Hanoi: Final thoughts after my first trip

in travel •  6 years ago  (edited)

For those of you that follow my stuff, you already know that the main purpose of this trip was to determine if I want to relocate to this city. The other two candidates are Bangkok and Chiang Mai – both of which you most likely know are in Thailand. I may add another Vietnam location to candidacy later, but for now Hanoi is the only one I considered.

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Now, after my trip (and I am in the airport now waiting for my flight out)

I have come to several conclusions but I am not sure yet if Hanoi is the place for me. There are some factors that are important to me and Hanoi has scored well on some, and not so well on others.

Transport:

Verdict = good

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Hanoi transportation really isn’t that bad and I can say this mostly because of the fact that the Grab app exists. It is extremely cheap to get around using Grab Taxis. If I am traveling within 10km there were many instances where the total ride was around $1, which I can’t even understand how the driver, or Grab for that matter, are making any money at all. This price drops to sometimes less than 50 cents if you are using the “Grab-Pay” option where you put money on your account before even booking the taxi. Therefore, while the roads are terribly congested and I wouldn’t want to be driving on them, it is very easy to be a passenger so I’m gonna give Hanoi the thumbs up as far as transport is concerned.

Food

Verdict = excellent

I had already mentioned that food of all sorts is everywhere and it is very good. I don’t need to go into more detail about this. I have had some of the best Tex-Mex and pork ribs of my life while in Vietnam. That’s right! I can’t believe I am saying this either

Drink (of the alcoholic variety)

Verdict = excellent

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On my last night I went to meet another friend in the Old Quarter (is it called “Old Town?”) and while it was a bit too backpacker-ish for my liking, the streets were marked off to cars so it was bearable to get around. What stunned me was the bar specials. The first place we went to had a combo of happy hour and ladies night (which is something they do every night.) So, women get to have draft beer for the very low price of FREE. If I want some I have to pay a staggering 7,000 Dong for it – cool your jets, 7,000 Dong is just a bit over 10 cents. Again, I have to ask: “how are they making any money?” Once the draft runs out you are forced to buy bottled beers which are 2 for less than a dollar.
I drink almost every day. Not in excess but it is extremely rare for me to go a day without having at least one beer. I would imagine that my expense on alcohol (in Thailand) easily outweighs all my other expenses in life COMBINED. Therefore, this is an absolutely huge factor to me.

Apartments / long-term accommodation

Verdict = poor

I have only looked at about a dozen different places in 3 different areas but after viewing these I started to feel a bit frustrated. It seems to me than anything under $1000 a month just wasn’t very nice. I had hoped to be able to find a place for less than $500. I am going to continue to shop now that I know the areas I want to live in a bit and hope that some agency can help me to find something that isn’t going to make me worry about my financial future. Of course the savings on food and drink could outweigh this.
Consequently, if any of my Vietnamese Steemians out there have some inside information for me I am certainly not arrogant enough to presume that I am doing everything right – so if you could help, please do.

Language

Verdict = poor

Before anyone decides to berate me on this I want you to understand that no, I do not expect everyone in the world to speak English. However, since there are thousands of foreigners engaged in teaching it in this city, why does it seem that so very few people can speak it at all? I am very reticent to learn another Asian language since it took a frustratingly long amount of time for me to learn to speak Thai. I’m not saying the Vietnamese are doing anything wrong, it is their country afterall and they can speak any language they please. But of course life is substantially easier if people can communicate with you.

Government

Verdict = good

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Coming from Thailand and USA, I expect the government to be both overbearing and “all up in your business.” I was delighted to see that the government seems to be quite good here. When I speak to people that have lived here for years I didn’t hear even one story about being “shaken down” by the police for some “tea money” (bribes for something you didn’t actually do wrong.) Also, the highways didn’t even have any tolls – in Bangkok, if you want your car to move any faster than not at all during peak times, you are going to shell out a relatively high amount of dough for the pleasure. This is also true in USA where I am sometimes astounded at how much money it can cost you if you happen to have the misfortune of working on the other side of a particular bridge. Perhaps my pals in the northeast can elaborate on this. Anyway, the streets and public areas are very very nicely maintained in Hanoi and this is a massive plus.

Modernity (is that even a word?)

Verdict = good

Internet is fast and reliable, 4g was always working, the electricity doesn’t have constant intermissions and most of the electric cabling is underground (in the places I visited.) This of course is in comparison to Thailand, where the electrical wiring is just a mess literally everywhere. Furthermore, there is great sanitation and public waste bins are everywhere. Go ahead, try to find a trash can in a public space in Thailand that is actually emptied from time to time.

