We have noticed many people asking how to increase their UA score, specially on our discord channels. Since this has been brough up plenty of times, it might be productive for the platform to put this on an official publication and hopefully answer this question in a more definite manner.
How is the UA score calculated?
Although this question has been answered since our launch, it seems obvious that to some the system is still unclear, or in the very least very complicated to understand. So with that in mind, we will try to explain it in a none technical way.
The scores are computed daily and they track the follows and unfollows on the blockchain. We start with our trusted accounts, witnesses and evaluate their ranks by determining how active they are, if they are up to date, their stake, etc. From there the trust network expands and we calculate the rest of the scores.
It's easy for anyone to check the top UA ranks on our website and check your own using steemconnect.
Is there a way to increase your score?
Of course there is, but some people are putting efforts on the wrong things. In other words, by unfollowing people with the idea of increasing your score, you might actually be hurting it, making people stop supporting you and unfollow you as well.
On top of that a clever steemian should be focusing on expanding their network and influence and not the opposite. It almost seems counterproductive to take the reductive approach when everyone is trying to expand their influence. Think about that for a second.
So what is the trick?
There are no shortcuts here, anyone who is interested in growing their influence on the blockchain has to expand their network the right way. Becoming an interesting content creator, interacting right, attracting followers using the dynamics we already understand: Interact with your audience, curate your comments, comment on other people's post, etc.
If users work on their network, become part of a community, which we strongly recommend, join our discord and make some friends, some new allies, then those users will no doubt increase their UA score over time.
Closing Thoughts
We will try tackle these common doubts in short form posts as to create a repository of common questions people have regaring @steem-ua. However please feel free to participate of the conversation in the comments below and share your experience with @steem-ua so far.
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good project, ive delegated to it
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good initiative to start with this short post repository.. keep up the good work.. regards from @rival - @steem-ua supporter from day 1
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thank you for the support @rival
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Hi, i am interested in your service and so i gave you 25sp delegation, but i do not see you register it in your webpage, there is some issue with me?
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That's well said.
All the very best for your efforts in rolling this out.
Upvoted
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i think everyone should do whatever they want as long as its not intrusive, no one has the holy grail of content and a lot of people want a lot of different things. I think if you dont like what someone writes, you can just mute them and you'll never see them again. If you're gonna start dictating then who knows what is what ? the enlightened ones can tell for everyone what "good content" is ?
i dont think so, it also stifles innovation and new ways of thinking, new uses on the most advanced blockchain in existence at the moment, it shouldnt be under-used just for writing potter fan-fiction and "how bitcoin will rise to a million next month and steemit to half of that next week because of insert some vague facts here"
thats my opinion ofcourse :) thats the beauty, we're supposed to be able to have those without other people censoring us because they disagree
i like the advent of the next-gen steemers and systems, its a bit overdue and i think we're gonna see a lot more amazing stuff as the steemchain expands and refines itself, with a few bumps on every hardfork but still going forward, its the age of the utility token after all, no longer the age of speculation.
I'd change what you say to "if you want something you have to DO something" but what that means , thats a personal point of view
and then some ... its late :D
what i'd like to see here, is ned and his cronies lobbying for BIG advertising money and then implementing it in the least intrusive way ever
like flixxo does, they got coke and pepsi, rayban, greenpeace, paco rabane, nissan, kenzo ... thats BIG money :)
big money -> better steem and the way its done, you only watch ads when you EXPLICITLY click the button (and you get paid for it)
yah thats my first accepted video too btw lol, but thats not the point, the point is they found a way to make advertising SO useful it would be idiocy to adblock it :) AND i doubt coca cola came just knocking on their door while they were bickering on how to strongarm the plankton into writing what they wanna see
No one can grow up in a nanny state, that's why everyone should do whatever they want, without intruding on people.
thats the way i see it
ive been accused before that my comments are a lot bigger than my posts so, maybe , i dont know that influences the UA score too, although i find commenting to have nearly a nil-reward ratio when it comes to the actual thing everyone is really here for : the money.
