Suggestion how to improve Steemit . There are posts whose voting time should be more then a one week.πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

in suggest β€’Β  7 years agoΒ 

The issue:

I think there's a problem now to bring Steemit inserting really large content writers, why?(videos, photos,etc..)
It is said that a person spent a week writing a particular article (writes a weekly post), the post really interesting and can sweep a wide audience for example over 100,000 views in the post, the post is very interesting and relevant.
The same user who wrote the post has spent a week or more writing the post.

But after a week he gets his reward

and you can not vote for that good post anymore.

This prevents serious people from writing more meaningful content to Steemit.

This problem makes people want to write something long and really good, write it in chapters.

Because otherwise if they write everything at once,

the post may receive a high reward, but not high enough in relation to their investment of writing, shooting, make a research for the post.
Certainly not people who make thousands of dollars on YouTube every month and their popularity gives them more money on the side of advertising products in their videosΧ₯

This makes people who come from outside reading posts in sections, and perhaps not enjoy a post that was supposed to be complete and beautiful.

I see a lot of these posts, posts that arouse a lot of interest, those I so much want to vote for and I can not!
I understand that there is the whole problem of rewards that it is already working in a certain method and it is very difficult to change what exists, but this can be advice that will make successful and good stamars write long and beautiful posts.
The matter of a week is very limiting.


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Offer for a solution:

It is possible to set parameters for posts in which a rewarding vote of more than one week is allowed. The higher the compensation, the higher the time limit for compensating votes.

For example:
500+ views + $ 700 gives an extension of five additional days.
If a percentage of the SP is in a particular article + a certain number of witnesses who have voted for the same post, the post will receive an extension of retaliatory time.(I do not know the math but I suppose that it's very complicated to implement this on the code, the math is less complicated..)

Suggestions?

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Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Not a bad idea. It could be a way to better incentivize the creation of content with long-term quality.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Although the idea isn’t bad, it isn’t exactly good. I like the 7 day system but perhaps Steemians could purchase a longer payout upfront if they are so confident about their following and content.

Yes, A method should implemented to support long term rewards.
Like anyone can upvote Any post after 7 days as well but the author will be rewarded in a 7 day batch from the day he/she initially wrote.
That would attract a lot writer to write their blog here and get rewarded in long term.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

I totally agree with you. That way, writers can still follow threads even after seven days, thereby profiting both the steem community and the writers.

Yes. Same method, like Flag and invite but need just 7 or 8 lines more code and done.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ (edited)

Interesting. I like your idea , but i would to add a suggestion that if Γ  steemians want to extend his post, he should pays some fees according to the period of extension... Because everyone want extend his profit so just the serious pay to gain..and it's limited to 30 days because the way the graph database behind the scenes stores all the active posts in ram. So they limited it for technical reasons.

grate full suggest for steemit or busy tnx @amiramnoam

good suggest broo very help for me. you can help me sir for steemit? @amiramnoam

How can we make progress,it is a very good guide.
Hopefully this post is our great consultant @amiramnoam

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ (edited)

A very good suggestion. Still many of us are still unknown about Steemit. We can learn a lot through your post @amiramnoam

Well after go through your solution, it feeling good, and i agree with your opinion, but every system has their own ecosystem to survive, in steemit the best possible way which operationalizes after a true research, but once again i must appreciate your solution it worth for many of us, thanks for your such impressive contribution, keep sharing such stuff, steem on

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Good to see this post.realy good job.

I've been posting about my Music, tastes and random discussions around music nowadays, but I'm new-ish here. And with 70 followers (who somehow only rarely show themselves on my posts), I don't have enough following to make a thread important on its own, thus I need to cut it into different Parts.

One recommendation would be to rework the "follow" system. I've seen a lot of people criticising how "inactive followers" were pumping their numbers up, without really giving any results. Just like buying (bot) followers, but you've actually worked for them, and what for? nothing..

