RE: Clarification of my stance on vaccines, and why mandatory vaccination is definitely an issue pertinent to Anarcho-Capitalism/Voluntaryism. PLUS: OPEN INVITATION TO FORMAL DEBATE.

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Clarification of my stance on vaccines, and why mandatory vaccination is definitely an issue pertinent to Anarcho-Capitalism/Voluntaryism. PLUS: OPEN INVITATION TO FORMAL DEBATE.

in vaccines •  7 years ago 

Do you even science, bro? Did you just say injecting something bypasses part of the immune system?

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Do you even know what the scientific method is or how it works? How about the structure of the English language? Bro.

The only worse injection site than injecting pathogens and/or toxins into the body or blood would be to inject it directly into the brain. Yes, it bypasses the formidable 'first responders' of the immune system.

The entire point to vaccination is to expose someone to a pathogen. It's the only way your body is going to learn to fight it. What gets injected is far weaker, and in less volume, than if you naturally come in contact with the disease.

At least I'll be able to say that my children will likely never get another child sick with something that I can help prevent.

The entire point to vaccination that we are fed by the industry is based on lies. This is clearly demonstrated by the increase in polio cases where vaccination was employed.
http://vaxtruth.org/2012/03/the-polio-vaccine-part-2-2/

Don't worry, the references are at the bottom of the article.

You can say that your children will likely never get another child sick with something that you can help prevent, but will it be true?

“A huge proportion of your immune system is actually in your GI tract,” says Dan Peterson, assistant professor of pathology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/research/advancements-in-research/fundamentals/in-depth/the-gut-where-bacteria-and-immune-system-meet

The GI tract is part of the digestive system. Last I heard an arm or leg, where they usually give the shot, is not part of the digestive system.

Maybe someone else needs to science.

Edited to add: Do you have the stats for the "tons" of children dying from the measles yet btw? Or an answer to @lifeworship's question?

I have like six people responding to everything I say. No, I don't have the time to do a bunch of google searches to prove my point to people who I don't care to sway. I have children to take care of. Arguing with anti-vaxxers is kinda like arguing with faith. It's pointless for me to continue

It seems to me that those who don't have time to do research are the ones living on faith alone.

Your frustration in arguing may lie in the fact that you have presented NO actual arguments.

I've done nothing but give actual arguments. But because I'm not posting google links, nothing I say is valid? Have a nice life...

Do you mean 'arguments' like "do you even science bro?" or "I don't have time to research", or belief, faith, appeal to personal incredulity?

You might want to brush up on your logic, what you have is not serving you very well, and it won't serve those for whom you are responsible.

Eat a dick. Who the fuck are you to tell me my logic doesn't serve my children very well? I've done my research, I just don't have time to do some pointless fucking link searching to prove to you ignorant fucks that doctors aren't trying to injure children...

I've been fairly nice to this point, but now you've pissed me off. If you ever met my children, you wouldn't say stupid shit like that. I have a very well mannered, polite four year old who is smarter than half the fucks who think that all the doctors in the world have come together in some great conspiracy to harm children. I'm done with this. You won't get another response from me.

There we are. That's the reasonless rage I thought I'd encounter when asking for a reasoned argument.

I never mentioned your children specifically, but only that I would hope for better for the people who depend on you, than unreasoned, obedience to authority.

Here is the quote that you skillfully misunderstood and immediately misconstrued to say that I was insulting your progeny.

"what you have is not serving you very well, and it won't serve those for whom you are responsible."

But just to humor you... The World Health Organization states that around 145,000 people died from measles in 2013 alone.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/mmrdeaths.asp

Sorry, but Snopes is no better than wikipedia, which I purposely stayed away from in any of my comments on this article.

We can agree to disagree and even find other topics we can agree on. I can respect you have to do what you think is best for your children. But I should also be respected for doing what I think is best for mine. :)

So long as it doesn't affect others.

that statement cuts both ways