How Veganism Compelled Me To Change My Habits: Following Logic and Admitting My Wrongs.

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One of the best things I’ve done in my life outside of forging the single most important relationship in my life (with my beloved Hayley, of course), is becoming vegan.

As a male vegan, I’m a minority of a minority – albeit, a very quickly growing minority.

Making the conscious decision to change my way of life and eating back around 2012 marked a point in my life that ended up being a save point. I was never going back to the start of the game. I never want to participate in the mass death and exploitation of animals that is simplified, watered down and called an industry. In a human context, this is called genocide. Heated language? You bet.

Social transformation is never easy. It will pit you against your own friends when you threaten their cultural norms.

I don’t think it has ever been easy for me insofar as having to deal with uneducated and ignorant people pushing their own beliefs on me after having to politely let staff know that I won’t be participating in the Melbourne Cup stakes or eating the cake made on eggs and milk. As any seasoned vegan will tell you, they’ve heard this line a zillion times. When I see it coming, I interject and steal those words right out of their mouth. Especially when I’m feeling a bit cocky or I’m not in the mood for niceties;

How do you know if someone’s vegan? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

I’m not sure how this saying ever got so much traction, and I guess I’m not helping to stop it in it’s tracks by repeating it, but it at least needs to be addressed.

As a vegan, there’s so much food I eat and I love it. From fruit sorbets, lasagne, pizza, roasts and falafel I’m spoiled for choice.

Vegan pizza from Melbourne's Red Sparrow, an all-vegan pizza place.

However, to avoid contributing to worldwide animal use and abuse, I do avoid eating and buying meat and animal derivatives to dry up the supply of these products. Supply and demand is a simple economic theory based on the fact if people buy a product, it is in the interest of the seller to make more of it. If no one is buying a particular product now, they are unlikely to buy it later. Thus there is no profit to be made in attempting to sell an unwanted product. In order for me to avoid those products, I need to know what’s in them. If you’re at a restaurant or with friends, you need to tell people you’re vegan. If I never interacted with people and just had to read ingredient lists, the saying would probably be more like;

How do you know if someone’s vegan? Don’t worry, they’ll be the ones scrutinizing the ingredient lists.

Doesn’t have the same punch to it, does it?

Anyone actively supporting positive change, is going to talk. And let me tell you, when I first went vegan, I made quite the fuss!

Prior to becoming vegan, I ate every food I came across. I really didn’t discriminate. I ate red meat, poultry, dairy, eggs and never read an ingredients list. I became a vegetarian when I decided to get more involved in meditation and Buddhist teachings, part of which discouraged harming or eating the flesh of animals (which was a direct result of lethal harm), as that being may have been a mother of mine in a past life. This was bad karma! Big setback to Nirvana. Off limits, you see. During this time, I also took a course in environmental ethics and values during my university days. The course aimed at looking at the spectrum of how humanity treats the environment and those beings who inhabit it. It ranged from Gaia Theory where the actual world is mother earth and you need to treat her with the utmost respect, all the way to the embodiment of large mining companies bent on ripping, tearing and harvesting the Earth’s resources.

“Animal rights” was on the end toward Gaia theory. This was my first in-depth, academic look into why we should abolish animal slavery.

I was particularly fascinated with two outstanding authors and ethicists – Peter Singer and Tom Regan (pronounced Raygun). The videos below are absolutely worth watching in a setting by yourself, late afternoon with a gentle warmth on your face with headphones, preferably sipping some hibiscus tea. Specific much? Hehe. I really love setting the mood for many of life’s activities! I have my special comic reading spot, too.

On a serious note, it will make you think,

“Oh, shit. They’re just right and I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time.”

Well, it did for me.

Peter Singer discusses animal ethics with Richard Dawkins.

Tom Regan on the Late Late Show in Part 1 of 4.

Around the same time, I watched Earthlings. I already came to the vegan conclusion before watching this film. My logic was;

“Yeah, why the hell am I eating animals if they feel pain and I don’t need to in order to thrive?”

Holy shit. This film almost scarred me for life. I didn’t watch the whole thing and really, you shouldn’t. If you’re already a vegan and convinced of your path, DO NOT WATCH THIS FILM.

I implore anyone who eats animals and their products to watch the film until they get a gut reaction.

