In 1954, in Haneda airport, Tokyo, Japan, a French-speaking man, approached the passport desk with papers that were unfamiliar to the airport officials. He claimed to come from a country named Taured, apparently becoming very distressed when he couldn't find it on a map.
He had an unfamiliar passport, although it had stamps from countries all over the world, officials did not know of the country the man claimed to come from. In the end, they put him up in a hotel by the airport, till they could figure out what to do with him.
The next morning, when they went to check on him, the guards, who had been outside the room all night, opened the door, to find him gone. No trace was found of him, and till this day, remains a mystery.
Some people have linked the mysterious incident to the Mandela Effect, the phenomenon that some people claim to experience.
The Mandela Effect is a parallel universe theory, in which sufferers say, that for some reason, they are transitioning from one reality to another. They claim that their evidence for this, is placed in the memories of popular events.
In fact, the Mandela Effect is so-called, because a lady named Fiona Broome, who calls herself a, psychic consultant, discovered that there were other people in the world, who shared a particular memory with her.
Broome, and thousands of others, claim they remember Nelson Mandela, the former South African, political prisoner, and eventually president, dying in prison in the 1980s. So then how was it, that on February the 11th, he was able to be released, to ultimately form a new government?
Playing With Rabbits
In my unfinished sci-fi series; Asimov's Ghost, I play around with the concept of the Mandela Effect. One of the main protagonists, K-Rox, has discovered that his archenemy, Malcraft, has disappeared in a game called Empires, in the virtual world of the quantum blockchain.
However in real life, it is much more than a game to tens of thousands of people, who claim to be victim to the Mandela Effect. They say it is at once, both distressing, and disorientating, to find out that familiar events in the past, have been subtly changed.
One of the most popular Mandela Effects, is in the popular 1970s film Star Wars, the gold robot C-3p0, was not in fact all gold. The effeminate metal, mechanoid, did in fact have a silver, lower-right leg.
Whaaa???
Many millions of people have seen that film, and its remakes, and reboots, many millions of times. However hundreds of thousands of them, do not remember this glaring detail.
Perhaps a more popular Mandela Effect from Star Wars, is when Darth Vader utters the immortal line; "Luke, I am your father."
Which in this reality, is actually;
"No, I am your father."
Even the actor who played the voice of Vader, James Earl Jones, remembers the Luke version...
Deeper, and deeper we go.
The Everyday Effect
It isn't just popular culture whereby the Mandela Effect is prevalent; we see it expressed in the mundanity of everyday life.
For instance, the Laughing Cow, cheese brand (pictured above), many people remember the cow with a nose ring. However the manufacturers claim to have never drawn the character in that way.
Or even a famous symbol that a lot of people see every day; the Volvo symbol; how do you remember it?
The second one is correct; well, at least in this reality it is.
However it is not just with famous signs, and symbols that we experience the Mandela Effect. How many times have you argued with a friend or family member about an event in the past; whereby both of you remember it differently?
If we take a look at the justice system, we hear witnesses give conflicting accounts about important incidents. We can take out those who are deliberately lying, either to hide guilt, or trying to implicate others in a crime. Those left, are well-meaning witnesses, who simply cannot agree on how a particular incident played out.
The Effect is not always restrained to situations where others are involved. How many times, for instance, have you put your keys, wallet, or phone down in a particular place, only for it to pop up hours, or even days later somewhere else? Or even more disturbingly, in a place that you know, that you have looked in several times?
Do these examples all represent, glitches in the matrix? Are they indications of parallel universes, or proof that we are in fact living in a vast, and complex simulation?
A Case For Reality
So, did our mysterious traveller from Taured, really disappear, after travelling from an alternate dimension, all those years ago? Is that really the only evidence we need, when trying to assess the possibility of alternate realities?
Well it turns out there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for the man from Taured. You see, as explained before, the man flew into Tokyo's Haneda airport, and pointed at a country on the map that was not Taured, but Andorra.
