Tate Murder house, Skelter Helter house that Franklin built listed by Full House Creator Jeff Franklin. Where Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails did much of his album Downward Spiral and took the Original door of Murder house with him when he left! WHY?

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The famous 10050 Cielo Drive Mansion that changed address numbers. . .so they say, looked like this under the first owner, French Actress Michele Morgan when she commissioned the property.

According to All That is Interesting,

Designed by renowned architect Robert Byrd and built by J.F. Wadkins in 1941, the idyllic cottage was set high above California's Beverly Hills Benedict Canyon.

French actress Michèle Morgan commissioned the 3,200 square foot home and 2,000 guest house, which sat on a 3.3-acre plot. Meant to evoke a European country cottage, the front yard featured a well; one publication called her bedroom "utterly French, feminine, and charming."

Also stated in All That is Interesting,
Once a tranquil getaway for Hollywood elite, 10050 Cielo Drive became infamous for the 1969 murders of Sharon Tate and four others.

What it used to look like,

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Note the date in Newspaper.

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If you look it up you will find. . .

where three members of the Manson Family committed the Tate murders in 1969.

The property had a main residence and a guest house. The main house had been occupied by various famous Hollywood and music industry figures. In 1994, both houses were demolished and a new house was constructed on the site, and the street address was changed to 10066 Cielo Drive.

Robert Lee Byrd (1904-1978) was an architect in Los Angeles, California. Most of his buildings and residences are from the 1920s to the 1970s. In his later years he worked together with his architect son Gary Byrd.[1] He was known for his modern "indoor–outdoor" style – along with his use of bird houses embedded in the actual structure. He also designed and built furniture.

Back to 10050 which later was rebuilt and received a New Address 10066 Cielo Drive.
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It was very similar, but not exactly identical, to the house which sat on its own plateau directly below 10050, 10048 Cielo Drive, which was often called the Twin House. They were originally built on land called The Bedrock Properties and were built at the same time.

According to Liquisearch,

The French country style structure was located on 3 acres (1.2 ha) at the end of a cul-de-sac on Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon, an area west of Hollywood in the Santa Monica Mountains that overlooks Beverly Hills and Bel Air. The hillside structure faced east and featured stone fireplaces, beamed ceilings, paned windows, a loft above the living room, a swimming pool and a guest house.

https://www.liquisearch.com/10050_cielo_drive_benedict_canyon_los_angeles

By the end of World War II Morgan had returned to France and in 1946 Lillian Gish moved in with her mother while filming Duel in the Sun.

Past residents included Cary Grant and Dyan Cannon, Henry Fonda, George Chakiris, Mark Lindsay, Paul Revere & The Raiders, Samantha Eggar, Olivia Hussey, Manager Roger Hart with roommate Terry Melcher (the son of actress Doris Day) and Melcher's girlfriend, actress Candice Bergen. The couple split in early 1969, with Melcher relocating to Malibu.

In February 1969, Roman Polanski and his wife Sharon Tate rented the home from owner Rudi Altobelli. On August 9, 1969, the home became the scene of the murders of Tate, Wojciech Frykowski, Abigail Folger, Jay Sebring and Steven Parent at the hands of the Charles Manson "Family". William Garretson, Altobelli's caretaker and an acquaintance of Parent, lived in the guest house behind the main house and was unaware of the murders until the next morning when he was taken into custody by police officers who had arrived at the scene. He was later cleared of all charges.

Owner Rudi Altobelli moved into the house shortly after the murders and resided there for the next 20 years. He had owned the property since the early 1960s. During an interview on ABC's show "20/20", he said that while living there, he felt "safe, secure, love and beauty." He sold the property for 1.6 million dollars.

The final resident of the original house was the musician Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails. Reznor moved into the house in the early 1990s and had a recording studio built inside. This studio, dubbed Pig (sometimes called Le Pig) in a reference to the fact that one of the murderers had written "Pig" in Tate's blood on the front door of the house during the murders, was the site of recording sessions for Nine Inch Nails' 1992 EP Broken and 1994 album The Downward Spiral as well as Marilyn Manson's 1994 Reznor-produced debut album Portrait of an American Family. Reznor moved out of the house in December 1993, later explaining that "there was too much history in that house for me to handle." He insists that he did not know that the address was the site of the Manson murders when he bought the place.