This platform that relies on making people want to share, discuss, post, and follow can't survive if this "greed" that gets us moving is dissolved by the lack of results. Maybe delete accounts that have been inactive for a few months (after some "URGENT" emails to their owners), and share their wallet with all the accounts they were following or something.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

the content is very influential to the development of steemit members sometimes don't think of good content, they just make it, post good content is content that you can pull out the issues facing someone and rewarding.
that would have been discussed in detail.
thanks @amiramnoam

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Seriously i am agree with your post, and agree #with this point too This prevents serious people from writing more meaningful content to Steemit.
Thank you for sharing.
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Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Love to rread iit. steem is an appropriate means of expressing your opinion, publishing any news.steem is best.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ (edited)

Tganks dear for sharing most valuable post...
voted and reteemit done

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Thanks for this wonderful suggestion. It will surely help

Resteemit doen dear..

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Wow!!😍😍it's a good suggestion from steemit!! thank for the post!!πŸ’πŸ’πŸ’πŸ’πŸ’πŸ’πŸ’πŸ’

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

it's a very helpful writing.
i like this suggestion.

thanks for sharing.

carry on.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

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Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

This is very good observation .. and you are right about everything , my suggestion is that ... voting should be indefinite but payout should be weekly based ... there are post of 2 years ago here on the platform still benefiting new users , those authors deserves to earn from them, I don't know how it's going to be implemented but I'm sure it's possible

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Thank you @amiramnoam for a nice article. i am fully agree with you and always try to read your article for cz learn something from you. thank you again for sharing nice article.

usefull stuff

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Makes sense. Content meant to be read fully, would unnecessarily be broken into parts, just for votes. I hope the powers that be, implement it.

I Never thought of it this way. This might be really affecting the people to write good content!!

While I write the best I can, I never thought of this issue when I write anything, but yes if this issue got resolved, people would put in more effort.

But don’t u think this would also harm people in another way? Only some people might enjoy all the benefits of the reward pool πŸ€” Even if the limit is set to a number of views or dollars earned, still, minnows never get this much attention no matter what they write, only whales can achieve it and they are already earning so much πŸ˜›πŸ˜›πŸ˜›.

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Your suggestion itself is a good one.
But good contents may not get $700,if not $7.
My suggestion is to continue the already existing system of writing in parts ..Here The author's discretion does play the role!

good suggest thenaks

Muy buena esta sugerencia y de gran ayuda para los que se incorporan a steemit.

That's a good suggestion.
It'll be really rewarding for people who work a lot on their articles.
But the trending page is already filled with a lot of articles that are just there because of the high power of the author. This may even further that.

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ΧͺΧ›Χœ'Χ‘ Χ”Χ”Χ¦Χ’Χ•Χͺ שלך Χ”ΧŸ Χ‘Χ•Χ’ של Χ€Χ©Χ¨Χ” Χ‘Χ™ΧŸ Χ”ΧžΧ¦Χ‘ הקיים ΧœΧžΧ¦Χ‘ של Χ—Χ•Χ‘Χ¨ Χ”Χ’Χ‘ΧœΧ” Χ‘Χ›ΧœΧœ, Χ•Χ”Χ©ΧΧœΧ” היא האם Χ”ΧžΧ¦Χ‘ הקיים ΧžΧ‘Χ•Χ‘Χ‘ גל Χ”Χ’Χ™Χ•ΧŸ Χ›ΧœΧ©Χ”Χ• Χ©Χ‘Χ’ΧœΧœΧ• Χ›ΧŸ Χ Χ Χ‘Χ” ΧœΧ©ΧžΧ•Χ¨ גל Χ”Χ’Χ‘ΧœΧ” ΧžΧ‘Χ•Χ™ΧžΧͺ, או Χ©Χ’Χ“Χ™Χ£ Χ‘Χ›ΧœΧœ ΧœΧ‘Χ˜Χœ אΧͺ Χ”Χ’Χ Χ™Χ™ΧŸ של Χ”Χ–ΧžΧŸ ΧœΧ”Χ¦Χ‘Χ’Χ”.
אנבה ΧœΧ§Χ¨Χ•Χ גל Χ”Χ”Χ’Χ‘ΧœΧ” Χ‘Χ”ΧžΧ©Χš Χ•ΧΧ’Χ“Χ›ΧŸ אם Χ™Χ© ΧœΧ™ ΧͺΧ•Χ‘Χ Χ•Χͺ :)