Overall, I’m really excited about moving to this part of the world if I can find a reasonably priced apartment and also get my dog in the country because I am not going anywhere without her even if they try to kick me out - one of those "cold, dead hands" type situations.

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I'm a Hanoian and this post reflects well the reality there :)

I hope you get a reasonable apartment as soon as possible and I hope that doggo is allowed her liberty too.

About the language, I know it won't be very easy to cope without having so many people you can understand and those that can understand you. But it is always better to live among strangers if you can be happy doing so than with the relatives that does not consider you to be human.

If you so much determined, it won't take long before you master the language too. If you choose to stay in Vietnam anyway.

With everything I've read about Thailand, I think Vietnam would be the right place for you. Ahhahah

Save trip back to Thailand bud.

On average, it could be said that it is a good place to move and that it is appropriate (apparently). Leaving the subject a little behind, your dog is beautiful, his face is too tender a poem, it shows that you love him very much.

indeed I do, my doggo is my life :)

Awww. How nice! We share the same thought, I also have a dog that is 7 years old and I feel that life is based around him. When I go on a trip it's very painful for me, I have a hard time quitting.

Great post ..Well done
I think the important thing is memories
The phrase from the book - this is what the losers say - Hahah‏…

To be honest, Hanoi is not the ideal place people with a regular job would wish to spend their location independent life. Hanoi has no beach nor mountain nearby. It’s a city far from the coast, far from nature. But it’s a city that’s definitely something to consider because Hanoi seems like a great place to settle and be immersed in a new culture: Surrounded by affordable cost of living, smiling locals, most delicious food, and beautiful places to visit.

I think instead of going for Hanoi you should go for Bangkok. It s a far better place than this apart from beveeages and food. The scenery , the architecture and other facilities are awesome. Just an advice @gooddream. You may do what best suits you dear.

I am planning on investigating that next. I am actually in BKK right now. However, the very first place I went to eat (I really wanted nachos and my Thai friend said she knew a place) was awful - don't think they even know what nachos are, and it was expensive. I'll be back but for now I gotta go visit the dog - I'm slightly emotionally attached to her

I like that you always publish your trips I would love you to get a great place for you and your puppy beautiful

Hanoi seems to be the final bus-stop but the accommodation. You still need to look it and take some time maybe some of the steemians around can help look for one lots cheaper. With the other criteria especially no police harassment then Hanoi is the best place

Awesome pictures. It brings back lots of memories for me. I spent 2 months in Vietnam back in 2009 (before I started making travel videos) and thoroughly loved it. I might have to go back again soon, this time armed with a camera.

I like the fact that after your trip you come up with a comprehensive report. Considerably ones comfort is key. And that's the reason I live where I live. Also the cost implication too is something to think about which you stated well its "unwise" to live beyond your income its financial suicide, its like living from hand to mouth. Also u can do a scale of preference to look at things you can cut down on to afford but if it doesn't work out your decision is perfect. The language thing is workable to me. Asides that i think Hanoi is a great city.

Hanoi compared to Thailand is paradise.
The bad thing is finding an apartment at a low cost because you say that 1 apartment for rent costs $ 1000 for me, which is a lot of money for a monthly fee, but has the advantage of living in hanoi, since it is more modern than Thailand in all senses.
You as a lover of good food and drink hanoi is perfect for you ..
Note: Your puppy is very beauty

Hey it scored high but the apartment is probably the most important thing along with the language. That is a bit of a bummer. Hopefully someone can give you some inside knowledge on accommodation. At least you are doing it the right way and not just jumping in feet first.

Beautiful scenery of beautiful results. photo the natural beauty that has brought you to get a beautiful dream every night.You are a very lucky person, because you have seen what I can not see in my life.I have never seen this scene it's amazing. Thank you guys for sharing, I hope someday to visit such a beautiful place even if it is not possible for me.

I want to have a dog that is so cute, can I keep it

you can visit her, but no. can not keep... haha :)

haha, i love to be with you, guys

Thailand is growing extremely fast economically - would love to see what the country looks like in 10 years

The beer prices sounds amazing, here in South Africa, we pay around $1.00 for a beer at a shop, you double it if you go to a restaurant, this is for normal mass produced beers, if you opt for a craft beer, you can add another 1 to 2 dollar to the price - it sounds like my kind of place!!

Great read - thank you for sharing!

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Sweet photo, tipuvote!

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Interesante la información, gracias por publicar..

very nice pictures

Well, it's your call. I've not been to Hanoi but with what you have said about Hanoi so far, I think you should consider it. No place in the world will have everything perfect