Reznor made a statement about working in the Tate house during a 1997 interview with Rolling Stone:

While I was working on Downward Spiral, I was living in the house where Sharon Tate was killed. Then one day I met her sister. It was a random thing, just a brief encounter. And she said: 'Are you exploiting my sister's death by living in her house?' For the first time, the whole thing kind of slapped me in the face. I said, 'No, it's just sort of my own interest in American folklore. I'm in this place where a weird part of history occurred.' I guess it never really struck me before, but it did then. She lost her sister from a senseless, ignorant situation that I don't want to support. When she was talking to me, I realized for the first time, 'What if it was my sister?' I thought, 'Fuck Charlie Manson.' I went home and cried that night. It made me see there's another side to things, you know?

Reznor took the front door of the house with him when he moved out, installing it at Nothing Studios, his new recording studio/record label headquarters in New Orleans.

Yes. . .That front door!
Michelle Morgan said to be first owner,

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Find more info here in comments of this report that goes over Maye Musks connection to Charles Manson,
https://steemit.com/elonmusk/@artistiquejewels/history-of-elon-musk-maye-musk-and-his-grandfather-the-technocrat-joshua-haldeman-who-was-a-chiropractor-and-flew-all-over-the

Do you find this interesting considering. . .

Nine Inch Nails Why is this child in the middle of a video for adults? NIN-Sim NIN Lacks Deal

Who was Edward Leedskalnin?

Nine Inch Nails (NIN) are their song titles and videos predictive programming?

The house Reznor purchased was the Sharon Tate home where the Manson Murders occurred and Trent Reznor did some recording there.

Here is the Today article which contains the video I cover with the Question, Why is a child in the middle of this video filled with organs, torture machines, a monkey on a cross, adult themes?
https://www.today.com/parents/parents-night-school-awkward-trent-reznor-t114355

I'm serious, if anyone has a reason or feels it can be justified Please let me know.

All reported in this video,
https://www.bitchute.com/video/z8y349ew6BRl/

How about this. . .the change of address and what was left?

In 1994, the owner demolished the house and replaced it with a new mansion called Villa Bella with a new street address of 10066 Cielo Drive. The current owner of the property is Hollywood producer Jeff Franklin. The property today does not resemble the residence at the time of the Tate murders in any way. The only remnant from the original property that still exists is a lone telephone pole which Manson family member Tex Watson climbed to cut the telephone wires to the house.

Source,
https://www.liquisearch.com/10050_cielo_drive_benedict_canyon_los_angeles

So Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski move into 10050 Cielo drive in February 1969, Tate murders take place on August 9, 1969.

Brian Hugh Warner (born January 5, 1969), known professionally as Marilyn Manson.

Started a band with. . .
Scott Mitchell Putesky (April 28, 1968 – October 22, 2017),[2] also known as Daisy Berkowitz, was an American musician, songwriter, composer, visual artist, and record producer. He was the co-founder of the rock band Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids (later shortened to just Marilyn Manson.

Putesky and Marilyn Manson met at a Fort Lauderdale club called The Reunion Room and later at a local after-party in December 1989. The two created the concept of Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids poking fun at American media hypocrisy and its obsessions with serial killers and beautiful women. For this act, he took the stage name of Daisy Berkowitz, devised by mixing the names of The Dukes Of Hazzard character Daisy Duke and serial killer David Berkowitz.

In 1996, creative differences with Manson caused Putesky to leave the studio before Antichrist Superstar was completed. Manson had begun to work more with the other members of the band, and the dark environment of Antichrist Superstar's production led to Berkowitz being muscled out of the group.

. . .primarily seeking a live band to perform his Three Ton Gate material. In the meantime, he successfully sued Marilyn Manson for what he claimed were unpaid royalties for his contributions to Antichrist Superstar.

In July 2010, Putesky officially joined electro-punk band Kill Miss Pretty after collaborating with them on their single "Judy Garland".

What's wrong with these people?

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Does this remind you of some sick posters and bands they threw right in people's faces along with their artwork at a certain pizza restaurant they Claimed was family friendly then had people like Megyn Kelly throw shade on it?

What's wrong with these people?