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ (edited)

Yup i agree i should have more time or maybe unlimited time...then it wud be completely upon the quality of post a steemian has written....nice suggestion...they should workup with some user-interface also...it really becomes difficult for minnow to understand things here.....

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ Reveal Comment

very good suggestion helpful and nice thanks for share.☺

Thanks for this wonderful suggestion. It will surely help, and also I must restreem this

Really agree with you on that one

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

I'm going to look good.

I wish you all the best for your health and happiness :)

I think if the payout extension were for high paying posts it would further skew the distribution of wealth. I think another platform built on the Steem blockchain would be a better solution. Something like Patreon.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

good idea and good post thank you.

Genius Idea πŸ’‘!! Wish this could happen soon...

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Hello sir,
Actually I'm new in steemit and I have not enough knowledge about it, but by your post I learned something,
Actually little change in upvoating system may be good for us.....

Thanks @amiramnoam Sir

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Good to see this post.realy good job.

It seems to me a great proposal, so it is encouraged to write better contents and it would be more just the reward according to the effort and dedication of the writer.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

This also makes resteeming more valuable. Great idea <3

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

the results of a description of a person different even though the title of the same

to find a solution is not easy

I think you know more problems you know better solution
I think you know better than me

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

have a nice day

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

I know exactly what you mean but in my opinion I think it is fine the way it is right now. Like you said many people, who write really long posts, make it in some sort of a series of posts and yeah even though it is true and you most likely are not able to vote for a previous post there is also the option to reward the writer in a followup post related to the series.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ Reveal Comment

Waoh,wat a great post,it help me alot,i really appreciate you.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

nice and steady, please vote me too

Waoh,wat a great post,it really help me alot,i really appreciate ur post.

You raised really a genuine issue on steemit and suggested a solution too. Thanks for raising our voice.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Nice post.Thank you.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

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Good thought, but I think higher $ = extra voting days was a huge issue back in the early days. It allowed the whales to keep earning and earning which a lot of steemers felt was unfair. I don't know the answer to your thought, but I think there is always room for improvement in every platform.

greetings
I have upvote ten of your posts
I beg you also vote my post

@amiramnoam - this is an excellent idea. I do not understand why posts are limited to 7 days. Sure there is a payout limit for votes, but why have an arbitrary limit at all?

Why not have a **rolling vote" that resets every 7 days for the posts. If posts are that good in quality & content then you should be able to continue to vote for the post- even if it auto decreases in steem power.

That's just my opinion. Oh, I've upvoted - resteemed - followed your post. Keep up the quality content.

Thats a very good suggestion Noam, there are some really good genuine post who do not earn and get that recognition as per their worth. A little more bandwidth will give them their due recognition. I never thought of this before but its a brilliant suggestion

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Great post tnx for sharing I just upvoted check out my new post i do abstract art upvote resteem comment @gclipse steemit all the way

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Wow, thanks for this , the suggestion will really help alot

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Maybe one payout at 7 days and another after 90 days.
Or, another after a certain additional threshold has been reached.

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

I think this is especially a problem for dtube, if it ever wants to be a serious competitor to YouTube

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upvoted

Β  Β· Β 7 years agoΒ 

Honestly for me it would be hard to determine or set different criteria for each post.

I think it would be easier if the extension say 1 or 2 more days will be applied across the board.