Collaborative copy editing/proof reading

tvulgaris (47) in translate • 8 years ago

I just told mrssignificant she needs a copy editor to make her good post much better due to obvious translation problems. We Steemians can surely come up with a collaborative subgroup just for that, can't we? I hadn't seen one on steemgigs last week, but I'll check again.

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8 years ago by tvulgaris (47)

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valued-customer (67) · 8 years ago

I think that's a great idea, and there are also ways to help authors improve their work collaboratively that cost no more than time and typing.

Let me know if you get further along in this idea.

Thanks!

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tvulgaris (47) · 8 years ago

I was a professional proof-reader for several publications a very long time ago, plus I get very anal about spelling, usage, grammar, and all the other BASIC language skills of verbal and written communication. When the language is so bad it becomes painful to read, I am hesitant to judge whether the content is worthwhile, and it often IS, sometimes even spectacular. I would just wish it READ so.

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valued-customer (67) · 8 years ago

Particularly when someone is struggling to write in a language other than their mother tongue, I make every effort to comprehend what they mean, because that is why they are writing. It can be disconcerting to read peoples writing that write poorly in their mother tongue, and especially when they are Americans, makes me angry at the terrible educational system.

I homeschooled lol
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tvulgaris (47) · 8 years ago (edited)

The tremendous WIDESPREAD degradation of the American public school system is almost completely a product of the past 35 years, prior to that most of the poor quality could be directly related to improper resource allocation, most frequently poor areas of large cities and sparsely-populated rural areas- inadequate tax bases and relatively poor political representation usually loses most chances of developing a good school system, but now this process (edit: of misallocation) is culturally embedded to sabotage quality public education.
Home schooling can be wonderful, or hopelessly bad, just like a public education, but it's much harder for most parents to pull together a good curriculum than any school of many students. This is not to discount home-schooling, we (mostly my wife) home-schooled our son for a few years before the community school had pulled itself together much better on the academic side (both of us have taught in private schools as well), and (based on his success since) did at least an acceptable job.

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valued-customer (67) · 8 years ago

The only two features of the curriculum I developed for my kids were 1) I brought them to work with me, so they learned to understand things by doing them. They learned math by reading tape measures. Since they got paid, they were motivated. 2) Their interest. If they asked about astronomy, we learned astronomy. If they were interested in American history, or music, or money (all of which they, at one time or another, were very interested in) that's what we learned.

If a child wants to know about something, nothing you can do will prevent them from learning about it. If they don't, they will resent being forced to learn, and that's completely counterproductive to the educational process.

We lived in a remote area, and it was a challenge to provide a means of socialization with their peers, so when they hit puberty I did enroll them in public school for that reason. There are some things parents just can't teach, but kids can only learn by interacting with their peers. That's the human condition.

Upon their initial enrollment they were at the top of their class in every subject, and charged into every possible club, group, and sport they could. I told them they would find the institution of school stifling in time, but they, so thrilled at interacting with their peers, did not believe me.

As time passed, and the schools continually impressed rote learning of material they had no interest in, their eagerness to participate cooled, their grades dropped, and they understood why I had homeschooled them to begin with.

I consider their education a great success, not least because they came to understand misinformation, propaganda, and institutional abuse. I hope you do continue to invest in helping your kid(s) learn about stuff they wanna know, because learning how to learn, and that learning is fun, will be amongst the most important things you can do to prepare them to succeed.

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mrssignificant (52) · 8 years ago

Thank you for your help

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thatsweeneyguy (61) · 8 years ago

Show her my Proofreading SteemGig.

Best of luck!

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