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Excellent post, Rok. Thank you. I've been quite frustrated myself at times with what many in the voluntaryist / anarchist community promote as "truth" because people use those labels to describe me as well. Often, when I engage or try to dig a little deeper, I find inconsistent epistemologies combined with insecurities because their "truths" have become part of their identities.
I agree, we all need to wake up, grow up, and skill up. Not everything is a conspiracy. If we want to be taken seriously by the world with our attempts to improve it, then we need to speak truthfully about the obvious conspiracies which no one can factually deny, such as the belief in fiat currency. This is why cryptocurrency is gaining so much traction. The conspiracy of central banking and fiat currency has a long and clear history and can be discussed rationally. Yes, there may be details which are fringe and lead off in unproductive tangents, but the core concept is simple. Money exists and has value because we collectively conspire together and believe it does. When that belief can be manipulated, then we can't control our own store of value. We should focus on real issues like this instead of wasting time on things which are really just childish.
At the same time, I think it's important to have understanding, compassion, patience, and an open mind. I've believed a lot of silly things in my life as well, and I'm sure I still believe some now also. I hope in the future to chuckle at myself now because that means I'm growing in wisdom and understanding.
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Thing is - using the fiat situation as an example - there are layers upon layers of depth to planetary stories like these...
While i could simply agree with you on the "banking conspiracy" - perhaps at another level, it can't even be seen as a conspiracy at all. As someone else commented here - mankind is probably too stupid to pull off such grand "conspiracies" as they are proposed to be such...
What is missing from many of these theories is the consideration of human evolution's pace. People involved in setting up the banking systems hundred of years ago, and even decades ago, were living in a different world with nowhere near the access to as much info as we do now, nor was their consciousness anywhere in the same ballpark - not to say that as any sort of putdown, but a fact of matter.
At the time, the banking system solved a problem and provided valuable solutions. Just like the doctor who created the labotomy won a nobel prize because at the time, it was a breakthrough - even though as we've evolved in consciousness and capabilities, we might look at it very differently.
Hence, none of it may have been the type of diabolical "conspiracy" - irregardless of what Jekyll island facts might be brought to the table. Simply, it might have all just been one phase in a natural developmental process of human evolution - far less dramatic than our sensationalistic cultures of the 20th century have trained our minds to think like.
Aside from that tangent, I agree with your comment and respect the maturity of your outlook.
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Sure, they believed what they were doing was "good" and "right" (as did Hitler -- Woot! Godwin's law achieved!) but it was still technically a conspiracy based on the historical facts we have:
Granted, their goal was to make it lawful, which they succeeded in, despite the previous failures of the First Bank of the United States and the Second Bank of the United States.
That said, I completely agree with this:
Evolution is always moving forward. It's not directed or controlled, it just is. Technology, even all the way back to the invention of cooking, is what makes us human. We're not going to escape that anytime soon.
At one point, some argue, rape was an evolutionary strategy. That doesn't make it right. I think we can acknowledge the failures of the past even if those failures, as we see them today, brought us to where we are. The hope for the future, I think, is collectively improving our epistemology so we can accurately know what is in order to make better decisions about what we want to be.
Based on my understanding of human psychology, biology, and neuroscience, I think what most of us want to be is free.
Thanks again for a great discussion.
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lol, oh man... at first, all I saw of this in the replies page was the "Sure, they believed what they were doing was "good" and "right" (as did Hitler -- Woot!..." and was getting prepared to write,
"ah, good ol' first world privileges - so easily thinking every person's decision at any point in time was so clearly black-or-white..."
and then, of course, I saw the rest of this. humbled.
your argumentative skills are on-point.
I appreciate your breakdown of the conspiracy definition, going the extra length to clarify the viewpoint.
indeed, most of us likely deeply desire freedom. I suppose it takes time to achieve, and experience in the contrast to summon the motivation to take matters into one's own hands to seize that freedom.
t'is quite the ride, all this evolution.
and t'is quite an interesting time, that we're probably closer to that freedom than ever before...
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"I think what most of us want to be is free."
I concur.
