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Not too many, depends on your niche to be honest. It is most effective to engage with less people but on a deeper level, than with many vaguely.

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Hey @lukorba, I agree that you can go deeper with less people. The question is how many if we want to put it into a number.

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Hey! I would say no more than 15-20, and that alone would take up a lot of time. I mean look at it this way, how many people, friends, can one have in their life before one starts to lose contact with them due to not enough free time, being busy, or simply other circumstances? Online, especially when we don't know the people in real life, these people require our effort to read and engage with their content very often, if not daily, and sadly, there simply isn't enough time in any of our lives to engage properly with more than 15-20 people on such a level. This is solely coming from my own experience on here and in life. However, I do think that we can have a bigger circle, consisting of a few close people, (the number I speak of) and then people whom we do engage with, but not on a level as deep as the others. And with this, a circle builds up, where in the middle are the minority, the 15-20, and then it just keeps growing: the size and number of people increases, as our engagement with them decreases.

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Good way to look at it! It makes a lot of sense. Thank you for this comment! :)

:)

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I think 50-100 is appropriate. ...i belong to a whatsapp group of about 120 active members and i know almost everyone and we interact very well

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Hey @amec, thx for the comment!

I think that number is possible as well. But Whatsapp is not quite the same as Steemit. I am not sure but I guess it is tought on STeemit since everyone is cluterred and you need to manually check up on everybody.

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Am well aware of this @flauwy,i just used whatsapp to explain my views...interaction on steemit depends on the relationship you have with the people you follow or follow u...an example...whenever i log in to steemit,i always check the blogs of about 20 guys i know or maybe cox am a fan of their content...i know their usernames off hand and basic information about them. Like @surpassinggoogle ...i went to google and other sites to know more about him! .why? ?
Because i love his personality. ...in short what am trying to say is if u know personally know ur followers...lets say they are friends and family,u can easily and effectively manage a good relationship with all of them on steemit.

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Dude im on the ssme page as you. But i feel youre barking on the wrong tree. Most of people herr are not to build relationships theyre posessed with money. For 3 months Im here I only found 2 good follower who really have the same thought. Others are basically just good job, well written kind of stuff. If youre lucky some wrote long reviews but then lost in contact. Everyone are so profit driven. Im also but i still want good relations. And its a precious gem to be found yet :(

I agree there are not so many followers which we have a real personal contact with. However, I find that the best chance to increase that chance is to have a smaller group of people which we follow and thus we have enough time to create a more interesting relationship than just "nice" "beautiful" .

Either way I understanf exactly What you are saying and I am on the same page as you. But I guess it's like they say - money talk. Sometimes unfortunately it talks the loudest ..

well let me see your blogs maybe i can be your next like minded friend ??

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hah you're welcome :)

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Yes... you are correct,we can make good one.

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You seem no to be the only one according to others comments. I do the same. Mayb this IS the best strategy. Steemit should give a favourite feature like we have on busy.org. That helps to check up your friends.

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Yes.....it's really difficult to manage and maintain all mates, we can keep a little touch with around 50 members per day.

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As a power user or as a regular user?

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i d't known about the different between power user and regular user, Give me the clear please.

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A power user works all day on Steemit, posts every day, has usually high payouts and generally does a lot of strategies to be successful.

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That's oddly specific for something I can at least do 50% of. And that sucks for me, because that sounds like the 50/50 power up and steem earnings mix, which I have NEVER DONE BEFORE - I always have my posts powered up, especially this early on in the game! But, alas, if high quality depends on channeled focus and attention, then no wonder these Steemians make so much on here, It DOES become their full time job eventually. As for me: videos, articles, coding, animation... no way, today! :(

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I live mostly from Steemit so every move I make here is to provide for my family now and in the long run. The fact that I am having fun while doing so comes on top of it. :)

I would say I am getting payed for what I would like to do anyway.

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Oh...Great,really i d't known before about it.Thank you @flauwy

great job @flauwy

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Hahaha...this is one really funny animation

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Haha, yeah I think so too. Only used it twice before but I tis already one of my favourite GIFs!

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Naturally, the more followers the better – at first glance. So of course most Steemers are going to try to attract more and more followers. One way they will do so it to Follow as many people as possible.

