I used prior to learning about SteemWorld - steemd. Not to speak ill of those not present, as I'm sure they did their best, but ... And no question it does work and better than nothing, but ... Sure glad I found out about SteemWorld! 👍

Thanks for the (unintended) reminder! 😉

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erikah (72) · 5 years ago

I did the same and agree with you. It is something but far from what we need and far from this tool.

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drakernoise (60) · 5 years ago

Hi @steemchiller,
I like the way you’r following with your development, things are going smoother and new info is quite useful.
About that issue I spotted of the info not being refreshed after a day change I can tell it’s sorted if there was such issue as you pointed out on your last post. Anyway any change you’ve made it’s been seemless as I have been checking out.
Thanks so much (again) for your regularity and resilience on these hard times.
My best wishes for your week, cheers

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meins0815 (71) · 5 years ago

wird ja wirklich von woche zu woche immer besser und ausgeklügelter :-)

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pixelfan (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

To those who still have the problem connecting to steemworld:
I had the same problem on my machine and discovered I could connect from my phone. So I made a hotspot from my phone and tried to connect from my pc -> problem solved.
I suppose it's a local DNS cache problem. I cleared my PC DNS cache but that didn't solved the problem. Next thing I'll try is to clear the cache from my router...

EDIT: problem is now completely solved by rebooting my router!

steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

Thanks for your help!

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axeman (85) · 5 years ago

Well, cleaning DNS + rebooting router didn't worked here. Still same issue

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ervin-lemark (71) · 5 years ago

@steemchiller
I can't reach steemworld.org either. Tried from at least three different networks. No luck :(

Can you, by any chance, give us the IP address?

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pixelfan (74) · 5 years ago

Hi @steemchiller,

Just a little question... I noticed that in the overview of the coming rewards (author rewards, not the curation rewards) you not longer display posts and or comments under a certain amount. (I suppose the "dust-votes")
Will it stay that way or is there a setting somewhere I don't know of?

Keep up the great job! I think I spend more time on steemworld than on steemit itself :-)
Thanks for this wonderful tool!!!

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steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

Yes, the dust payouts are no longer in there, because they are not really 'coming rewards'. But I told to myself:

If someone notices the change and leaves a comment, you should add an option in Settings...

So, there we are... ^^ I will add it with the next update ;)

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14 votes

pixelfan (74) · 5 years ago

hahahaha, I'm sure other people also noticed that, I think I was just a (little) bit more impatient :-)

I find it very useful to see the comments where someone gave me a small upvote. People with low SP are most of the time new and are not aware of the dust-vote concept. The least I can do is find these upvotes and upvote them myself above the dust-value... at least they then get some curation...

Thanks again for the good work and the ultra-quick reply :-)

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ervin-lemark (71) · 5 years ago

https://steemworld.org is down and I am completely lost :(

Is some reindexing taking place?

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xpilar (83) · 5 years ago

Hi @ervin-lemark

I feel the same, totally lost
Now we see how important steemworld is to us when we don't get the page up

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gungho (72) · 5 years ago

Me too, it's down for me too in Asia, but we should be patient. It's strange that steemworld.org works on my smart phone but not the PC. I used my PC to upgrade to the newest version and everything went kaplooey. We miss the site!

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ervin-lemark (71) · 5 years ago

Yes, we do miss it. I guess it was available for a moment and now is down again. Eh, now I am using Partiko to see the notifications. But for everything else ... steemworld.org is the only option!

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ervin-lemark (71) · 5 years ago

Aha, server stuff. OK; I'll try to be patient :)

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mellofello (68) · 5 years ago

Nice, I love the hover over vote comment feature. It will save so much time.
Thank you for your hard work and relentless continued development.
Take care and stay positive.

kaerpediem (70) · 5 years ago

Just dropped in to say thank you and truly appreciate what you do

themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

The site is still down for me on my machine, I can't even ping the IP. I am able to ping it from a remote server.

I notice both have the same IP, I initially thought it was an DNS issue.

I've asked around and it seems some can access and some cannot access.