He spoke a language that was at first thought to be French, and had an unfamiliar passport, after 12 hours of being put up in a hotel, he disappeared. So what could possibly explain such a strange set of events; which wouldn't seem out of place in a Stephen King novel?
First thing to consider, is that this was 1950s Japan, unlike today, the country had not seen as many foreigners, and thus airport officials rarely, if ever, dealt with citizens of small municipal, prinicipalities.
The airport employees were Japanese and did not understand French well and had almost certainly, never heard of Andorra or the Catalan language. So the man probably said; ‘Terre d’Andorra’, which makes sense, seeing as he was in fact pointing at Andorra on the map.
The Japanese officials then repeated it later as Taured. For anybody who has learned a foreign language before, you will be able to empathise with hearing a new word and mispronouncing it.
As for his disappearance from the hotel room; it is just as likely that he either found a Japanese person near by who was fluent in French. Or simply left the hotel and found some more competent officials to help him find his way.
Of course later, as the story was recanted time after time, by people who were there, and people who weren't. The narrative changed subtly, and insignificant details were raised to that of significant, and yet more details were brought into existence.
The Camera Never Lies But The Brain Does
In a now famous study In 1974, Elizabeth Loftus and John Palmer carried out an investigation as to the effects of language on the development of false memory. The experiment involved two separate studies.
In the first test, 45 participants were randomly assigned to watch different videos of a car accident, in which separate videos had shown collisions at 20, 30, and 40 miles per hour. After which, they were invited to fill out a witness report.
The people taking part all estimated collisions speeds between 35 and 40 mph. What was remarkable about the results, is that, it was the word being used to describe the collision that determined how high a person's estimate was.
So everyone who had been asked to assess a smash between two vehicles, estimated higher speeds, than those who were asked to assess a bump or collision.
The second experiment also showed participants videos of a car accident, 150 participants were randomly assigned to three conditions. Those in the first condition were asked the same question as the first study using the verb "smashed".
The second group was asked the same question as the first study, replacing "smashed" with "hit".
The final group was the control group, as they were not asked about the speed of the crashed cars. The researchers then asked the participants if they had seen any broken glass, knowing that there was no broken glass in the video.
The responses to this question had shown that the difference between whether broken glass was recalled or not heavily depended on the verb used. A larger sum of participants in the "smashed" group declared that there was indeed broken glass. In fact, more than the other two groups combined.
The two things exposed by this; and many other similar studies; are that our recollection of an incident, is heavily influenced by the words used, when being asked to remember. Secondly, by phrasing a question a certain way, details can be manufactured in the witnesses mind.
This is why a good lawyer, will object to leading questions, in court, or will make use of cleverly worded questions to get a witness to answer in a particular way.
The Strange Case Of Confabulation
So is that it? The Mandela Effect is simply a case of false memories on a mass scale? I'm afraid so, in fact this phenomena, has a name, it is called confabulation.
This is simply whereby our memories get subtly changed over time, the change is so slight, that our brains do not recognise it. In other words, a false memory, is indistinguishable from a real one.
False memories also get strengthened by paraphrasing, passing itself off as quoting. For instance, Darth Vader saying; "Luke, I am your Father", is not a direct quote. However it has passed itself off as one, due to popular culture.
So much so, that even the actor who played Vader, believes that this is what he said; supporters of the Mandela Effect might argue that, because he's the actor, he would remember his own lines.
However that is ignoring two glaring facts; the first being, that the interview that is often quoted, whereby Jones quotes the incorrect line. Was shot roughly 35 years after he filmed those scenes, as a voiceover artist.
Secondly, it is that the line does not make sense when taking the preceding lines into consideration.
Darth Vader: If you only knew the power of The Dark Side! Obi-Wan never told you what happened >to your father.
Luke Skywalker: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Darth Vader: No. I am your father.
Luke Skywalker: NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo!!!!