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Check out the lyrics,
"She's Not My Girlfriend"

Her heart is in my hand
It shivers like a toad
She tries to understand the
Tiny lump that's down
Inside her throat it goes
Suck suck
Her face is inside out
An open book report
I read what she's about and she's
Filled with words that hurt it goes
Suck suck
Her head is in my lap
It twists and coughs and sings
Her hair is in my grasp
It hangs and swings like
Swollen strings she just
Suck suck
Sometimes I want her in
Sometimes I want her out
My perception of sin
Is filled with pain and fear
And doubt
She is not my girlfriend
I'm not who you think I am
Her clothes are on the ground
A crumpled rainbow mass
She's scattered all around
And she's scattered now
Like broken glass it goes
Suck suck
Sometimes I want her in
Sometimes I want her out
My perception of sin
Is filled with pain and fear
And doubt
She is not my girlfriend
I'm not who you think I am

Guess which side and who defends it all?
Sadly some of them [not just the singers, I'm talking their fans] have children now and are dead set on exposing their children to the same sickness! They walk among us. #ThesePeopleAreSICK in more ways than one!

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The original home located at 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon, Los Angeles, California

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Do you remember what California used to be?
Who wanted to go from Arizona to California to create a studio?

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Pushing the Occult and Vampirism early in the movie industry before there was even Talk in Hollywood! Theda Bara and other 'Vamps' with symbolism like Marina Abramovic's Art.

https://steemit.com/occult/@artistiquejewels/pushing-the-occult-and-vampirism-early-in-the-movie-industry-before-there-was-even-talk-in-hollywood-theda-bara-and-other-vamps

How about that Getty and the story of Jean Paul Getty and what he was known for?
What was in his house in Tulsa, Oklahoma?
#WhatLiesBeneath?

You can check it out by scrolling through here,
A video report is also available for those who prefer to listen while doing work and chores.

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Old Hollywood and the homes which never lost their luster to Elites. Tunnels between a producer and actor's home Verified

https://steemit.com/tunnels/@artistiquejewels/old-hollywood-and-the-homes-which-never-lost-their-luster-to-elites-tunnels-between-a-producer-and-actor-s-home-verified

Current google map [Keyhole]

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Talked about the twin house, what was on the Other side of 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon?

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What does it look like today with claims all was rebuilt and address changed to 10066? WHY the change?

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Amenities include a movie theater, spa, gym, hair salon, billiards room and bar.
Built in 1996, the Cielo Estate occupies the plot previously known as 10050 Cielo Drive, where five of the Manson Family cult's most notorious murders took place.
In 1969, actress Sharon Tate, teenager Steven Parent, Folger coffee heiress Abigail Folger, aspiring writer Wojciech Frykowski and hairstylist Jay Sebring were killed by three members of the cult, who had broken into the property, which was owned by Tate and her film director husband, Roman Polanski.

Which is interesting because. . .

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Find more inside of here,
Remember when Roman Polanski raped the 13yo, said it was consensual Hollywood Elitists and many from the DNC supported him? France NWO harbored him, now the Patriots there are fed up!

https://steemit.com/politics/@artistiquejewels/remember-when-roman-polanski-raped-the-13yo-said-it-was-consentual-hollywood-elitists-and-many-from-the-dnc-supported-him-france

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According to CNN,

Franklin, whose other credits include "Hangin' with Mr. Cooper" and "Malcolm & Eddie," paid just over $6 million when he bought the unfinished property two decades ago, the Wall Street Journal reports. The 66-year-old star upgraded it significantly with the help of architect Richard Landry.

Franklin has This to say about the Tate murders and CNN put this photo in,

The Inglewood-born screenwriter told the publication that the connection to the Manson murders was "irrelevant" and "ancient history," adding: "It's had absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever."
The Cielo Estate sale is being handled by brothers Josh and Matt Altman, who are best known for appearing in Bravo! show "Million Dollar Listing Los Angeles."

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/entertainment/full-house-manson-estate-intl-scli/index.html

Now let's take a look at the builder of the original property that was located on that land.

His name was J.F. Wadkins

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Born in McGilpan County, IL, in 1895, Wadkins resided with his grandmother, aunts and parents at 1517 South 2nd Street in Springfield, IL, by 1900. (See Ancestry.com, Source CitationYear: 1900; Census Place: Springfield Ward 4, Sangamon, Illinois; Page: 17; Enumeration District: 0095; FHL microfilm: 1240343, accessed 01/28/2019.)

Ten years later, he lived with his 33-year-old mother in Pleasant View, ND, where she lived, according to the US Census, as a "homesteader." Her mother had divorced his father, George Wadkins, by this time. (See Ancestry.com, Source Citation Year: 1910; Census Place: Pleasant View, Stanley, South Dakota; Roll: T624_1488; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0102; FHL microfilm: 1375501, accessed 01/28/2019.)