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It does seem that pendulum is swinging the other way...while I was looking in the other direction. I we could detach from the labels, I think everything would flow and unity will happen naturally....Call me Pollyanna, but things just "feel" different. Hope's returning.
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For the best?
Have you been watching any news for literally the past 5+ years? Our governments have thousands of computer science experts and have likely spent trillions of dollars over the last ten years and they can't even keep from getting hacked and having their own secure systems from being compromised. The same goes for many of the worlds top tech companies who also have plenty of resources to keep their products and systems secure. They can't be entrusted to maintain 100% security nor can they be trusted to not be actively exploiting security.
And you think it's smart to interface your brain with a chip? No thank you. You couldn't give me all the money and freedom in the world to take that risk. When a tech company has a 20 year provable track record of 100% secure systems, then I might consider tech implants. I ain't holdin my breath though.
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You are right. This author of the post sees the benefits and ignores the risks. However there is a strong possibility that brain implants ( and other implants ) will be used voluntarily and will eventually be something you are "forced" to use because otherwise you will be at severe economic and social disadvantage.
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Excellent post!
I don't think systems will ever be 100% secure!
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Illuminati confirmed... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Just kidding. I understand what you are saying about going too deep as well as the benefits of technology. The microchip brain implant is kind of freakish plus Hemp/THC oil turns off Parkinson’s disease plus is more of a cure and natural remedy allowing body to heal rather than a bypass mechanism.
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show me a video of a Parkinson's patient using hemp oil with such a clear black-and-white, in-your-face, undeniable result such as this guy's, and then we'll make comparisons...
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Okay, in this link is a YouTube video that you can check out if you like ⤵️
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Here one of cannabis treatment to Autism self aggression. ⤵️
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Not to discount the potential of the medicine in this case, though this isn't a valid response, as is a completely different disease, and only one case.
Granted, I'm for the use of medical marijuana by those for whom it works. Though it's no different than the snake oil salesmen to suggest it is the cure-all for everybody and that other alternative treatments may not be more effective or preferable for different individuals.
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I replied first with a video of CBD helping with Parkinson’s disease. Afterwards I replied again with the one with Autism. I don't know why the one for Autism was put first, I figure that it would post in timely order.
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ohhh... my apologies - somehow, the first never actually came to my attention and I only saw the second via my replies page.
holy shit, those are some pretty significant results with the Parkinson's patient!
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It is all good... CBD is no joke. Supposedly it helps with a variety of physical ailments and mental disorders as well. I am assuming that is one of the main reason marijuana was/is illegal for so many years, when at first it was illegal not to grow it, if you owned a farms, which was pretty much everyone back in those days.
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there is absolute proof of CBD helping neurological disorders and I am one of the people that it helps.
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for sure, I wasn't implying there wasn't or it doesn't. I'm all for its full legalization and use as a medicine by those who chose. though it's probably foolish to think it is the one-size-fits-all solution for every person and every disease - which there are many who do.
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its true but neither is brain stimulation which has actually been around for a long time but reserved only for people who are helped by no other treatment. If you can take a pill that works that is usually the best option.
Implants mean Brain Surgery. We make jokes "this isn't brain surgery!" well this is :)
We are talking about high risk and easily $100,000 to get an implant. So there would need to be medical breakthroughs as well.
Don't get me wrong, there are some use cases that would be very tempting but if an external system could do it I would go with that.
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good post. we are in the world of possibilities, great things are still coming. keep it coming.
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I think people are not scared of a microchip in the brain to control disease but a microchip that you will need to buy and sell, that has all you personal, banking, health information etc and be tracked everywhere you go.
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Yes, big difference.
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Irrational fear of technology is just that: Irrational.
There's nothing truthfully wrong with an implant or a device that can transfer knowledge or abilities between users.
However a fear of such a thing is not irrational in the society in which we live, where almost everything is controlled by sociopathic capitalists who only have their own interests in mind.
To give them direct access into your brain potentially is like going to a FBI building and trying to buy a child-sex slave. You'd have to be fucking bonkers to do that.
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Ethereum related to brain chips and the mark of the beast!?!?! I never thought of it like that...
