Ok, so you are allowed to vote for whoever you want - including yourself, and there is technically nothing wrong with doing so. In the Steemit paper, it even says that it is OK to do. So why shouldn't you? You only get 20 votes per 24 hours that carry their full weight. After that, the weight of your Steem Power starts to go down. That means you have 20 votes a day that you can make fully count. Think about all of the amazing content that is being posted, which goes basically unnoticed? You know how it feels to have just posted some amazing content, and then sit there and wait, patiently, hoping someone comes along and upvotes your post. So go out there and make someone's day. Upvote someone else's posts! Make your 20 votes per day count!
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Thanks! I’ve been upvoting the crap out of my own stuff, but you are right! I’ll make someone else’s day, and maybe they’ll take notice and do the same, thanks Timcliff
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I've started with upvote myself in every single comment that I made, but I don't do this anymore. I was trying to powerup my account, but it doesn't work. So, I start to upvote others posts that I like and voilá, it works!
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Did you honestly see an uptick from upvoting others post vs your own? I'm honestly super happy if that's the case because that's generally how I operate. The more people sticking to a realistic upvoting, the better content we will get to see.
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I had no idea we only get 20 votes per day. Or is this an old post and things have changed since then?
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You should be fine to vote as often as you'd like (within reason). Here is a post with more info.
https://steemit.com/minnowsupportproject/@timcliff/minnow-voting-it-is-still-ok-to-vote-40-times-a-day
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Well this just got my upvote :)
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I guess If you posted something really brilliant with a lot of hard work put into it, It's okay to give it an up yourself. but maybe ease a little with upvoting every post you make
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Thank you! I've been slightly unclear on this subject for a bit as I'm still relatively new. Appreciate the write up.
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Great to know! I had no idea! Much thanks!
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If everyone wants to vote for themselves I don't see the issue. They have determined that the content they want to see on steemit is their own and only their own. It is a weird way to promote and expand the platform, but to each their own. Also keep in mind, the people voting for themselves or creating voting bots are usually the ones with $11 of steempower.
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@timcliff Upvoting because it's an important topic but I totally disagree with you here.
Upvoting doesn't hurt anything, even yourself. Yes after awhile it starts to impact the dollar value of your vote, but if you're a minnow your vote has almost no dollars.
Deplete the power to 0 each day, upvote and comment as much as you can and vote up everything you say. This will increase your power dramatically. Look at my history I've been here less than 2 weeks and have earned everything I have despite drawing off my steem dollars daily and using it to wine and dine friends to get them to come here.
So be generous with your upvotes even to yourself. You're spreading a little love and kindness and even a tiny amount of money around.
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Thanks for the reply. It is an interesting point of discussion. It does say that if you vote more than 20 times that the weight of your vote goes down, so the point of my article was that you could maximize 'spreading the love' if you spent 100% of your upvoting on other people's posts.
I've actually found another situation where it seems OK/good to upvote yourself, and that is if you aren't going to have time to read and find 20 other good pieces of content to vote on within 24 hours. In that case, your remaining votes would be 'wasted' so you might as well upvote yourself if you think it is good content.
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If all you do (William Banks) is resteem other's posts, how is it that you have earned so much SP? Did you fund your account initially? You did say you earned it but I don't see where.
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If I were to up vote lets say 100 posts, would my vote not carry full weight for 5 days?
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There is info on this in the FAQ. As a short answer, 40 votes per 24 hours is the amount you can cast without depleting your voting power at a rate faster than it replenishes.
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There's definitely a benefit to upvoting yourself when you're commenting on other peoples' posts, though. For example, doing so - if you have even half-way decent voting power (which doesn't take that long to get) can boost your reply higher up in the chain of comments, making it more visible. Not as necessary when there's not a lot of comments to begin with, but helpful when trying to stick out in a crowd.
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Thanks for the tip!
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Great argument! Settled! Thank you. :)
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In my opinion, we should not do more than 10 upvotes per day for saving your voting power and steem power. Post was useful for me. Catch my upvote
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You should read: https://steemit.com/minnowsupportproject/@timcliff/minnow-voting-it-is-still-ok-to-vote-40-times-a-day
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Makes sense
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I had no idea how this worked and I bet a lot of new people like me didnt know either. Good info to know!
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Sorry to be the party breaker, but:
Yes there are 20 Votes per day that carry 100% vote power, that doesn't mean that you should vote only 20 times per day. As long as your voting power isn't below say like 40% your good, especially if you don't have much steem power. Also 40% is just my personal opinion, you can go lower if you want.
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The ideal number of times to vote in a 24 hour period is 20. Any more and your votes carry less than 5% weight. Any less, and you leave 'full 5%' votes unused.
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Elaborate more please.
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The maximum that it will spend on any one vote is 5% of your voting power. You can only use 100% of your voting power in a 24 hour period. Imagine you start the day fresh with 100% voting power.
If you vote 10 times within the 24 hour period, you will use up 50% of your voting power. The other 50% would not have been used. This would technically be a 'waste', because you could have upvoted 10 more posts without affecting the weight of your other votes.
If you upvote 30 posts in the 24 hour period, then you will be over the limit of 20. I don't know exactly how the math works, but just for simplification sake - it would mean each of your votes only used about 3.3% of your voting power, which is less than the 5% that would have been used if you only voted on 20 posts.
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Well that's why I asked for a clarification, to see how much do you know about this, you heard from someone that you should vote 20 times per day and you made a post about it? Well It's not true man, you can check your voting power Here. Now let me explain. What you heard was, that 20 votes in a 24hr period carry 100% voting power, if you vote more your power will go down, But it takes a lot of votes per day to bring that power down to say 40%. So you and me bringing our voting power down to 40% would't mean much, since we don't have high SP anyways, but this affects whales the most since they have high SP power, but In my experience whales do vote a lot!. Conclusion is: You should vote how much you want and the system encourages you to vote more, to be active and provides rewards for that. The 40% power is just my personal figure on how low I would go.
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We hit the 6 levels of comment nesting, so I'll reply here.
The Steem White Paper does talk about this in the "Rate Limiting" section. "Through rate limiting, stakeholders who vote more frequently have each vote cout less than stakeholders who vote less frequently." It doesn't specifically say what the limits are, but the graph shows a fairly dramatic drop if a lot of votes occur within what looks like the 24 hour mark.
I have come across the explanation for this in a lot of posts. In @fbdan's comment to this post, it says pretty much exactly what I said here. In this highly rated article, it also says the same thing under the "Vote! Vote! Vote!" section.
I am not saying I am 100% certain of this, and I would be willing to admit that I'm wrong if I could see evidence showing it works a different way, but in most of the material that I have read about how voting works, it explains it the way that I am describing here.
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The graph in not good anymore. This was the old version. Now every time you vote your voting power goes down .5% and slowly get back to 100% in 36 minutes.
You should read the ultimate guide par1 and 2 if you haven't. Good luck. www.steemwatch.com brought me here.
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I agree with the opinion of the author
20 upvote is too small to vote for yourself and others.
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ARGH! only 20 full weighted votes? Does this include blogs AND comments? Well, I'm glad I'm learning this now since I'm fresh steem but it makes me hesitate on how many people I should be following. That kind of stinks!
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I actually don't know the answer to that. I am pretty sure the answer is 'yes' though. Hoping someone with more Steemit knowledge than me can confirm/deny.
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I had no idea that we could use 20 full powered votes/day, thanks for that! Upvoted!
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