To say you're not is hard to believe for me (and i mean "you" in general), moreover i think it's somewhat ironic to pledge allegiance to the holy content while praising steem-ua in one sentence since, score and ranking or not at its essence it IS (albeit an advanced) paid for upvoting system.
It's also something you will not see anywhere else as, as far as i know steemchain / steemit / busy, the api is what makes this thing what it is, and thats why i truly believe it a total waste to limit it to a single way of thinking or handling it, who cares if the trending section is full of crud ? that's just the way the world works, turn on your tv during prime time, what do you get ?
you get paid-for crud, if you want the goodies you have to dive below the surface, find the magically enchanted underwater caves where the fringe of the bell-curve lives, explore
i'm 100% against regulation by the upper class , im happy they removed the downvote button since out-of-sight out-of-mind psychology seriously helps with the temptation and if you wanna do it now you need at least a bit of savvy on the matter, i think thats a really good thing. It still doesnt help against raging trollbots armies and it still doesnt help against people with a single-minded view of what is "steemit" and what is not.
but its a start :)
i'm gonna stop before i hit the 16kb comment limit lol
please be aware, this is not an attack on your person or anyone else, this is simply my viewpoint on this place, i dont suffer from groupie mentality like you would get on minds.com, i dont believe in this tribal plague that haunts planet crypton and i'm pretty honest that i wouldnt be on steemit this much if there wasnt any money to be had, considering the fact that i rank 13000 in over a million accounts (suddenly i do ... last week i wasnt aware of that lol) and only last month i was in the top commenters i also think i dont have to prove anything. If my comments were posts and my posts would get what they're worth then that would be fine, but stuff like this ?
tends to get nothing heh
my personal opinion,
sincerely
el Gato del diablo :p
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Who will define intrusive, Rudy?
Having said that, thank you for commenting in such a painstakingly detailed manner.
I can learn from you, a great deal, about commenting!
What if there was a comment centric UX?😊
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@nigelmarkdias , intrusive ... well, intrusive would be if you are going to force your post on others, that would be sending stuff around to clutter up the transaction feed, or posting comments willy-nilly with links to your content, otherwise, if you pay 5000 USD to get your post on top in trending, i dont think thats intrusive, no one has to go look there unless they choose to and since it already says "trending" you certainly (hopefully) don't expect to find the next dali or satoko fuji there , so thats somewhat what i mean, i didnt mean offensive, as i'm a total free speech extremist (which is NOT a far right or left extremist btw since neither of those will let anyone but their side talk) i think offensive has the simplest solution ever : mute , not regulate. It's a shame the nature of the steemchain does not allow "blocking" people from seeing your feed although i dont think it would be very hard to implement to just do that on the steemit-UI
just like they removed the downvote button (which will be some mystical urban legend for people who got on it after that) and the out-of-sight out-of-mind will definitely work, so would simply blocking it on the UI even if professional trolls can still find it all on the blockchain if they like, just like you can easily still cast negative vote weight (if you want to and know how to :)
maybe that clarifies a bit because despite my what did you call it
painstakingly detailed lol (i dont think thats far off, @mobbs called it "bouncing off the wall, i dont think thats far off either depending on the moment and time of day :D)
i know it can be very chaotic because i am, by nature, a force of chaos :))
big @scipio just asked me not five minutes ago to shut up for two seconds, and thats the whole thing
23.5 hours a day , i say absolutely nothing :p , now i have to check for my weekly physics lesson @lemouth, thanks for the vote btw, that rarely happens on comments :D
so if you ask me, if @steem-ua has one task ahead of it , its certainly not regulation or censorship, definitely not steering by opinion, but moving beyond the simple-yet-most advance algorithm into deep learning so comments not voted on can be rated by quality and incorporated in the score, i think i have half a bible of those hahah
actually an a.i. like that might sell for facebook money lol , its above my braingrade i'm sure but so is a lot of stuff
as for the money-thing, i simply dont have much other income, im seriously damaged goods and i don't roll with the team because i simply cant do it anymore, and i fail whats wrong with money and i doubt anyone except people coming inhere with a mille or supermarketing will disagree, and i also seriously dont see where i'm lacking in content and delivery for that matter lol ;-)
other than that, my daylight mostly goes to doing dishes and cleaning house with a few comments in between, since there's no one but me to do that here atm, so i'm really gonna have to
cut this short
ah, wait ...