Quickly put a buy order in for $100k more of Ethereum. Now that I know the devil is on my side -- I can't lose!
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lol. :-D
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On the topic of GMO food, at least question why it has been banned in so many countries already, no tin foil hat required when it comes to your health and safety.
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Do what you want , implant that tech . It's your free choice , the tree of knowledge . The tree of life is my choice .
I have no fear , i am free and know nothing , all i have is info , tru or false .
Just don't force me to follow the wrong tree .
THC CBD has the same effect , false or tru ? ill give it a try .
peace .
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As replied to another comment - show me a video of THC/CBD having the same black-white effects... am sure it might work for some patients, though until can provide concrete undeniable proof of effectiveness as this video...
And of course, yes - to each theie own choice of treatments.
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As real as any other to me , just info tru or false ?
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Many ways to skin a cat...
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Most we know comes at us tru a flickering square , is it all real ?
We don't know what we don't know until we fysicaly have experienced it .
I let the cat to be , i go kill the white rabit and eat that ;-)
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This article Is propaganda, Rothschild's own the FED, CIA and the US Government which Is a Corporation and plan a New World Order, this Is fact. The Cabal Is a Roman Empire that transplanted Itself In Bath England, about 100AD an agreement was made early this century between, London ( Rothschild's )the financial center, Vatican, ( Jesuits ) the spiritual center and Washington D.C ( Rockefeller's ) military center.
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LOL! 😂🤣😅
Yes, I am a secret double-agent for the NWO. Just read all my articles from the last year and it will be blatantly clear to you that I am merely a pusher of elitist propaganda.
Lol. OMG. That just made my day. 😂
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Anyone that uses the term conspiracy theorist, which was Invented, by the CIA, to discredit anyone who questioned the assassination of JFK, Is obviously pushing propaganda. Just like Wikipedia which was Invented as a control system by the same CIA, which Is run by the Rothschild Talmud worshiping pedophiles, who practice the ritual sacrifice of people.
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of course, you are 100% correct, obviously.
just go read all my stories over the last year. you'll see for yourself that I am the reincarnation of Satan himself because everything I push is "propaganda," according to your definition, as was probably learned on YouTube - because every bit of information that comes out on YouTube is 100% factual and truthful because it is not propaganda according to your definition. 😂
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The fact that you resort to discrediting and no facts and use CIA terms really speaks for Itself, you are trying to protect evil by doing this and also attempting to cover up the mark of the beast and the attempted enslavement of humanity, because that's what the technology Is being used for.
Nagalase Intentionally Put Into Vaccines For Depopulation
Scientists and holistic doctors have recently discovered Nagalase In many different vaccines, which spurs tumor growth by suppressing the bodies Immune system. It Is certain that these Nagalase molecules have been deliberately Inserted In to the vaccines to push up the numbers of people developing cancer, significantly Increasing the pharmaceutical Industry's cancer drugs profits. Recently 30+ holistic doctors have been murdered for discovering nagalase In vaccines, healthy children have been found to have had high levels of this In their bodies, most likely administered through Injections. Nagalase Inhibits GcMAF.
One of the doctors that discovered the link between GcMAF and how It fights disease, was using this to treat his cancer patients, he died on On June 19, 2015, Dr. Jeff Bradstreet who apparently shot himself, was almost certainly murdered by the Cabal of criminals who are behind this conspiracy.
Human GcMAF holds great promise in the treatment of various illnesses including cancer, autism, chronic fatigue and possibly Parkinson’s. Since 1990, 59 research papers have been published on GcMAF, 20 of these pertaining to the treatment of cancer.
Dr Bradstreet was an alternative autism specialist and is widely regarded as a pioneer in the naturopathic field. He was using GcMAF and successfully treating dying cancer patients. To understand what put him on the deadly radar of the U.S. FDA and the pharmaceutical companies was that GcMAF has shown the ability to completely reverse autism and cancer without the use of chemotherapy, radiation, or surgery.
GcMAF (Globulin component Macrophage Activating Factor) is not a drug, but a naturally occurring compound produced in the human body. GcMAF was being produced in Europe and Dr. Bradstreet was using it with his patients. He was conducting clinical experiments the results of which were published in scientific medical journals. (The European company that manufactured GcMAF was shut down in July 2015.)