Once you get that, your mind will be made up. Do yourself a favour and don’t traumatise yourself any longer, just ditch the meat, eggs and dairy to remove yourself from the system of exploitation. With the transition, comes a free soapbox to use at your discretion!

Where do you draw the line? Can I eat oysters and insects?

Tom Regan says to draw a line with a pencil. When we find out more information about the ability of an animal to feel pain and suffer, it will allow us to make better decisions as to what we ought to eat based on moral grounds. I don’t eat insects and oysters because I don’t need to! It’s also probably not ideal to consume filter feeders that may accumulate toxins and heavy metals.

One of the most compelling arguments that I was faced with upon my journey through these waters is that if a being can feel pain, joy and happiness, then I have a moral obligation to not harm that animal unless it was justifiable.

Is killing pigs, sheep, cows, poultry or fish justifiable?

Considering that there are often huge debates in Australia when a surfer is inevitably bitten by a shark as to whether the shark should be killed, I think it’s high time people look at their own dinner plate or breakfast bowl. And for what it’s worth, killing the shark would be a stupid idea – it’s often a case of mistaken identity (human paddling on surfboard looks a lot like a seal) and it’s a risk you take when you enter the domain of a frightening apex predator. I suppose this dispels the myth that humans are atop the food chain, right?

Is the animal an immediate source of danger?

If you happen to be walking through a forest on a trail and a hidden snake strikes, your reaction may be to run or to kick the snake. If you harmed the snake in defence, it would seem justifiable.

Does the animal need to be killed for sustenance?

While I will most definitely write more on the topic of nutrition (despite not being a nutritionist!), considering the healthiest people on the planet – those that live in blue zones consume little to no meat or animal products, it would stand to reason that we could actually benefit by not eating animal products.

Does the consumption of animals benefit the environment?

As we face the largest environmental worldwide threat that is climate change, the agricultural industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than the entire transportation sector, largely attributed to methane production from cows. Interestingly, people often argue that it is better for cows to live outside eating grass and enjoying the sunshine. Of course, this is all before it’s grizzly end. While I totally agree, a good life would involve a cow being in its natural environment eating grass, cows burp more methane on a diet of grass than of grain. The ability to feed cows grain is a temptation that often encourages farmers to keep more animals in a smaller space in muddy, eroding tracts of land in less than favourable conditions. Short answer: If you’re looking to reduce greenhouse emissions, it’s time to stop breeding cows for consumption.

When or if you become a vegan, you’ll feel a torrent of emotions hit you all at once. Well, you’ll probably just get angry. Really Angry.

Have you ever seen someone kick a dog in public? Maybe a parent belt their child in a supermarket? If you’re able to get over your fear of attack yourself, you’re probably going to yell at the animal abuser or parent for the mistreatment of the dog or child. Just because you didn’t see all the steps getting the chicken to the plate, it’s chronology leads to a horror that lends a more aware person to want to scream or politely tell-off someone for eating that poor creature. Because really, as I have discussed earlier, if you buy it, you condone this mistreatment of the animal.

You’ll soon realise, that despite your anger, they’ll roll their eyes at you and continue eating. Don’t worry. They just don’t get it yet. After all, eating animals has been a conditioned behaviour for most of us in first world countries and is an accepted norm. Beating a child isn’t.

Maybe we need to start treating defenceless animals the same way we treat defenceless toddlers – with love and respect, despite a little frustration at times.

All the best,

Nick.

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Thanks for sharing this. I wish more people would wake up to this. Going vegan is one of the best things I've ever done. Once your eyes are open you literally have no regrets, ever.

That's one of my wishes, too. It is very hard to sit back and bite your tongue while this sort of mass scale abuse is happening right now.

Thanks for dropping by, Choo.

Nick.

Thanks for the awesome post! I went vegan 2.5 years ago and it was the best decision I made in my life. 🌱💪

I have never seen Eartlings, I don't think I could handle it 😢

No worries! Glad you liked it! That means so much to me. Especially having put a great deal of time into it.

Do you know your exact veganniversary?? Sadly, I never kept track of mine.. it was around 2012 , though.

Earthlings is BRUTAL. Don't watch it. Leave it to the deniers. They are obligated to watch it.

Nick.

Earthlings is one of the saddest movies ever made.

Absolutely gut-wrenching. Movies are made to elicit a response.. my response to Earthlings was the most primal kind of devastation I've felt. Those poor animals.