i remember something i read yesterday, on one of the topics : on how ridiculous things get these days and how people miss out on a zound of ideas by focusing on zbeliing, being gremmar nazis
and things like this :
https://developers.slashdot.org/story/18/09/13/1523229/python-joins-movement-to-dump-offensive-master-slave-terms
offensive master-slave terms ....
thing is, i can actually see all those highpowered brainiacs sitting around a table holding a deep-night meeting and taking themselves very seriously while discussing this grave issue and neglecting to push for progress instead ...
and then some because (oh and thats another thing) as long as the next hardfork doesnt fix that silly idea to keep all of it on the blockchain, every single edit, instead of using hybrid tek , and giving it a 24 hour period before it gets locked in or something
after editing this comment six or sevent times (not altering, it just means i wrote more at the bottom, i dont like to correct myself because that doesnt make it real or spontaneaous and by the time i get to the seventh edit im probably on a different head park than when i started) its gonna be a lot of clutter if every post gets locked in completely for every single letter, dot or comma edited
and then some but i really have to start dinner and stuff :)
but tell me, after these two fine comments and whatever else i wrote wherever my UA score is still the same as days ago, why is that ?
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Because @Steemit is a stake weighted beauty contest.😊
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, @RudyardCatling
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hahahah, stake weighted beauty contest roflmao , thats a nice way of saying it, that's why i dont rely on posts that cost six hours or a week of research to write, after one year here i have concluded its simply not worth it, but the comments make for nice conversation, interesting and stimulating at times :D
i think steemit is a nice representation of "IRL" , you got the 1% ers , you got the 99%ers you got the dark side, you got the enforcers, you got nothing but pop and crud on the prime-time channels and thats what gets the mullah, but still i think there's a lot of beauty underneath it, not everyone would like #steemstem or stuff from the global homesteading collective(which i suppose comes down to keywords like independence - sustainability and living off the grid), i personally simply cant bring myself to be driven mad by the monsters craze ... i wholeheartedly agree
oh, its feeding time :p
see you around @nigelmarkdias
should be safe to consider the comment readable as im gonna shut down the pc in a bit haha
or maybe just one more, as i keep telling people its not "rudy" but kiplings cat, the cat that walks by himself, not a teamplayer, not very mister community, some would say distant or not very personal but i feel like just one bubble in the universe is too restrictive so i reserve the right to come and go as i please (unless i'm kicked out :p), sit by the fire and drink the warm, white milk as i have received three words of praise in my name
gud ... in the meantime MY cat saw the opportunity to steal my food lol ... impatient little man he is
so i bid thee not a bot but bye
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Take care, sir.
It's still daylight here.
We probably have the world's most loyal Jim Reeves fan.
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dubai huh, isnt that where all the rich people in the world live ?
in another life when i had friends and stuff (and a life) i knew an engineer who helped with the construction of the artificial islands there for De Nul (firm) , he got paid a bit better than what you would get here, lol
its an ungodly hour omg "it" woke me up at rising chickens, it just never stops trying, this is gonna be a lost day
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I will answer you a bit later. A bit busy for now. Sorry ^^
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there's no timetable here, sensei, certainly no need for apologies :)
besides, people who don't keep an agenda are never late
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I have my own agenda ;)
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Do you check if people have voted for witnesses? That may be a good way to judge engagement and also incentivise voting for witnesses
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That made it about as clear as you can make a glass of muddy water, only to determine what you thought was a glass of muddy water is in reality a glass of extra strong guinness stout black beer. But as I am comfortable with where I am and who I follow, and am not trying to learn what I can do to get a better score so I can improve my UA artificially, I am fine with your answer. Keep as dark as guinness stout and never clear the air or water on what it takes to increase your UA score, or we end up with another broken reputation representation.