Nagalase Inhibits something called GcMAF. The ability of GcMAF to do its normal job can be inhibited by the presence of a protein called alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase or nagalase for short. Nagalase is made by all cancer cells and viruses (HIV, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, influenza, herpes, Epstein-Barr virus, and others). Nagalase blocks production of GcMAF, thus preventing the immune system from doing its job. By using injections of GcMAF, one can boost the immune system to destroy the cancer and virus. It’s the most natural cure in the world and other countries are already using it, even for pets.
In the course of his research, Dr. Bradstreet discovered that the levels of nagalase are elevated in children with autism. The result of the immune suppression caused by nagalase is seen in digestive disorders, sensory overload, and numerous types of processing dysfunction in the brain. Increased levels of nagalase are associated with higher levels of autistic symptoms. Nagalase is like Attila the Hun in the amount of destruction it can wreck on the body.
Nagalase is not something children are born with. This puzzled Bradstreet and his colleagues (the other dead doctors). If autistic children don’t have cancer or viral infections, which correlates with nagalase production, then how did it get into the bodies of infants and young children?
vaccinations
Using nagalase blood testing, they learned that children receiving vaccinations had a super abnormally high concentration of nagalase. It became clear that nagalase was being introduced into the body through vaccinations. For what reason is still unknown—perhaps population control? Could this be why vaccinations are now being made mandatory–no exceptions allowed?
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and BTW - you completely discredited your own argument...
I never questioned the assassination of JFK.
Hence, I'm not obviously pushing propaganda.
I was about to congratulate you on outstmarting an entire elite cabal of global networks by regurgitating YouTube content propagated by YouTube "truthers". But guess that woulda been too quick, as I completely missed where you totally negated your own argument.
BTW, if you go to the actual definition of propaganda:
much of the content you've been studying fits the definition as well. propaganda doesn't just come from governments. it can come from quackpots stuck in low-theta pushing their own agendas who've jumped to conclusions due to cognitive bias and report facts in the context of storylines.
as such, you fit the definition of a propaganda-pusher far more accurately than I do, within the context of this entire conversation.
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What I'm speaking Is Truth, I asked Jesus to lead me to the real truth of what was going on and since then my Intuition has guided me to the Truth. Here Is some more from my research.
https://steemit.com/freedom/@jjyeshua/bbc-rothschild-controlled-propaganda
https://steemit.com/politics/@jjyeshua/rothschilds-supreme-court-of-israel
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well surely something as solid and tangible as "intuition" could never, ever be wrong or influenced by biased viewpoints, YouTube's suggested videos algorithm, cognitive bias, or anything else - especially after asking Jesus.
I guess I must have done something horribly evil, cuz he still didn't deliver on that Ferrari I asked him for.
Or maybe I am the devil. after all, I do live in the apartment number 216 - which is 6x6x6. Fuck.
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Awesome perspective, Rok!
If the human body is a fractal of the universe and if the cells of the body are the galaxies and the atoms are the star systems, then perhaps what many people are perceiving as external "Human Imposition" is really just dysfunction within the human body itself?
Maybe what people call "The God Entity" or the "Alter EGO of The Universal Creator" is really just the default experience of the human body when it's still operating in a survival state?
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hey Joshua, cool to see ya made it over here to Steemit!
hope all's doing well in Hawaii... or looks like you're in Mexico now?
and this looks like a pretty awesome perspective as well...
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Aloha! Yeah, I've been traveling throughout Mexico with my future wife since Q2 of this year. We'll probably stay here for a few more months and then switch continents and visit southeast Asia.
Congrats on the happy wife, happy life : )
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Thanks, and congrats on the engagement. :-)
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This is a really well done post! It's intriguing to me how far science has come. I'm totally amazed at what was going on with that gentleman that had Parkinson's Disease. I wish him well and all others that try this device. I work with sick people, it would be nice to give them a resolution to their ailments!