Hi, good article. I eat meat but have some days in the week when I'm a vegetarian. I've thought about becoming a vegetarian quite a lot, but with veganism I do worry about getting enough protein. What are the best sources of protein that you have in your diet?

This is my favorite/least favorite question!

Our society has this ridiculous idea that we need to eat animal flesh for protein, when plant-based protein is easier to absorb and provides more than what we need in our daily diet!

Before worrying about how much protein you'd be missing, try looking at how much protein you're currently getting and seeing how much protein you actually need. If you're still worried about protein, here's a list of great sources of plant-based protein, along with some more information about protein needs :)

http://www.onegreenplanet.org/vegan-food/vegan-sources-of-protein/

.. but protein?
.. but lions!
.. but calcium.

Myths go on forever, right. I remember the days when I was saying "but protein". Glad I woke up to it!

Thanks for dropping a line.

Nick.

Thank you for this.
I am trying to develop more muscle definition and the gym instructors go on and on about protein...one even told me he puts a can of tuna into his smoothie for extra protein! I clicked on the link and some of those foods I already knew, some are surprising. Thanks again.

When I'm trying to build muscle, I usually just supplement with vegan protein powders - they have lots of tasty ones, plus they have way more nutrients than whey :) Good luck!!!

Haha.. I think "yoga" hit the nail on the head. Many of the plant based doctors I have heard say that the best way to identify that someone is getting enough protein is if they walked through the door.

You'll likely be getting enough protein if you aren't hungry and eating a normal amount of calories.

Good sources include nuts and seeds (I eat almonds, cashews and walnuts and flax seeds mainly), grains and legumes such as lentils and various beans and peas.

If you're REALLY interested in some terrific whole foods vegan recipes that will turn your mind upside down, check out nutritionfacts.org
And get a hold of Dr Greger's How to Not Die Cookbook.

Once you start looking into it more, you'll become more aware of what you're getting on a plant based diet that you're just not getting by consuming meat products.. eg. FIBRE! Lol.

Best part about veganism is probably the regularity!

Anyway, Dr Greger has a great set of resources! You should definitely check out his site.

Cheerio for now!
Nick

Thanks Nick. I think my issue is that most of the vegans and vegetarians I know eat really bland random things like boiled cabbage and gravy for dinner. I know for sure they don't get enough protein. But then I know there are vegan atheletes and body builders. The info you've given is good. I want my kids to know there is more to food than meat and two veg so we often have indian daals etc for dinner. I'll be adding some more of your suggestions now :)

That's really exciting! Its great the kids have such an open minded mum giving them other options.

Stick with Dr Greger's evidence based approach and you'll be set. None of the recipes of his that we've cookee have been bland.

Cheerio.
Nick

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Dude, your killing it. Great post, well thought out and considered. Part of my realisation was through animal welfare and canine cognition. Earthlings put me over the edge. I lost all faith in humanity that day. I got angry, VERY ANGRY. I just couldn't believe that everyone else was still doing the very same shit I was doing.

Now I am going down a different path, I am doing everything I can to expose the cruelty of all animal industries. The very fact that we as a species exploit every other species for our own gain, we don't even think about the rights that we trample over every single day. I love to show people how easy it is to actually give a Fuck in a world where not giving a Fuck is the norm. If that is through their stomachs so be it.

Going vegan is the best thing my family have ever done. Everything is better as a vegan. EVERYTHING.

Keep up the great work Nick. You have a new follower.

Yo, Moon!

Great words, my friend. Isn't it weird that somehow we just make that switch? But then again, I think we are totally geared towards compassion. It takes a lot of effort to train people to feel nothing when they harm another creature - this conditioning isn't actually even needed for the vast majority of people, because when they go to the supermarket, they see none of the blood, screams and cries. It is as though, because they didn't do it, that they're still good people. Good people just don't allow this to happen when their blinders are lifted.

I'm very envious of you. Hayley and I are the only vegans in our immediate family. And while I've been the dominant person (and often seen as the crazy one) no one has really tried to "shoot me down".

I agree - veganism is absolute compassion and makes life so much more beautiful.

Moon, for letting me know you're following me, this post gets an upvote! I'll try my best to maintain the quality you deserve and I want to thank you for taking the time out of your day to read my work - I sincerely appreciate it.