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Cheers! ;-)
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yep, I'll be following and unfollowing people based on if I think they are interesting (or not!). Not on if it might affect some mysterious "UA" score that I have no reason to care about.
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I just gave you 100% upvote for not providing an easy 'gaming' solution.
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hahaha - I like your way of thinking! 🙂
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Although I guess if you want some kind of idea how its calculated all you really have to do is find a range of ranks/ UA scores from people's omments and then compare that with their user data - xomments, followers etx..10 would give you some idea.
Then again this all might change.
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Well, to be honest, I don't.
I mean, I would like to know how (is calculated) just like an info that I think should be transparent, but not as something I should adjust my actions. Sorry, but I don't believe in that!
I'm watching Google for over 10 years changing algorithms to prevent all sorts of abusers and quick-money-hunters trying to fool the system. At the end of the day, those who want to crack the system always (sooner or later) find the way how to do it until the algorithm is not changed again.
It turns to be an everlasting hide and seek game between greedy and more greedy ones. But the worst part is when the creators of the system and algorithms who instead of protecting its core purpose join the fooling the system game as well when it comes to their own benefits and taking the advantage.
And that's exactly what Google did for its own content, stores, services, etc. and therefore lost many cases in Europe for one sided manipulation and monopolization.
Unfortunately the situation on Steemit is not any different. There are good core investors, developers and witnesses (whales), but there are also those who care only about their current profits and to whom present situation and settings suit perfectly well. So well that they don't even care if it might hurt them in the long run, as they apparently believe they would run away (if they didn't already) with their bag full of money. And even if it's not the money (only), they certainly don't want to give up of the power they currently have.
Greed for the power has always been the stronger and greater human greed than the greed for the money.
Also, in past two years that I have been here on Steemit, I witnessed many changes (some for better, some for worse), but any of those changes didn't seriously deal with the main platform problems which from my point of view are spam, scam, plagiarism and copyright infringements, and even less with organic user's and its content visibility and reputation.
For that those who hold the power to make a change would have to have a very big and strong guts to face the truth of their own (un)popularity without self-pumping, inside closed circle each other supporting, and all other same or similar methods currently in use.
Therefore, I support this steem-ua initiative, as if nothing else, and in less than a month, clearly showed (through received support) how vast majority of active users are sick of the current situation.
On the other hand, although it might help us to gain and see some improvements on the platform, unfortunately, I don't believe it would make a big difference as long as our trending and hot pages wouldn't look different and as long as this "steem-ua score" wouldn't be able to truly affect everyone of us including those who write and implement current system functionality rules.
Having all of the above in mind, and from my point of view, how UA score is calculated is not that important.
More important is who we really are, how we behave (treat our readers and followers), what we have to offer, etc.
In my opinion, only that might define true survivals and successful ones, as at the end of the day, same as with (though the past years) Google algorithm changes, those are the only ones who would keep honest, true and loyal supporters and followers no matter of the kind of change and calculation.
The good system can only help them to find and gain them sooner and easier while the bad one makes their path harder and longer. That's the only difference!
(Sorry for such a long reply!)
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Wow - you should win an award for the length of that reply..Absolutely no need to apologise.
To summarise - it's the ethos/ integrity of UA you like, it's not about the numbers - me too - anything that supports engagement.
I actually do pretty well out of Google's SEO on my other blog (my name here)... and I have no idea how their rankings are calculated... I just keep focused on churning quality content.
NB - the reason steeminc won't sort out all the issues you mention is 'cos they don't give a toss about steemit in the long term - it's all about the dapps, of course they can all be 'gamed' as well I'm sure.
At the end of the day life on here is much easier if you just act with a bit of integrity, even if it is amidst abuse!
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You got me! 😊
It seems that we are on the same page or wavelength regarding this one, and I'm glad that we are!
It's always a pleasure to meet someone who cares about some true values!
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Yup - well met!