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for all that can be said or written about potential treatments, I found that particular video to be quite a powerful illustration of exactly how big of a positive impact such tech can have. so black-and-white. hard to argue how life-changing stuff like this is...
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Definitely!
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And let it be nailed!!
I reccommend reading The Age of Doubt and RAW Food and the Psych Ward. Think it will talk to you ❤
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You should check out Grindhouse Wetware! They're in my old place of residence, Pittsburgh. Fully gunning for free human elective induction into cyborg-hood! Lovely piece. Keep it up.
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Evolve.
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My thing is any person such as yourself can see certain things and hmmmm this is not good. But....what are we to do? What can be done? So...we try to protect ourselves financially and preparation wise and be aware....not losing your mind but understanding....and definitely not hung up with being right.
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Not clear at all where you're speaking to in the conversation...
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Let me try again...we don't know what will happen in the future. We don't know if what you share will be as you say...nor can we predict what leader we will have for the next 5 yrs. I do know there will be change. I don't like the discussion of robotics/transhumanism and what they means to humanity. Hope that helps....just my opinion.
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good post bro real its amazing thank you for share
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I lack the data to provide an educated response. I had no idea this shit was out there.
I'd guess from his accent AJ is an Aussie or Kiwi so maybe their healthcare system runs better than the one here in the US. I don't know if that kind of life-changing medicine could compete with Erectile Dysfunction for R&D funding.
My thanks to you for acknowledging your own intellectual growth, I'd like to think that comes with age but it doesn't appear to be guaranteed. I'm 55 & followed all the crackpot conspiracy theory shit too in my younger days.
At some point I realized that the human race in general is too stupid to be able to carry out those kind of conspiracies without completely fucking them up.
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Lol. This actually sums it up brilliantly. :-)
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Although I know that whole moon landing thing was done on a soundstage in the desert. ;-)
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We created robots but who created us ? aliens ? may be we are their experiment .. they see us and we can't see them ! they are more intellegent and powerful than us ! may be aliens don't know the reason of their existance ... no one know the main cause of big bang and what was before that ? ...
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;-)
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Thoughts!
Great post buddy!
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I wouldn't be so quick to knock tin foil hats, they shield a decent amount of radiation
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One on top, one on the nuts, aluminum foil underarmour suit... sounds safe to me. Lol.
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now we're talkin
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Whoops, almost fell off the edge of the flat earth there for a second, caught me off guard with this post. Once I hop in my lunar scooter from my fake moon walk landing shoot, I'll roll over and we can look up at the Deep Space 9 Moon station and watch the battlecruisers depart from my telescope, you gotta love some good conspiracy theories :)
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I love free speech, which should be encouraged. But in saying that, This transhumanism path is it really the right way to go? Have we really lost touch with ourselves and believe we need to intervene. What if all these diseases are caused by us from how much we are fucking up the earth and if we just followed natural law our health would return, anyone that believes that these diseases are just random need a reality check. Nature is self sustaining and if we align ourselves with nature we can reverse a lot western world diseases. in some cases transhumanism can benefit us but to rely on things in the long term is not sustainable. just like when you break your leg you use a crutch to help you till your body naturally heals itself. I implore anyone to look deeper into how much our body can do if we let it, through fasting and resting.
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easy to say when you're not living with a debilitating disease.
I understand where you're coming from, and agree to a degree. though not everything is so simple.
yes, it'd be ideal to prioritize restoration of order in alignment with natural law. though, who knows how long that'll take. and in the meantime, there are alot of people working on other projects like this that are helping people while other solutions aren't here yet. so even if these become obsolete in time, good is being served through their development...
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really loved ur post , checkout mine you might like it https://steemit.com/science/@whitedolphin/forefront-consciousness-and-healing-science-research-reports-in-the-field-8-9-july-2017-conference-encinitas-california
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Nice to see that there is a scientific minded community here. I was beginning to become afraid that everyone on Steemit were flouride avoiding, chemtrail fearing, anti-vaxers. What brought you around in the end? My mom seems to be falling off the deep end and I don't know how to talk to her about it.
