RE: New Study Linking Aluminum Adjuvants in Vaccines to Autism-Like Symptoms in Mice. Important Information.

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New Study Linking Aluminum Adjuvants in Vaccines to Autism-Like Symptoms in Mice. Important Information.

in vaccines •  7 years ago 

"People need to research for themselves"

You're right, it does look like people like you need to do research for themselves.

3rd result on duckduckgo:
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/aluminum-causes-autism-shaw-tomljenovic-vaccine/


There is no link between vaccines, or aluminum in vaccines, with autism. None. The vast bulk of really high quality science outweighs this study by orders of magnitude that are beyond description.

Shaw and Tomljenovic are not credible researchers.

They are essentially paid shills of the anti-vaccine industry.

They have had papers retracted, and their research was described by WHO as “seriously flawed.“

This research was poorly executed using outdated equipment and outdated techniques for DNA analysis.

If we are to accept research that changes our fundamental policies about life saving vaccines, then we need powerful evidence to make that change. This isn’t it.

So about the hypothesis that aluminum causes autism? This study does not support that, not even close.


Vaccines save lives. LIVES. AS IN HUMAN BEINGS.

If you want to challenge this you better have some SOLID evidence to support it because peoples lives are at stake.

And to the OP:

"As always, I am amused and suprised by the hot contestations of the "pro-science" crowd when data emerges which challenges their specific socio-political narrative."

It's pretty obvious if you had any evidence to support your ideas you wouldn't need to make up a big conspiracy like we're all idiots and you're the cool kids on the block who are so much smarter than the guys who dedicate their lives to saving lives.

You would present the evidence, the scientific community would be upset, they'd all cry, they'd be hurt and apologise profusely.

I imagine there'd be massive compensation payouts and questions like: "how did billions of dollars of research into vaccines and autism not pickup something these two paid shills didn't?".

But it's obvious you haven't got shit, so you write shit like "socio-political narrative." as if you're being so cool, edgy and hip, which I'm sure you are.

Speaking of when do your herbal remedies go on sale? I can't wait to drink some nice healing tea that I'm sure will make me feel good but do absolutely jack all to save thousands of children dying every week in Pakistan from vaccine preventable diseases.

You read "thousands of children dying every week" and don't feel a thing because you're so far removed from the cold harsh reality in part thanks to vaccines.

Go away death merchant, it's obvious you're either a paid shill or so biased you can't actually do any proper research.

btw climate change is happening and we're the main cause of it, the earth is round, we landed on the moon, 9/11 was done by middle eastern terrorists who hate America, Egyptians built the pyramids without the help of aliens, and Elvis is dead...

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My son was vaccine injured and you apparently are the troll I was referring would be brought out by this. I have done my own research, I don't blindly believe governments or doctors anymore because they have a history of lying to the people that and I was told these vaccines were safe but they were not my son was injured from them. I was lied to, and saw with my own eyes what happened to him.

Totaly agree with you. Have you ever checked @canadian-coconut she is always writing great posts about vaccinations by doing lots of research. I myself don't trust the doctors very much and that is why I take care of my health and my families health naturally and I teach people how to do the same.

Yes I follow her. And experience has taught me not to trust doctors blindly

Yes, I had experiences where I couldn't really trust the doctors, so now I'm taking care of my families health naturally using plant-based medicine; essential oils and I teach people how to do the same.

So do I. We have to know how to heal ourselves now. We can no longer rely on this untrustworthy system of leaders. Returning to the land & studying the ways of our ancestors teaches us that everything we need is already provided by Mother Earth. #natureheals

Absolutely. God provided us with all natural medicine to take care of our health.

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As far as I have checked her posts, she hasn't made much research but looking only into articles and experts with wrong information. There are some good points every now and then though.

There is no link between vaccines, or aluminum in vaccines, with autism. None. The vast bulk of really high quality science outweighs this study by orders of magnitude that are beyond description.

Shaw and Tomljenovic are not credible researchers.

They are essentially paid shills of the anti-vaccine industry.

They have had papers retracted, and their research was described by WHO as “seriously flawed.“

This research was poorly executed using outdated equipment and outdated techniques for DNA analysis.

Sorry, but copy/pasting claims not substantiated by argumentation/evidence is not a valid argument, clearly, and has no scientific merit. I'll wait for your evidenced-based substantiation of the above claims.

Vaccinating with human body parts can cause the recipient to produce antibodies to human tissue. Children produce antibodies to every component of the vaccine, and not simply the viruses. This can cause demylination of the nerves and auto-immune disorders. Children who have been vaccinated with MMR and later suffered autism have been found to have antibodies to their own brain tissue, and this may be a consequence of using foetal tissue in MMR. ‘Susana C. Silva, Catarina Correia and Astrid M. Vicente at the Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Oeiras, Portugal and colleagues studied the blood of a large sample of individuals - 171 patients, 191 parents and 54 healthy controls - and report that autistic patients are in fact characterised by presenting in their blood high levels of non-inherited antibodies against the body’s brain tissue.’ (Dr Catarina Amorim; Journal of Neuroimmunology; Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Observatório da Ciência e do Ensino Superior, Portugal; July 23, 2004).

Evidence based are the children themselves who have been compensated and or are waiting in court.

There are some 5,000 petitions alleging a causal link between certain vaccines and autism spectrum disorders that are currently pending in an omnibus proceeding in the Court of Federal Claims (Vaccine Court).
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf

But it's obvious you haven't got shit, so you write shit like "socio-political narrative." as if you're being so cool, edgy and hip, which I'm sure you are.

Speaking of when do your herbal remedies go on sale?

Is there an herbal remedy for whiny trolling? If so, sign me up! ;)

Go away death merchant

Lol. Keep going and see what happens.

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Let me mute you. So much better.