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well @scipio , i hate to nag but i still havent heard what the selection procedure is , do i just click the delegation link and do it or do you have to screen it first ? i dont want to delegate to find out you dont accept
not that i think there will be a problem
as shown here :
i just would like confirmation first
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consider that answered then :p
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I add delegation. It's I like...
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Thx! And welcome to @steem-ua !
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Oh thanks for the explainer! Kinda hard for me to follow every single projects discord or telegram :)
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If you gotta choose one, then pick the steem-ua Discord! ;-)
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I tend to keep following only a few people because I don't want to clutter up my feed (most posts I'm interested in come via two or three tags so I just look at the newest posts there). Do I hurt my UA-Score with that? And if this score is calculated via "chain of follow" wouldn't I hurt my followers with not following the people whose posts I read?
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Solid following approach! I do the same!
And nope, no worries on your UA_Account score / rank for doing so!
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Thanks for the answer :)
And how do "dead" accounts count? I clean up regularly - why should I follow people where there's been nothing to follow for weeks? (Using Steempeak these Steemians get a bookmark there and I take a look every now and then to see whether someone became active again)
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I totally agree with you on this
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good post
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Excellent post, hopefully I can work to increase my UA score following your explanation. Keep up the good work 😁
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How do I use ua? Sorry
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https://steempeak.com/ua/@scipio/steem-ua-let-s-unite-my-open-letter-to-all-accounts
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Thanks for the update @steem-ua! I will be working on my score! 😎
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Wowzers, rank #217 is not too shabby! Trying to get there myself! ;-)
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💪🏼🙌🏼💯
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Appreciate the explanation @steem-ua; it's an exciting initiative... still trying to understand all the bits and pieces.
I have noticed that on some posts, there is a comment by @steem-ua, sharing the poster's and the post's rank, but not on others. I thought this was maybe related to the highest ranked posts/posters in the Steemit ecosystem, but earlier today I came across one where the poster was ranked 20000-something. What's the common thread there?
Thanks in advance!
=^..^=
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The text is different on @utopian-io posts, could it be that?
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Greetings, everyone. That aspect is clearer now. Thanks for addressing these questions.
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Thank you for this beautiful information, to make it easier to use Steemit .
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I have a couple of weeks approximately in the Discord channel of Steem-UA, but it seems to me that there are some processes that I do not understand, and so, before interacting I wanted to document myself, to proceed with the selection of the right path, which I must follow within the community that they represent. Thank you for this information. It is very useful for me...!
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Yes, been catching up on all this. Sounds like its progressing well.
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Good explanation. Thanks! :-)
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I am all for this. Thanks for the post @steem-ua. Upvoted and resteemed. My ua score is still 0 so I guess I got lots of curating still to do. My own post will be awhile.
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I just had an interesting conversation with @ura-soul where we discussed the pro and cons of steem-ua. You already resteemed his post which I found very informative. https://steemit.com/steem/@ura-soul/steem-ua-my-thoughts-possible-integration-into-steemocean-com-and-what-me-being-ranked-125-on-steem-ua-might-mean-in-reality
I added the following idea as well to the comments and maybe you can give me a feedback as well on this idea. Here is my text that I posted.
Thanks for your good explanation @ura-soul. I like your generosity concept it would be great to measure who is really supporting the Steem community at a wider range.
What comes to my mind in this whole discussion is that it would be nice to have different steem-ua measurement tools for different purposes. For example lets use Steem-ua for ranking posts in the trending section. Lets use your generosity Index to determine who is sharing and spreading the Steempower effectively. Lets create Steem-IA for investors to measure who is willing to hold on to its stake when it comes to Airdrops of SMT ( for example your score would be lower if you power down or if you selling steem, but higher if you hold on to Steem power and if you are a buyer of Steem). Or lets create Steem-DA for developers.
Therefore different measurement tools would be more effective and would fit more to the different kinds of users on Steem ( content creators, investors, developers, witnesses) could focus more on their field of interest.
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Proud to be involved with the project! I am at the point in my journey in which I need to focus o. increasing my engagement and metrics like these will definitely help me monitor my progress. I am hoping that my normal activity here in the community will do this as I have been expanding my exposure to other content I normmaly do not see on my feed.