Any idea @steemchiller?

steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

That's interesting. I checked the availability with https://www.uptrends.com/tools/uptime and it's working from all checkpoints. I don't block any IPs, so maybe something is blocking your connection from a central point near you.

I've heard there have been many ISP issues all over the world lately and many people can't sign in to their bank account (mainly US, even big banks)...

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago (edited)

I've asked around and it seems 50% can see it 50% can't.
I surely can't.

I really doubt it has anything to do with "ISP issues all over the world". This is very specific to your host I'm going to guess (and would put money on if I was to bet).

I did a trace route, and the problems are very close to your ISP. This looks like an issue with your provider.

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nokodemion (59) · 5 years ago

Agreed, @steemchiller

Check your Certificate, it's not configured correct. That's why ISP providers are blocking.

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

Certificate (I assume you mean SSL) wouldn't cause an ISP to block it, nor would it cause it to be unpingable. This looks like a networking issue. There is some route that is down near his host, or there are firewall/routing rules blocking some people.

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steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

Yes, looks like a networking issue, but I still don't believe that it is coming from my hoster. What's the last reachable point in your tracert?

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

I don't have it front of me as I closed it, but some france colo.

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steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

Seems to be a local DNS cache issue. @pixelfan was able to solve it by resetting his router.

Whatever my hoster changed, the way it was done was not really professional in my eyes. I will take further steps...

Priority for realising a 'Local SteemWorld' has changed today.

nokodemion (59) · 5 years ago

PING 37.17.224.60 (37.17.224.60) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 37.17.224.60: icmp_seq=1 ttl=34 time=100 ms
64 bytes from 37.17.224.60: icmp_seq=2 ttl=34 time=100 ms
64 bytes from 37.17.224.60: icmp_seq=3 ttl=34 time=100 ms

--- 37.17.224.60 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 100.676/100.689/100.707/0.366 ms

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

I can ping from one of my servers, but not my machine. I am not the only one who can't access it so I know it isn't limited to me.

I believe it is networking related (routing/firewall) and the fact his provider just did maintenance is awfully suspicious timing.

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nokodemion (59) · 5 years ago

Yup, I feel handicapt... without steemworld...

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pixelfan (74) · 5 years ago

Check my latest comment hereunder...

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pixelfan (74) · 5 years ago

Same problem for me here...
I still have a working version in a browsertab I didn't close during the night. Other browsers can't make the connection...????

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

25% of the payout is being distributed among the curators (voters) and the burned part (when voting before the 15th minute) goes to @null (back to the reward pool)

Going to the reward pool and going to @null is not the same thing.

Going to @null removes the rewards from circulation, and shrinks the overall size of the reward pool, by returning to the reward pool the rewards are redistributed and increases the potential rewards to all other authors and curators with pending payouts.

steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

Thanks for explaining! Didn't think about that but it makes sense of course. I will correct it ;)

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barski (73) · 5 years ago

We feel like an orphan, who was abandoned, left at the station, completely forgotten))) We are waiting for the return! Successes!

steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

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barski (73) · 5 years ago

Let's wait, I tried to download on a smartphone and on a computer, so far, it does not work. Many thanks for the response!

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steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

Maybe @cityofstars's answer can help you to accelerate the process ;)

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9 votes

glenalbrethsen (68) · 5 years ago

Looks like folks were having issues while mine was working earlier. Now this is what I'm getting:

Screen Shot 2019-06-05 at 8.10.54 PM.png

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steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

My hoster is currently investigating the issue. I'm prepared for whatever comes. If it won't work for all users in the next few hours, I will upload a downloadable (local) version of SteemWorld to a few different servers.

That one can't be stopped and it will work on any device in the world. A few minor things like the currency conversion would require some adjustments to be made, but the most part is stable out of the box, as always.

Now I know, why I planned for (and prepared long time ago) a local version of SteemWorld :) Have a nice day!

(My vote will come later, because I need a small rest...)