All the best,
Nick

For sure it really is a Light bulb moment. We are brought up not to hurt animals but to eat meat, it is an immediate contradiction in our moral compass and one that can take some time for us to see. My family is myself my Wife and my 3 kids, 17, 10 and 8. My folks have cut down quite a bit on their consumption and my sister only eats fish, she wont use any animal testing brands etc... My other brother will probably die with a cow steak or a pig sausage in his mouth. I'll never give up hope for him though, after all I was a BIG meat eater. Now, only monching on plants I am stronger, faster, I sleep better and generally have a much better outlook on life. Plus at nearly 40 years of age I have more energy than I had 10 years ago!

Don't sweat the crazy person tag, I have that in my larger family too! We are the only vegans in our friend group. Again, I am leading by example. I plan on being in the best shape of my life for my 40th and by doing this I can show everyone that not only is being Vegan the most compassionate lifestyle but the best way to be ripped as you age!

People just don't believe that you can feel this way only eating plants. It is hard to explain thoroughly to people but hey, they will get it when they get it.

Keep it up man.

Earthlings made me cry from beginning till end. Such a brutal documentary but we cannot ignore the hard reality right? Earthlings and What the Health helped my hubby and I become vegans. Great read and I got my mint, ginger and cardamon tea ready for the documentaries... never seen those two. Thanks for an amazing share!

This is such an important issue and I really appreciate this post. it gives me hope that people have the right mind set towards veganism beside for their own health. I went vegetarian and eventually vegan, I just recently made a post on this and plan to continue with more stories. Earthlings is defiently a must for everyone, I watched it 3 times myself (lots of crying).

Thanks for the inspiring and influential post, keep it up!

Thanks Maddy!

May I ask why you watched it so many times?? You're crazy! Great to hear from another vegan blogger!

Take care,
Nick

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You found a healthy way to be different than others 👍
Support! 😃

I guess, ideally it isn't really about being different necessarily. Long term, the more people eating more ethically and sustainably, the better this place will be.

I sure do feel healthier, that's for sure.

Thanks, Sun Flower!

Nick

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Nick, this is beautifully written! Have you watched this video? To me, the hardest part about being vegan is struggling to comprehend how everyone around me can be so blind to the truth. I struggle to respect those I love and I struggle to understand their point of view.

Thanks for such kind words. No I haven't seen this one. It's getting to the stage where so many great vegan speakers are putting out amazing videos that its hard to keep up. It used to be just to direct people to Gary Yourofsky's video.. now we have heaps-- just in Australia we have James Aspey and Joey Carbstrong.. both with very different stories.

Yes. Yes. The mental anguish can be nuts. At times you feel like pulling your hair out.. but that isn't going to help the animals. Keep connecting with people and being the best person you can be.

We have logic, truth, science and compassion on our side.

We will win for the animals.

Nick

I too am Vegan, and Male. What I have come to find is that all animal products are not fit for human consumption, especially since we have industrialised the production of animal products. They cause awful diseases. which range from Hypertension all the way up to Cancer.

The chemical processes involved in breaking down animal products result in deficiency of important chemicals such as magnesium - I cannot recall the others right now - Which are part of enzyme cascades that produce other chemicals which are vital for an optimum immune system and stable mental health.

While it is obvious that we are mistreating the ecosystems we rely on just to get food, expecting people to care about this is very ineffective and this is the source of much of our frustration. What we fail to realise is that the modern food industry have created products that are addictive, and meat is no less addictive.

What we are doing when we are vanguard of animal ethics is just as effective as a simple drug information session. What I have found to be much more effective is to treat lifestyle disease with a whole-food plant based diet.

This brings with it all the benefits that are associated with being Vegan, such as longevity and a clear and stable mind, with the added benefit of decreasing the strain on our ecosystems.

There is absolutely no rational reason to get angry from this approach, since it is just as beneficent to the human as it is to the animal.

Keep it up, mate. I cannot think of another way to live my life, since I have become vegan I no longer have ADD nor Mild Depression, I have much more energy, and there are spiritual effects that I cannot explain. Life is amazing right now, and it is all because someone took the time to teach me how to live in this peculiar part of the planet.

My choice of diet has also causes a shakeup in my friendships, and that is even though I am not as evangelical as a lot of people are about being vegan.

Hi Damo,

Thanks for your extensive comment. I really appreciate people that take the time to sit down and get such a detailed answer out.

It appears like we have a lot in common. I agree that so much disease is a result of animal product consumption.