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While I totally agree with you that chips in your brain are nothing to be afraid of themselves and can be a great help (especially as you mnetioned the brain pacemakers for parkinson's disease) you have to make sure to create an inert system.
You have to make sure no one can access it from a distance so don't even think about implanting a chip with something like WiFi or Bluetooth and as it is with pacemakers for the heart you probably also don't want to get into an MRI if the device creator did not specifically design it to be resistant to an electromagnetic impulse like that.
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eh, I don't want radiowaves passing through my brain 24/7. I think this post misses the mark. The world doesn't need more technology it needs the right technology. This is one of those techs it doesn't need.
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tell that to the Parkinson's patient...
and, you already have satellite and radiowaves passing through your brain 24/7. you think your radio picks them all up but you have a magic shield around your head protecting it from them?
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I did not know
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I had no idea that was possible. That's amazing. It's kinda nice when you move from being a crazy theorist to a more down to earth theorist. Seems like one sees everything as evil coming from a place of combat and the other has accepted there's a balance and point of view to everything meaning nothing is truly good or evil.
But then again I'm just an old crackpot myself :-)
Great read as always homie, I learned something new today!
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Ya i seen Elon Musk talking about doing this with his Neuralink. It reminds me of an episode of black mirror where people get laughed at for not being microchipped, and its 'weird' to not have the chip. It was an interesting watch, all of black mirror is really.. I believe there are half-truths to many conspiracy theories myself, but they take little truths, and build tall tales. Anyway, I'm excited to. We will see what the future holds. and maybe, just maybe. In order to beat the robots. We need to become half robot as well!!
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that is a good show. quite some powerful, haunting reflection in it...
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Yes dark. going on real. really gives you food for thought though.. That and Rick and Mortys.. those shows are full of interesting concepts that are fun to watch play out! Except Black Mirror left me sad sometimes, and I could always just laugh Rick and Morty off..
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Well I can't say I agree 100% with your blog I do agree with a lot of it. One does have to be careful with what we fear and what others try to pass off to us as fear. I believe in being fearful of the government as I had to watch my fathers business be torn apart by government regulations. But at the same time when he got older the government looked after him. Maybe a better way of saying it was the government destroyed his way of life and the tax payers looked after him when he was ill! Upvoted. Great blog.
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a key distinction I'd make in response to that - what belief in the necessity of being fearful of the government serve?
or... why waste energy and cloud perception with fear, when one could simply have a clear conscious outlook on the fact of reality that there are aspects to government to be consciously aware of and plan diligently and strategically to ensure successful navigation where around their obstacles might lie?
or, no need for fear at all. and believing their a need for one might only dumb one down, diverting focus from what's needed to engage effectively with the realities of a situation with full-acknowledgement any entity has its positives and negatives - and the negatives may be successfully dealt with far more powerfully from a stance of neutrality and strategic insight than fearful belief.
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Well I guess you have a point
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I only against any implants which might be installed against somebody's will
My opinion related to all kind of human bodies: 3d and all thins, including all aspects in other dimentions
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Great article, you got my upvote save. If you are interested in science and investing in it, feel free to check out my articles too.
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I'm with you. We need to not always fear technology or the giant steps it's taken us. But it is important that we question everything. Questioning helps us to keep things in line and also helps us to make great strides toward the future. It's just important to not go "tin foil hat" on everything! Interesting post!
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Were much less evoled than our great ancestors...
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Mankind's Evolution
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This post talks to me a lot because I work 40 hours a week with schizophrenic people and I should say 75% of them believe in those conspiracy theories.... They talk about it all night long , sometimes almost convincing me of some things haha, Don't worry I don't get into it...
But the internet is such a resourceful place for them I sometimes would like to turn it off!
Instead I do group discussion where I get the facts straight for them and they choose to believe me or not..,
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Now that says alot... :-)
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Communist luck up free minded people in schizophrenic clinices and feed them mood altoring
drugs.
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Live by example start from youself your loved one and implant chip.
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I will say if people want to implant chips in their brain that is perfectly fine. Just count me out. I'm very happy to keep my brain chip free but what everyone else does with their body is none of my business. Sorry, I just don't trust big corporations or government that much.
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