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Interesting so far... I have delegated 25 SP for the project and last week I've increased it to 100 SP. Still waiting for the update to be reflected. :-P
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I don't mind having a ua score of 4.
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I think the most important part, based on my feedback from Steem-Ua's comments was initially to increase engagement with people leaving me comments. I've been doing that since noticing; and have been watching my rank slowly increase, as that's been my one area of weakness previously.
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Yeah, same here. I've also started to comment more on the posts of my followers. It's been a smart move to incentivate it :-)
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Well, I haven't had much time to look into Steem UA since its inception. But considering the fact that I have been hearing feedbacks from friends, and with this repository I should consider getting on the train with others before its get late.
Thank you @steem-ua
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I published an article 2 days ago, and included some Steem-UA things in there... So I'll give it a shot and include that here too.
Even though I don't know exactly how the ranking works, it seems to me that the evaluation comments you get along with the steem-ua votes are based on three things:
You don't have to tell me the correct answer, but I've come to this conclusion due to what the comments from Steem-UA says about my content. I usually get two type of comments:
Example 1:
Example 2
However, I've been streaming on @dlive for about a month now, and my dlive posts usually gets 0 comments. 1 or 2 if I'm lucky, and that's the reason I write this.
That was a comment I got on one of my dlive posts. I had 2 comments prior to this one.
This Steem-UA comment told me to work on user engagement, which is pretty odd, as I usually get replies about how my user engagement is good.
So, due to this, I started to wonder if Steem-UA took the amount of comments into consideration for the rankings, and if they are, I'd obviously want you to reconsider this.
Because this basically means that, vloggers and people who're adding a bunch of text in their @dlive posts would be able to attract comments on the posts, (hence increasing their Steem-UA rankings), meanwhile gaming related content will not, as most people interact in the chat while looking at gaming streams. (The majority of the time)
And that would obviously hurt any gamers overall UA-ranking.
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I want to work with @steem-ua. What is the procedure ?
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Thanks for making it more easy to understand.
I will try to increase my ua score by following tricks provided by you.
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Hello @scipio, hello @holger80 - 2nd inquiry...
I'm not in your list https://steem-ua.com/delegators
Something seems to go wrong...
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It is fixed now, database is fixed now
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It is fixed now, thanks for your patience.
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I see many talking about your scoring system. Talk of modifying how they behave here. I hope that trend doesn't continue or it defeats the idea of a social platform.
Just curious, since this seems to be something many are pushing to replace the current reputations system. Do you foresee a time that one does not have to log in to look at their score? I do not use my passwords anywhere but here at Steemit, no Steemconnect or anywhere else. I have no idea who those people are and would never give them (or any of the other apps) possession of my keys.
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I've had a look at some of the posts ranked according to your UA algorithm. There are some stinkers doing well in the rankings. I think you have a lot of work to do to prove that your rankings have value.
I wish you all the best and I want you to succeed. We really need a better way to rank posts than what we have now. I already think you surpassed our existing system. That though is a very low bar. Bots have completely destroyed 'proof-of-brain' on this platform.
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Is the curation reward from @steem-ua delegation over?
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To be honest, especially considering that end of the day upvotes and thus financial rewards are involved, any explanation beyond the information already provided - and even rehashing of such - risks to incentivize not organic behavior and bought interaction.
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i was wondering if there's an easy-to-access API so i can embed the score and rank in my statistics i use in certain posts directly with curl or something (i dont use python) that doesnt require steemconnect first ?
there must be since smartsteem displays the score ... but i guess i'll ask on discord tomorrow
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It definitely works (just checked my score)! :-)
Thanks for building this up and finding a way to incentivate user engagement on the blockchain. It's a concept that has been missing for a long time.
Keep it up!
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OMG !!! 0?
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I've just increased my delegation from 100 to 250SP. Thanks steem-ua :)
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Seems a bug on https://steem-ua.com/stats
It thought it'd be fixed soon, but it's still like this at least for several days. or i may misunderstand something? why the sum isn't 100%?
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