Although I studied biomedical science and some nutrition during my uni days, I'm still developing my knowledge base. I wasnt aware of the cascading effect that you mentioned but I am aware of the effects of calcium leeching from excess proteins (animal protein) and the cancer promoting effects of insulin growth-like factors particularly found in dairy. Very scary.

Sometimes you just need to be that happy, healthy person for people to ask;

"You're looking great! What's the secret?"

That's the phase I'm going through right now. I still get silly comments at work, but I do not engage angrily anymore. It just doesn't work.

Thanks again for stopping by. I really appreciate your support!

All the best,
Nick.

It's so great to see more and more people go vegan! :) Great post!

Thanks for your support! how long have you been vegan?

Cheers,
Nick

You're welcome! About a year and a half now :)

Represent! Glad we are on the same team :)
Hope to hear more from you in the future-- dont be a stranger in the comments section. Ill have more out tonight!

Cheers,
Nick

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Thanks for stopping by!

yes veganism many of your thoughts are changing positively. and you are becoming more optimistic opinion for everyone.

Hi there,

When any movement begins (the roots of veganism go back a long time) it is often out of some kind of injustice paving the way for a new era. While it can be hard initially (especially after so many of us have been conditioned to believe quite a lot of lies from birth), ultimately a positive and optimistic approach will push the movement further ahead.

Thanks so much for leaving a comment - I really appreciate it!

Nick

Great Post!! I feel like everyone thinks it is less manly if you are vegan for some reason, like what? It just means(not limited too lol) you have compassion and care about what you put into your body!!

I know, right?!

How bizarre.. If someone eats a banana or mango, I don't see a million people going "What a Wuss!". And at the same time, even when I ate meat, eggs and dairy thought to myself while looking at a man or woman who was eating a ham sandwich, "sheesh.. they're one of the toughest people I know". It is just another absurd way of looking at people - judgement based on eating a plant.

Thanks for dropping by -- it's taking longer each day for me to reply to all these comments now (but please don't stop hahah!)

Cheerio,
Nick

thank you for promoting this lifestyle ^^

What a read! Thank you for sharing and spreading veganism! The reason why we have to tell everyone we're vegan is because eating animal products is a norm so if we simply didn't say it we wouldn't be eating anything while we're out! Just like if someone doesn't like coriander, or chilli, or gluten, they have to speak up about it otherwise there is a risk that it'll be in their plate. But of course because we make people question themselves and feel guilty it gets turned into a joke.

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One of the things that occurred to me recently is the reason people don't consider going vegan is the power of groupthink and reliance on peers for one's emotional state.

I think some people simply don't consider going vegan because they're just not independent enough, and whilst that is not the only reason for them it is a contributing one.

We need the independent, 'I care about what's right not what is socially approved' people to keep pioneering, who find their enjoyment not in the approval of others but in doing what they believe to be right.

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Thank you for sharing your journey and your "why"

I've been vegan for years, and it's really not as hard or whatever most people's guilty conscience wants you to think.

It's eating with a purpose, to nourish your body while doing no harm. How could that not be a good thing? <3

Hey Kort.

I know, right? There is so much hangup on protein and nutrients that people think only come from animals.. not to mention the whole idea of personal choice. That, to me, is a HUGE insult to the life of an animal. The notion of equality and letting someone else have the right to choose what they want to eat is utter hypocrisy. What about a basic right of the animal to live. I'd have thought their right to life superseded someone's right to choose to slit a pig's throat instead of eating a felafel burger. It's bs.

Thanks so much for dropping by. It means a lot.

Cheers,
Nick

I've been vegan for four years, and my partner for 20 years. We host vegan potlucks monthly. People eat great food, explore vegan options, and have a lot of fun.

The most successful social change programs often leverage information about others undertaking the same actions. Research shows that knowing that others are making and keeping commitments increases the likelihood that more people will make the same commitments.

That means that social chance must be.... Social!! Host a potluck!! Share the love!!

Ahhhhh interesting! Tell me more about this experience. Do you get many non-vegans turn up and how have they received it?

Cheers,
Nick

It's always a great time. We have a lot of friends that are vegan, and then a lot of friends that are vegan-friendly. When meat-eating friends show up, I guide them towards an easy dish to make, or just have them bring hummus. It's always a great time, and meat-eaters frequently leave feeling surprised that vegan food is so good. We just did one on Friday.