As you can see, the actual line, fits much better than the remembered one, it is the same with another famous paraphrase;
"If you build it, they will come." From Kevin Costner's; Field Of Dreams; however the actual line is;
"If you build it, he will come."
A lot of people swear blind, that they saw the film, and remember it as; they will come, again though, this is missing the fact that the film was about trying to coax, some old ghost of a baseball player out of limbo, thus the line makes perfect sense.
So in conclusion, the Mandela Effect, is simply a case of false memory, or confabulation, of course it can't be proven 100%. However common sense must come into play; is it more likely that the past is being edited; or that some people simply remember things differently to how they actually happened?
In my next article in the series I will be asking the question; Living In A Sim - Are Any Of Our Memories Real?
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK, IS IT LIKE I'VE SUGGESTED OR IS THE MANDELA EFFECT REAL? WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU THINK EXISTS? HAVE YOU HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE EFFECT? AS EVER, LET ME KNOW BELOW!
Cryptogee
Your word is contructed by everything you know.. And everything you know you know because someone has told you how the world works. You see through the eyes of the many rather than than yours. That is. Its called alchemist's and seers.
Good article and much love my friend..
Steem on :)
-Goldie
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Nicely put; thank you :-)
Cg
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so true @vangelov!
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@cryptogee it seems you may enjoy connecting the dots (this topic was a favorite of mine on Facebook for the longest time because of it's obvious web of a spider).
Here goes nothing:
~ Governments and scientists/industry.
~Science/Industry and CERN.
~CERN & Quantum Computing/DWave.
~CERN - DWave and the Mandela Effect.
Yes, I realize there is a huge gaping hole between CERN, the DWave, and the Mandela Effect that has yet to be illuminated. Yet I feel/think this is a good start.
🌎 🎯 🌎
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I find it hard to get past, that no evidence for it, exists outside of our own heads, kinda like the various gods people subscribe to.
Cg
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Myself, I think the Mandela Effect is real. The old Berenstein Bears books we had are the tell for me; they're now Berenstain.
I agree though that there are some shameless self-promoters out there who don't tell the truth. One needs to be careful who one associates with...
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I too believe it is real, and this is one that stands out to me as well. Mainly because I can remember being unsure how to pronounce the books as a child. I always wondered if I should say Beren"steen" or Beren"stine." I would never have had that dilemma with Berenstain.
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My question to both of you would be; do you still own the original books with the different spelling? Otherwise I would suggest that you are experiencing confabulation.
Cg
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No I don't, and like with any other example (Interview with the (a) Vampire, Sex and (in) the City) I would fully expect it to not be what I remembered. I don't believe the past or reality is altering around us, I believe there exists Berenstein Bears, Berenstain Bears, Berenstain Badgers, ... and the list goes on forever.
Steemit was actually the first place I heard of the Mandela effect so it's been less than a year that I've been aware of it. But when I first read on the subject it just fit with the overall conception I've had of "reality" for the last 15 or so years ever since I first discovered the Many Worlds Theory and that clicked with me.
I feel that the Mandela Effect has always happened. I think of it as an artifact of our consciousness navigating a path through infinite realities and probabilities. Before this modern time where we have a convergence of standardized images and logos, internationally famous people, names and media properties, and the internet as a means of communicating and finding others with like experiences... any "Mandela effects" would have been largely imperceptible to earlier societies.
I know it's bizarre, I certainly don't get into any fist fights with "Mandela Effect deniers!" Some examples I myself chalk up as more likely to be due to confabulation. I see C3POs silver leg (which I don't remember) but when I watch the movies it is actually very subtle and hard to detect, and most of the toys produced didn't bother to include that different paint as a detail and represented him as all gold. So that one doesn't strike me as a great example personally, but many do. But the Mandela Effect concept itself actually fit neatly into my already established "worldview" if you will, so I had no trouble accepting it. I may have to do an expanded post sometime and see who thinks I'm crazy and who may have similar views.
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Haha, great reply!