Which is all fine. But for me, I'm more concerned with creating quality content, and then if someone finds my posts interesting or informative, then they will follow me.

(I've been active on Steemit only for 2 weeks now, and that is clearly what is happening; the more decent posts I make, the more followers I attract. The numbers aren't huge, but that's fine with me.)

As many respondents have noted, too many followers might not be the ideal for everybody. I've been trying to keep track of my followers, but even after attracting a limited number of followers, I realize that it could get a bit stressful (for me, anyway) to keep up with them.

Of course, they can follow me without my interaction, but I believe it's best for Steemit if Steemers do what they can to create an interacting community. That's rather difficult to do if you have 10,000 followers. :-)

Anyway, thanks for the post, and the "How to survive" vid on YouTube. Both were quite helpful, especially since I'm only 2 weeks into the aforementioned "survival" stage.

Fortunately, I love creating the content that I'm making, and I spend over 8 hours / day doing so. And I have more and more ideas for posts, as well as series of posts.

Full Steem Ahead.

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What I usually have done after taking social media seriously for the first time ever in my life (alternative, not mainstream) is make a reality check if I really want to moderate how often I do certain things, with upvotes being a good enough example. On Steemit especially, IIRC upvoting for more than 27 posts and articles within one given day will eventually downgrade the empowering and/or funding effects of your clicking, so there's definitely a dynamic in play there. The problem, though, is that at least when I was audience engaging on Vidme and even Minds, Gab and BitChute, I almost never had to worry about not giving support to enough people because those that deserved it were easier to rationalize over time and dedication. Perhaps when I use Steemit at least a bit more often than I have lately, can I reap the results I desire for both the HARDwork and NETwork aspects of Steemian groups (yes, this clever ol' post is insisting for your upvote, @flauwy! I'm on a roll here!).

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Hey @majes.tytyty, thank you for your comment. I think it is very good that you still have that drive. I have lost mine rather quickly on Steemit as I realized that long quality posts which I was used to create prior to Steemit will not create the reward I am hoping for. It takes too much time and Steemit doesn't honor timeless content. When Steemit changes it system I will change my style again but up until then I go on mass.

I try to become friends with 50 Steemers who I really like and have things in common or who I can learn from, like you. I actually write them down in my so called "Steemit Book" so that I try to check their posts every day and comment on them. I always comment on posts I like or that inspired me.
I think the best time to comment is right away or within no more than 9 hrs because usually, people don't respond to your comments, but I still comment even on couple days old posts, just because I like them. It seems that when I comment on new posts and new to me Steemers I get to get more followers and upvotes. But I still try to get a closer relationship with the 50 ones I have by commenting, which doesn't really seem to be very effective for my upvotes, but I just want them to get to know me and because I like their posts, because they inspire me or I can learn from them, then that works for me.
I just try my best that I can, I really enjoy Steemit, I learn from it, I make friends and of course I want to make money, but if I just keep loving what I do and be consistent with it, working hard at it, I know one day it will pay off.
Love your posts especially when you make videos because this way it is more personal and it feels like we can know you better.
Thanks @flauwy. Sorry for this long comment.

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Hey @joalvaraz, Pura Vida from Costa Rica!

Thank you for this wonderful comment. I really think it is great that you manually check up on 50 people. It sounds like a really good strategy to me. I gotta do something similar myself but to be honest I find it a bit difficult and hard to motivate myself. I guess I have to change my attitude about this and see it as checking up on my friends. :)

Good to know you like my videos. Sometimes it feels like videos are underappreciated here.

Thank you for your awesome reply.
I personally would like to see more posts with videos, because like I said, you get to know that person way better than just reading the post. You can feel the emotions and what is in their hearts, and that speaks louder to me than just a write-up post.

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Well, you can certainly expect MANY more videos from me. :D

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Downsizing For Growth
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I agree, especially if you are just starting out, you need to strike a balance with quality and quantity to make solid relationships and put out good content on Steemit. The platform can be all consuming and tools to manage feed, bookmarks, favorites are not yet available. The real power players here seem to go all out all the time and don't show the balance, @papa-pepper for example. I believe they must be incredibly efficient multi-taskers. For instance @stackin responds to almost every comment, hundreds per day. He said that he accomplishes this by making replies during his morning workout when he is on the elliptical machine. Also, he has a lot of experience on social media and he has built a system. He is a great motivator and once everything is in place he can really take it to the next level with exponential growth. For small fries like me I believe the building blocks need to be put in place as a foundation for growth. Thanks for your great insights!