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12 votes

glenalbrethsen (68) · 5 years ago

I just appreciate that you're on it, so thanks for that. Since others with trouble earlier getting onto steemworld seemed to be able to now while mine did the exact opposite I figured I should mention it. Kind of odd how this is playing out, but no worries on my end. Thanks for all you do.

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barski (73) · 5 years ago

Hallelujah! On the smartphone, I see! I see the statistics! This is a good end of the day!

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cityofstars (65) · 5 years ago

man try my solution as @steemchiller told you if it does not work both of them try to use Tor because when I was having this issue I used Tor and then it's works later on I did the recommended solution as I said here

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barski (73) · 5 years ago

Thank you, I tried to change everything, reset the cache and much more I did, but the only site that does not work on my computer and phone is yours.

Maybe there are more options, how to fix the problem?

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retinox (64) · 5 years ago (edited)

Hello @steemchiller
There is always a bigger difference in the specification of the final payout of a post.
E.g. have a look at my post https://steemit.com/steembasicincome/@retinox/upvote-game-c-round-56-win-3-shares-for-your-steembasicincome-with-every-post-reglas
Steemit says: 2.24$
Steemworld says:
Payout Total 2.291$
Do you know where the difference comes from.
Thank you!
@retinox

retinox (64) · 5 years ago

@steemchiller
I just saw the details on steemworld:
Payout Author 1.718$|75.00%
Payout Curators 0.518$|22.61%
The sum is 2.24$ (rounded) like on Steemit.
Is 22.61% right? shoudn't it be 25%?
If you assume 0.518$ is 22.61% and calculate that then 25% would be 0.573$ your total payout of 2.29 would be right.

accelerator (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

Hi, it is very rarely exactly 25% - usually less though can also be more. It is often less because those voting before 15 minutes lose some of their curation rewards. It can also fluctuate depending on the price of SBD, whether higher or lower than the encoded $1.

Third party sites may also differ from Steemit depending on whether they are using the blockchain price of STEEM or market prices.

mmm... had a deeper look for you and looks like Steemit now publishes post-rewards as actually the post-payouts, hence deducting at source the lost curation rewards. I find that annoying! But it explains the discrepancies. So $2.29 was your post-rewards, with $0.05 lost curation rewards. Note that the author-rewards of $1.718 are also 75% of $2.29.

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steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

had a deeper look for you and looks like Steemit now publishes post-rewards as actually the post-payouts, hence deducting at source the lost curation rewards.

Exactly! I guess most platforms currently show the net amounts for paid out posts, because the nodes return that as total payout. I recently changed it on SteemWorld, so that the missing part will be added afterwards by calculating the burned payout as follows:

nBurned = ( nTotal / AUTHOR_PERCENTAGE ) - nTotal - nCurators

where AUTHOR_PERCENTAGE = 0.75

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8 votes

rycharde (63) · 5 years ago

Yes, I noticed ages ago you show the % burned, which is a useful gauge of how much early voting happens.

BTW the curation rewards lost are not actually burned, that is, they are not sent to null, they are just left in the reward pool. people often say they are "returned to the reward pool" but that's not quite right either - they are just not taken out!

steemchiller (74) · 5 years ago

Thanks for your comment! Yes, the '% burned' is still not being shown for paid out posts currently (only added to the total payout), but I will add it also for those posts in one of the next versions.

It's all a bit confusing in the current UIs. Maybe we should find a better title for 'burned' like 'lost' or 'ineffective'. Might even be better to change it completely on all UIs and show also the coming payout amount always without the lost curation shares, because it's not really the correct coming payout when part of it will never be paid out anyway... :)

In that sense the 'total payout' that is being returned from the nodes after payout is correct.

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9 votes

retinox (64) · 5 years ago

Oh yes... thank you @accelerator - that's a good explanation for the discrepancy.

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ajorundon (61) · 5 years ago

Good work you are doing for the community. Thank you.

blacklux (67) · 5 years ago

How are we supposed to survive without steemworld while the server is being updated?! Aaaaah!!! Jeez, I'm so used to use the site that I feel naked without it! 😅

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erikah (72) · 5 years ago

More like blind in my humble opinion.