I should hope not; though that is a great headline right there!
Or as it is otherwise known, confirmation bias. :-)
Cg
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A good and fair point. But I do believe that at this point human psychology is as non-exact a science as quantum mechanics, so it's difficult to assume there is no bias in the opposing viewpoint.
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Definitely there will always be bias in the opposing viewpoint; though I would argue the non-exactness of psychology, there are definitely some very exact areas...
I can tell; we will have many more great debates, I am really enjoying this one; hence the follow! :-D
Cg
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Thanks! I'm thinking I may start on that "Reality" post tonight. It's definitely a lot more "art" than science though. You seem a very logical and rational sort, it'd be interesting to hear your views!
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There are plenty of folks with original books that have changed.
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Show me one of them, by that I mean, show me the story, where they reveal the book (not a memory of the book) and then how it has changed.
Or better yet, because covers can easily be faked; a film, with all the original actors, but with the so-called unchanged dialogue.
Cg
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As soon as I go to my parents, I will. There are plenty of vids of people doing just this already BTW.. it manifests in reality. Another one is the monopoly man.. no monacle.. but even the depections of him by jim carrey have a monacle.
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OK, I await conclusive proof, and leave my mind open.
That is not proof of anything, other than the makers of whatever film you're talking about. Also mistakenly, gave him a monocle. These mistakes are often down to an interpretation, that becomes popular, then everyone takes that explanation, as the original.
Cg
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Just replied to @bryan-imhoff, want to let you know -- yes, I still have the original books and the spelling is no longer what my mother and I recall. She remembers me asking her "is it 'steen' or 'stine'?" -- now, it's "stain". Upvoted and followed, thanks!
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Oh, no; what I meant is, have you got the book with the -stine spelling? However you are saying the book you have has the -stain spelling, however you and your mother both remember asking if it was steen or stine?
Interesting; although what I would ask is, could it be possible, that the spelling Bernstain, could also be pronounced; Bernsteen or -stine?
Cg
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From what I understand, when something changes, no traces of the previous version exist, only memories (and in some cases, "derivatives" i.e., there are references to "Berenstein" and "Sex In The City" in articles).
Like @brian-imhoff I don't see any benefit from attacking people who might deny it -- I have experienced it, I know that it is real for me for some of the items, and there aren't any items that I mis-remember in a way that others don't.
In other words, I don't recall it being spelled "Berenstone", and neither does anybody else who mis-remembers it. I think this point is salient. Cheers!
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The reason I know it has always been Sex And The City; is I remember a conversation years ago with a friend, who said; "...everybody thinks it Sex In The City, but it's not, it's Sex And The City."
I was like; "oh really? I thought it was in, as well..."
Cg
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Definitely Berenstein. I didn't own the books myself, my neighbor had them and I had the exact same issue you did with the pronunciation.
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My child has trouble pronouncing the word; butterfly, does that mean that one day she will swear blind, that it used to be called a blutterfly?
Cg
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THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL ITEMS HAVE CHANGED. LOL If you don't see it, you're likely never going to, and you're probably not real.
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Ach! You've figured me out! I'm not real!! OK, well that means that we now have to edit the past 48 hours, if all goes well you will not remember me or this conversation.
You definitely will not have proof of it!!
Cg
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LOL that's not what I mean.. you exist :) but you are not part of the transfer into this simulation... Ever hear mention of the 144,000 in the book of the dead? or the bible?
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LOL, that's a relief! :-)
These books are collections of mythology, written by men, who had less understanding of the world, than the average 12 year old today.
Cg
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I remember the 144,000 being mentioned. There was a show years back about people who disappeared, which was called "The 4400".
I started reading Scripture again a year and a half ago, starting with the New Testament, and was surprised when I saw that number -- if you remove the first and last digits, you get 4400, which might have been that show's authors making an oblique Biblical reference.
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Yes, that's it exactly -- both my mom and I remember my asking her "steen or stine"? Also, with "stain" there'd be some jokes we would have made, but we didn't (e.g., "berry stain", or, some bathroom humor).