Hi, mate!
I, too, vegan and agree with what you wrote.
You make the world better!
RESTEEM!

You are too kind! Thanks for the lovely words and resteem.

How long have you been vegan? It's such a pure way of life!
Nick

I've been a vegetarian for 3 years, but since last December I decided to switch to raw food, this process is still going on, but it's already easier than at the beginning!
This serious step was prompted by Arnold's Ehret book "Mucusless Diet Healing Systems". He writes that we need only glucose, and the rest of the body produces itself and points to the things that most pollute the body ...
If you haven't read it yet, then I strongly advise you, bro!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Ehret

Thanks for the recommendation!

I'm hugely into Dr Greger at the moment. He and 19 full time researchers pore over the english language nutrition science articles to keep on top of the healthiest foods we should be eating.

His website (all info is free) is nutritionfacts.org and he is also on YouTube under the same name or just look up Dr Greger. He is a legend!

Nick

Thanks, I'll check it🙏🏻
may the force be with us)

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Change is coming as more people open their eyes

Five months later and this is so true! More and more people are waking up to realising the next level of compassionate living.

Plants, just like animals, are living entities.

If many people choose a vegetarian diet out of concern over animal rights or the environment... how about plants?

Study has shown that plants scream when their leafs are being ripped off their branches.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/botany/plants-feel-pain.htm

Do you think a plant has the same capacity to feel pain as a cow, pig, chicken or sheep? They don't have a nervous system.

Sit in front of your pet with a pair of scissors and a pot of parsley. Think.. what do you think is more morally wrong - cutting off a stem of parsley or cutting your pet's ear off?

I'm still in disbelief that we are we having this conversation. If this is your logic, what's stopping you from just cutting the heads off dogs and cats and people? Where do you draw your line or are you content that morals are a pointless endeavour and that we should live our lives by tooth and claw with little regard for sentient beings aware of their own existence?

I've been vegan for years and I'm no less frustrated when someone tries to tell me plants have feelings, too.

I very much respect you as a person, but this is the logic of a fool.

Nick

I was expecting someone's answer like yours.

I simply put the irony of this flawed thinking out in the open. Take it or leave it.

I appreciate your compassion for animals btw :)

After some consideration, I'm back. Can you tell me where I am flawed in my thinking?

If plants feel pain and you want to minimise their suffering, veganism is still the best option as meat production requires far more plants to be grown and harvested to feed the animals than if we had just eaten the plants ourselves.

Is it time to concede or do you need further clarification?

All the best,
Nick

Oh lord, the things male vegans have to put up with from the society. My hubby and I are both vegans and he never talks about it at work since he hears everything from people "joking" about him being gay or that I made him go vegan or that he's extrem etc. etc..
I've heard a lot of things too (including that I'm a f*cking hippie) but males definetly have a hard time being vegan in a brainwashed society.

We started watching Earthlings but 10 minutes in I cried so much so we stopped.
It's so important that we lift up the moral issue of eating animals as well as the health aspect.
I loved you post. Great work :)

Absolutely!! Earthlings should be compulsory viewing - until that emotion is felt. Maybe we should use it as a test for psychopaths ? No reaction? Locked up.

Thanks so much for writing such an extensive comment.

Please pass on a fist bump to your hubby. I was the one in our relationship to push veganism (But it didn't really take much convincing Hayley).

Vegan guys aren't necessarily gay nor crazy. Just logical and compassionate.

Thanks for the compliment.

Nick.

Totally agree :D Put in on the school scheduals and we will see a global vegan shift within a year :D.

I sure will do that, I'm sure he appriciates it. He was too the one who suggested veganism after finding a bootcamp schedual from Jon Venus.

You are so right, the future will be vegan so you just got a head start :)

Have a great new week

Hey Nicole.

It would be lovely to have a school shift.. but sometimes I have my doubts. You never do know, though! Occasionally people surprise you!

Have a great day!

Nick

Well you can always dream about it :) And try to work for a change :)

Have a great day you too :)

I'm vegan for 3 years now and I never watched Earthlings. But I love Cowspiracy, Blackfish and More than Honey !
I hope one day everyone will watch these films and become vegan. These days I'm really pessimistic about it. And I'm still angry ! :)

Oh still in the angry phase? It's ok --- maybe some meditation?

Yes they are top informative films. Very emotive, too. Well done on your three year veganniversary!

Take care and stay calm!
Nick.