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blacklux (67) · 5 years ago

Blind and naked! hahaha

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erikah (72) · 5 years ago

Good thing it's fixed now.

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sheikh27 (61) · 5 years ago

The most effected and great development of steemworld, its alwalys give us more confidence and assurance to use this platform, i am happy to use this one. Thank you very much.

Posted using Partiko Android

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campfire (48) · 5 years ago

Just wanted to say 'thanks' for all the great work you do on SteemWorld. It's a tool I use everyday now!

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steemingmark (55) · 5 years ago

More fantastical well mate what a great site I use it most days thanks a lot for keeping it running!

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retinox (64) · 5 years ago

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altooq (43) · 5 years ago

looking forward

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josemalavem (63) · 5 years ago

Voted, though from my little power. A few days ago I made an elementary consultation, but I did not get an answer. I suppose you are very busy. Greetings and thanks.

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lordvdr (61) · 5 years ago

Keep up the good work!

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cosmophobia (67) · 5 years ago

@steemchiller
Sir, I have been using your SteemWorld site now for a few weeks and as a result I have decided to donate to you in a few hours time.
I just want to thank you for creating such an info site, its amazing.

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curatorcat (66) · 5 years ago

A little worried this afternoon when I suddenly couldn't get to SteemWorld... but read your comment about your hosting service, and all was well again. Just goes to show how much I have come to depend on SteemWorld for my overall navigation and enjoyment of all things Steem!

Thanks for all your hard work!

=^..^=

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steemprojects (2) · 5 years ago

This post has been just added as new item to timeline of SteemWorld on Steem Projects.

If you want to be notified about new updates from this project, register on Steem Projects and add SteemWorld to your favorite projects.

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cosmophobia (67) · 5 years ago

@steemchiller
Thank you, I dont know how you do it but I very much enjoyed looking at my information with just one click away and the best part is that I dont have to reload the page. Gracias amigo.

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jacuzzi (70) · 5 years ago

Keep doing amazing things! I fully support you and this project!

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mima2606 (69) · 5 years ago

Du hast ein 100 % Upvote von unserem Curation – Support – Reblog Account erhalten. Dieser wurde per Hand erteilt und nicht von einem Bot. Wir, die Mitglieder des German Steem Bootcamps möchten die Deutsche Community stärken. Bei einer Mitgliedschaft im German Steem Bootcamp könnt ihr sicher sein, dass eure Beiträge auch gelesen werden.

N E U - jeden Donnerstag findet bei uns ab 19 Uhr die Quasselstunde statt wo du nicht nur mit uns reden kannst - es werden auch tolle Preise verlost

Du findest uns im Discord unter https://discord.gg/vTsTSrZ

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ylich (67) · 5 years ago

Ich wusste schon dass ich Steemworld brauchte, aber jetzt weiss ich dass es für mich Notwendig ist!!! 🤩

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mariannewest (71) · 5 years ago

Still not loading for me :(

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suman156 (46) · 5 years ago

Posted using Partiko Android

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hasenmann (65) · 5 years ago

Danke Dir für Deinen Einsatz!!

Und wie immer upvote&resteem

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miti (75) · 5 years ago

Congratulations! I just stopped by to say that your post has been selected as a daily Featured Post of my personal curation project! You can find the daily Featured Post HERE.
I upvoted your contribution and I put it on the list because to my mind your post is what I call a quality content!
I am @miti, a manual curator that shall make available all his Steem Power to authors deserving of support. Let's make STEEM great again!
Have a nice day and keep up the good work!

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dreemsteem (68) · 5 years ago

thank you for your awesome service to us! :)

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accelerator (67) · 5 years ago

Hi again, not sure if this helps isolate the problem but have this strange effect: I have browser tabs where steemworld is still open from before the server maintenance and within those tabs it is still running ok, but if I try to open a new tab or reload the page then get the usual error of connection timing out.

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accelerator (67) · 5 years ago

Oh yeah, almost forgot, I tried to access a couple of other domains hosted on the same server and none of them are accessible from here.

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