She found the books in my sister's old room, and they read "stain" -- she was quite freaked out about it. I also observed "Sex In(And) the City" and "Interview with A(the) Vampire" -- the latter, I distinctly recall the poster which had the words in white apart from the large "A", which was in red.
My parents have owned Volvos since before I was born, and I have always associated the logo with the symbol for male, the circle with the arrow pointing out, so I didn't experience the only-round Volvo logo.
Which is not to say that others haven't experienced it. I'm also certain the adult diaper used to be "Depends" (now missing the "s"), and that "Febreze" used to be spelled "Febreeze" (a play on words, "breeze" was part of the word).
Anyway, enjoying this conversation -- upvoted and followed!
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The Mandela effect is caused by putting together two or more universes.
This time it was specifically done to prod people into understanding that the past is not as fixed as one would think.
We live in a holographic universe, and these subtle changes are easier then you might think.
The interesting thing about the Mandela effect is that there are usually two very distinct groups. One that remembers the way it is, and one that remembers the way it was. Neither group is suffering from memory problems.
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Or, or, bear with me; human memory; as has been proven ad infinitum. is fallible, and therefore the Mandela Effect is yet another figment of our imaginations.
:-)
Cg
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I understand your logic and your view point. Long ago, in a far away time, I used to watch science fiction and have similar thoughts.
My statement isn't about conjecture. It is a statement similar to "there is a painting on the wall."
Time is not linear, and people do not all share the same past.
Lets say that you went and changed your past (through certain spiritual practices), and then you went and interacted with friends who knew you from then. Which past do you think they remember? Would it blow your mind if they remembered your new past?
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Interesting conjecture, and I myself have thought on similar lines. Like, if I went back in time and placed a huge bet on a football match that I knew the outcome of. What would happen to the future that I had travelled back from?
My conclusion was parallel universes would be created, to accommodate my new actions.
However, these are, as you say, complete conjecture, because, unless you have a completely provable way of changing your past, there is no way of testing your theories, or indeed conjectures.
Nice thought patterns though... :-)
Cg
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Yes. I believe that some people were moved over, into a new simulation, and their memories of the old sim are still there. Let's put it this way, If you don't notice mandela effect, I'd be worried if I was real or not.
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Both groups are "real". As real as you can get in a game played by eternal beings.
I was trying to comment that I have caused mandela effects with my own actions.
They aren't as uncommon as people would like to believe / the past is not as static and ubiquitous as people would like to believe.
Two people usually have different memories of an event. And it isn't just what they were focusing on, but you can find discrepancies in interactions that they witnessed.
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I don't believe that to be true. All great books talk of 144,000 real souls. Even the bible.
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You could be correct. I know many people who are in more than one place at this time.
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The group A) are the real people.. the transplants. group B) are the simulation copies, generated from this reality.
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Fantastic post
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Yeah, agree with you. Don't see why anyone would try to see some crazy stuff when there are so simple explanations.
At the most we could talk about humans "rewriting history", if we take the example of mandela dying in prison it's very possible that people remember that 'correctly' because they've been told so in one way or another.
Or on a larger scale we celebrate people that were essentially mass murderes because they were on the winning side.
Point being I think you can change the past by active and passive manipulation. Our main source of knowledge of what happened a 100 years ago is usually something written down by someone who most likely was fairly biased...
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It is an interesting point; history is written by the winners, that would be one hell of an alternative book though. History As Seen Through The Eyes Of The Losers :-)
Cg
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No, in this case we have massive numbers of people remembering the same way, and physical evidence things are different.. not things from 100 years ago, things from 5 years ago. So massive numbers of people MIS-REMEMBER accurately the same thing... Sorry, you'll have to do better to debunk it thank that. :) LOL. Hard to understand things when you don't even know where are are who you are and what your purpose is.
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You do realise the logical fallacy in that statement; right?