Wadkins resided in an apartment building at 728 Market Street in Tacoma, WA, in 1920, where he worked as an electrician for the telephone company (perhaps Western Electric) there. (See Ancestry.com, Source Citation Year: 1920; Census Place: Tacoma Ward 2, Pierce, Washington; Roll: T625_1936; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 262, accessed 01/28/2019.)

He had moved to Hettinger, ND, by 06/1917. (See Ancestry.com, Source Citation Registration State: North Dakota; Registration County: Adams; Roll: 1819402, accessed 01/28/2019.)

He and Opal lived at 8944 Burton Way in Los Angeles, CA, in 1936. (See Ancestry.com, Source Citation California State Library; Sacramento, California; Great Register of Voters, 1900-1968, accessed 01/28/2019.) By1938, they resided at 8101 Langdon Avenue in Los Angeles, CA.

Voting records indicated that John and Opal Wadkins lived at 129 South Bowling Green Way in the West Los Angeles neighborhood of Los Angeles in 1942.

Wadkins died at the age of 48 and was buried in Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, CA.

From Ancestors,

When John Franklin Wadkins was born on 17 August 1895, in Palmyra, Macoupin, Illinois, United States, his father, George T. Wadkins, was 24 and his mother, Bertha Solomon, was 18. He married Opal Lillie Landon on 13 October 1926, in California, United States. He lived in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States in 1930 and Beverly Hills Judicial Township, Los Angeles, California, United States in 1940. He died on 4 November 1943, at the age of 48, and was buried in Glendale, Los Angeles, California, United States.

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/KHY5-C8H/john-franklin-wadkins-1895-1943

He married Opal Lillie Landon (born 11/18/1906 in Asher, OK-d. 1226/1990 in Logan, UT) in 1926. Opal worked as an interior designer in 1942.

After John Wadkins's death in 1943, Opal remarried five years later to Walter Augustus Vogel (1902-1964).

His World War I draft registration card indicated that Wadkins had a medium height and build, with light blue eyes and hair. Wadkins claimed exemption from military service due to being needed as a telephone switchboard installer.

His World War II draft registration information listed him as standing 5-feet, 9-and-1/2-inches tall, and weighing 170 pounds and having green eyes.

According to Los Angeles County voting records, Wadkins voted Democratic in 1936, and Republican in 1938. Both Wadkins and his wife were registered Republicans in 1942.

Where have we heard a similar name to Augustus Vogel before?

In 2008

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https://picryl.com/media/dr-augustus-vogel-left-from-the-office-of-the-oceanographer-of-the-navy-meets-cca0a8

Interesting. . .

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Interesting. . .grandmother of J.F. Wadkins same birth month and day as Michele Morgan, who commissioned J.F. Wadkins.

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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/33172527/sara-watkins

I remembered as one of the articles I read about her history said despite living to the age of 96, she technically only had 24 birthdays due to being born on 29 February.

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I've also seen the name here, no not the same one, just interesting.

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https://academic-sexual-misconduct-database.org/person/thomas-vogel

It IS interesting how many of these people change their last name.
Wonder what's up with that?

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Just interesting!

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Architect of property when Morgan commissioned it was Robert Byrd. So the above is interesting as J.F. Wadkins was the builder.

Morgan played in movies like Port of Shadows, Stormy Waters, The Heart of a Nation, Passage to Marseille, The Chase, The Fallen Idol, To the Eyes of Memory, The Fighting Gladiator, the Glass Castle, The Strange Madame X, the Naked Heart, The Seven Deadly Sins, The Moment of Truth, The Proud and the Beautiful, Love, Soldiers and Women, Obsession, Napoleon, Marguerite of the Night, The Vintage, There's Always a Price Tag, The Mirror Has Two Faces, Girls for the Summer, 1959 Menschen im Hotel, Three Faces of Sin, Crime Does Not Pay, Be Careful Ladies, Web of Fear, Marked Eyes, The Last Steps, The Scapegoat, Tell me Whom To Kill, Lost Command, The Diary of an Innocent Boy, Cat and Mouse, Le Tiroir secret, Everybody's Fine

#TateMurders, #SharonTate, #RomanPolanski, #CharlesMansion, #MayeMusk, #MicheleMorgan, #Hollywood, #RobertByrd, #JFWadkins, #NineInchNails, #Leedalskin, #TrentReznor, #DownwardSpiral, #Pedogate, #CieloDrive, #BenedictCanyon, #HelterSkelter

Sources

https://allthatsinteresting.com/10050-cielo-drive

Sources

https://allthatsinteresting.com/10050-cielo-drive

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