The reason people mis-remember (accurately :-) ) the same thing, is covered in the article; because these things quickly get misquoted. It is then the misquotation that gets repeated.
Try it out, by playing a game of Chinese whispers, it is exactly the same concept.
Cg
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VERY GOOD CONGRATULATIONS I LIKED SO MUCH I HOPE TO FOLLOW SHARING YOUR GOOD ITEMS WITH ALL OUR SUCCESSES @cryptogee
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1min after artice, that take like 5 - 10 mins to read :D
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For me what convince me is James Bond Moonraker. The fact that Dolly no longer have braces makes absolutely no sense. The whole point of the scene is to show how similar Jaws and Dolly are. Richard Kiel did a Visa commercial and it's proves that Dolly had braces. You can watch it here :
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I really can't remember the scene you talk about; however it wouldn't surprise me to find that Visa didn't want to pay the Bond people, which they would have if they made Richard Kiel jaws. However this was a clever way of referencing the film, without paying them a penny.
Cg
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somebody was doing the back scene editing work in human history....
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This is a very interesting read, I'm going to finish reading it later.
I found out about the Mandela effect two years ago and was absolutely stunned. The famous star wars line got me the most as I remember the line from child hood and using the line many times as I grew up.
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Therein lie the clues; you remember it, from childhood. You used (paraphrased) the line many times; neither of these things make it true. Like I said in the article, look at the original lines, and see how they fit in much better than the Luke line.
:-)
Cg
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Ok what about the line "Mirror, Mirror on the wall" that is now "magic mirror on the wall". I watched an episode of the series "Once upn a time" think it was in season 5 where they used the old line "mirror, mirror on the wall"
It is a very interesting topic to discuss. Thanks for bringing it up on this platform.
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I think that "Mirror Mirror" has been paraphrased by countless shows, and so therefore people now remember it as that. When in fact it clearly is magic mirror. Like you say, an episode of another show, used "mirror mirror", which just proves that they got it wrong as well.
Like you say, it is an interesting subject; and one that fascinates me :-)
Cg
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Oops, bad comment.
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Ok wait what about the line in Forest Gump... I remember it as "Life is like a box of chocolates" but now for some reason it is "Life was like a box of chocolates"
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It's not in our heads. If it's not in your head, I'd be very worried about it.
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There is more going on than simply trying to capture a still shot. Some people do have photographic memories. That is something else. But for most of us there is a subjective element. What was being conveyed. The message. The impression. and it enters into our ability to remember. Even smells can trigger memories of what "we experienced" in an event. The exact spelling or pronunciation is not always the most important thing in trying to communicate. It was shock for me to realize while studying advanced mathematics that there is no such thing as a straight line in the physical world. And yet elaborate structures are produced using straight lines. This certainly hints at the ephemeral nature of the world we presently perceive as somehow stable and solid. Look forward to more of your intriguing inquiries into the nature of reality.
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Surely you mean in the natural world?
Anyway, like you say, spellings and pronounciations are not the sort of thing we focus on at the time; it is only after the event, that we say; "Hey, it wasn't spelled like that!"
Cg
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wow!!!!!
nice ...
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Wow, awesome piece! Great food for thought. I think the effect could be real, but the simpler explanation for many of these might be the correct one. Our minds tend to generalize some memories, which would explain the Volvo logo and the C3PO leg, for example.
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Exactly, and then things get repeated and repeated, until it is they that become truth. Rather like "Luke I am your father". He didn't say it, however, it has been paraphrased like that so often, that, that has become the real truth now.
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There's also research about how people basically create memories from assumptions like that. For example, people who went to Disney parks at a young age were successfully provided with suggestions later (which became memories) that they had seen cartoon characters like Bugs Bunny, even though Bugs is not a Disney character. Our minds tend to put things like that into convenient places.
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Yup, exactly why opposing lawyers and judges must be careful in court; as it is so easy to sway a witness with just the right words.
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How do you account for massive numbers of people with the same exact memory fragments that are different/???
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I'm not a scientist, but perhaps we expect the human brain to record perfectly, when in fact it is also ordering and trying to make sense of things...imperfectly.
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It's absurd for someone to tell that he/ she knows for sure what our life represents, what was before and what will happen after we die.
I agree that we could live in a very complex simulation.
It's not impossible.. but it's really scarry!
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"Is our past beeing edited" instantly remembered me of "1984 by George Orwell"
Great book.. only after finishing it, i really understood how profound it was.. A masterpiece!
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Yes, and we are seeing that today with certain public figures who say things, and then completely deny saying it at a later date.
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Haha!!
Specially the politicians! They have Mandela syndrome :))
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@ cryptogee I think that if you apply Occam's razor principle ("when you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better.") , the obvious answer is your conclusion.
Our memory plays tricks on us, in fact every time we recollect a memory, we are actually changing it a little bit.
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Totally correct; unfortunately, many people will not believe it, preferring instead the more convoluted explanation :-)
Cg
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Looooks very very intresting, thank you for sharing!
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I'm fascinated by the global consciousness and collective thought or memory. It seems we still have a lot to learn in these realms which I find very exciting. I've gone done the Mandela Effect rabbit hole and it has definitely gets you thinking. I like to keep an open mind to all ideas because I feel like as soon as we decide things are a certain way, we may be limiting our perspective in many ways.
Thanks so much for sharing this! Following you now and looking forward to future posts.
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Thanks! I hope you'll like the next in the series :-)
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I'll keep an eye out for it!
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great share and a much needed topic that people should TALK ABOUT rather than just letting their own discomfort and cognitive dissonance prevent awakening! followed.
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I'm also one of the Mandela Effected, and it's been a roller coaster ride from the first time I heard about it last year to date. The only problem I have are with those who create bogus MEs or connect dots that aren't there. Muddies the water, and makes the lot of us look like fools. That said, great article! :)
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Interesting; the problem; if you can call it that, with the Mandela Effected, is they have no proof outside of their own minds. So rather like the religious person who says; "God speaks to me", we have to take their word for it.
If you had a video with a different version of a line in a film, or a book with a different title to what it was meant to be, that would be real-world evidence.
The point I made was that, subtly changed false memories, are as real to the bearer, as well; real memories! So I get what you're saying; however ponder this for one second; can you produce one shred of evidence, that doesn't rely on your memory?
Thanks for the comment by the way; really appreciate it! :-)
Cg
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Yep! That's one of the main problems with this whole thing. You know what you know, but you can't "prove" it, whereas the person not affected has the actual product to back his or her claim. I've realized that you can't really change anyone's opinion about it. They either see it, or they don't. It's going to be really interesting to see how this thing plays out at the end of the day...
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It will indeed; please make sure you catch the next in the series, where I will go deeper into the rabbit hole :-)
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Amazing article. I have heard about this effect and the case with the man from Taured. As a lover of sciences I believe that everything as strange as it can be has logical and science-based explanation. So it is here. People think that sometimes there are paranormal things but the truth is that these people just don't know the facts!
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Exactly; I would love to discover magical things; because then I would win a Nobel Prize for opening a new branch of physics! Try as I, and others might, alas, no, this has not happened yet :-)
Cg
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Ach, never mind our past being edited, I've just realised my bad grammar in the title, and because it is more that 7 days old, I can't edit!!!
Grrrr.
Cg
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Awesome post Cg! As much as I'd love the Mandela Effect and "Taured" to be real... I agree with you, the brain is too easily coaxed into subtle tricks. Either that...or someone out there in a parallel universe name GeeCrypyo is writing about a strange land called "Japan"!
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Haha, me too! I'd love it to be real, it might mean that one day we could control travel to and from, that dimension.
Hmm, I must meet this GeeCrypto; I like the sound of him :-D
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The mandela effect may have been caused by us moving to another simulation instance. Those that notice the move are real, those that don't are pure simulations.
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Or, it's all in our heads, I think I will travel the path of least resistance, until proven wrong :-)
Cg
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Amazing article !
I already knew most of what you were saying (though the laughing cow, Andorran man and volvo symbol were cases I'd never heard of), as I'm quite interested in psychology myself.
I'm pretty sure the Mandela effect is simply that, a psychological effect (given how unruly and error-prone the human mind actually is, I can't really call it an anomaly XS). I experience it from time to time. I just greet with wonder the times when I walk by a building for the thousandth time, pay attention to it for once, and see features that, to my mind, seem like they must clearly have just been added.
I even have one where I dreamt the ending of a popular book series, and through some shortcut was persuaded I'd read the final instalment in the series, till a friend told me the final book just came out and I read it.
Of course, the end was completely different to what I had dreamt up, yet it still somehow felt "wrong" compared to the version my mind had adopted.
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As you say, it isn't an anomaly, merely the imperfect way our minds work. I love the story of you dreaming the book ending! I bet if you were differently inclined, you could have ended up suing the author for stealing your idea, but messing up the ending :-D
Cg
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Ahahaha...
Any legal system that would accept someone going to court on such a charge would be silly XS
Yeah... my friends didn't believe me until AFTER I told them my version of the book in full detail. That was several years ago, now I can barely remember both versions XS
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Lols; I dunno, I've heard the American legal system is pretty crazy when it comes to suing people! :-D
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True... that country is a bit unhinged XS
Heard about the law proposition for declaring cryptocurrencies at the border (can't remember who made the post XS ) ?
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Declaring at the border??? Surely not; that's crazy...
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Yeah... it was proposed by some congressman I think.
Ah, found the story https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@kingscrown/usa-wants-travelers-to-declare-bitcoin-at-the-border
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Yeah, I just saw that and read it; it's ridiculous and completely unenforceable; whatever next!
Cg
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CP3O, silver wha?? You are pulling my leg!!
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It was always c3p0 in my reality.................... damn Mandela effect......... where am I?
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Haha oops! 😊
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Haha, nope, in this reality anyway! :-)
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Can't believe I missed that. Sold my figures from circa 1986 on eBay last year, pretty sure cp3o was all gold, not like the films eh!
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Aha! Check the pics you put up; do you still have them?
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No :( I looked a few months ago because I had 50 or so figures lined up in my bros garden. Silly!
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Ach, shame; I hope you got a good price for them... :-)
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Probably not enough, around $200. Everything had to go though I left the UK with suitcases and a mountain bike!
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Oh I missed this... Where did you leave for?
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Well written article. I recently became aware of the Mandela Effect myself, and must admit it has opened my perception up to quite a few other things...
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Me too, I only discovered when writing a chapter of my Asimov's Ghost series; what particular things has it opened your eyes too then?
Cg
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In general, I have noticed my perception of "reality" has altered in such a way as to have me questioning more, thus noticing more. ..
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I feel we haven't explored a lot in this world. We always struggle for existence (money, family, health) these days. I believe such things happen.
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I did a Storify on the Mandela Effect. I give some of the effects and the possible reason for you to think what you think about the past.
https://storify.com/DeanLogic/the-mandela-effect
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Please follow and upvote me.i want a lot of friend
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Congratulations @cryptogee
You took 21 place in my Top 100 of posts
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Cool!
Cg
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thank you for good posting.
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Please do not spam the comment section with links; as it encourages others to do the same.
I do not mind links to relevant topic posts; however they have to be directly relevant to my topic AND be accompanied by a thought out comment. This adds value to the people reading the thread, and myself.
I and others will be much more inclined to vote for you, if you follow this procedure. If you do not have a relevant topic post, then a well thought out comment on the subject, AFTER YOU HAVE READ the post, is much more likely to get people clicking on your profile, and voting for your content.
Now please remove your link immediately, and try again, thank you.
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