Had to jump in here because I totally agree with you @otage. I check @stackin and @papa-pepper daily because they do go all out every single time, and I respect them for that and at the same time, you can learn so much from them and they are amazing examples of how to be successful here on Steemit.

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Awesome thanks for backing me up!

No problem, I just glad you said it because that is how I feel about those guys.

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Amazing Comment!


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Yes, some people seem to be able to go all out. Steemit does that to someone with enough fire. It is similar with me, I am constantly working here. But I am not yet as efficiant as @stacking or @papa-pepper seem to be. Which is great because it means there is still plenty of room to grow!

I am brand new at this. I appreciate any help I can get.

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Check out my Steemy tutorials that I release every day. I have tons of cool stuff that is super useful for beginners!

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I ask myself every time how Steemians like sweetsssj handle this huge amount of followers? She has now over 13.000 followers and around 500 comments on each post.

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I don't know how she does it but I do know that I already earn as much as she. I like that thought. :D

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That sounds great :-)

But the steemit tries at all cost to do as breaktrought. Actually social media is how to socialize not only one man shows and the others are only recipients.

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I agree with you, however, Steemit is not necessarily Social Media if you don't want to. I see plenty of people who just create posts and never interact with their followers. I don't like that personally but it is a strategy and I respect that.

I dont know. Me honestly I only have a quite few friend in real life. There number dont exceed ten. But virtually a lot but do not know them personally.

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Same for me. I would say I don't have more than three friends. But I am German and my understanding of friends is very different to the US mainstream idea. Online it is totally different and I enjoy having plenty of people to talk to here.

Interesting approach, @flauwy, especially in a world that seems to think more is always better. Maybe it is not. As a newbie here on steemit, I have basically just looked around on my feeds for articles/photos that have caught my eye, following the person if I like what I see. I have also taken the approach, honestly, of following those that have followed me, thinking that perhaps they have done the same with me. I think though, there will come a point though that you reach a saturation level, probably eminent with an older, slower gal like me :) And that is ok. I am here to enjoy as well as produce what I hope will be quality stories, insights, photos or even recipes.
I think you are wise to consider this. I enjoyed watching/listening to your video and your insights. Thank you!

Oh and if you have not already done so, I would love to see you write an article on memory techniques sometime. I see that is one of your interests/specialties that you list.

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Hi @trishlarimer (related to @dan?), thank you for your comment! Following many people is problematic because it will clutter your home wall and it will become difficult to see all posts. At least that is the case for me and I "only" have like 250 people I am following.

You're welcome @flauwy! (Not related to @dan...is he a larimer?) And 250 people is a lot of folks to keep track of :)

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very good post friends.

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A philosophical vlog this one, only managed to get round to listening yesterday.

I need to do more research on the actual numbers, this should stand true for Steemit.

Social circle / voting circle - are they the same, can you artificially grow it with voting tools? Hmmm, interesting, good work man.

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That is a very interesting topic!

Let me begin by saying that I have been volunteering for quite a few years and have encountered a volunteer coordinator that has the ability to remember details for roughly 3,000 volunteers that she interacts with just once per year. This lady has incredible recall for names and the details associated with that name like what position they volunteered at and if she actually meets them can remember what they look like and attach the name to the face!

Someone like that would be able to handle a lot more followers than the average person.

Then there is the opposite side of the spectrum for people like me who have trouble remembering names of people I may see on a daily basis!

Although there are extremes on both sides, studies have indicated that for monkeys, their social group is limited to 50 and humans can handle 150. I found this when looking up the term, Monkeysphere. I encourage everyone to look at the research, because our current mentality is that densification is inevitable and that we MUST create more housing in ever-denser cities to make room for the growing population. Studies with rats show that over-crowding leads to deviant behaviours and eventual extinction. Is that what we want for the human species? Is this what we call progress?

Anyway, for me, I spend way too many hours on Steemit (at least 10 per day) and I can only handle maybe a couple dozen people at a time, so I'm glad that only a few of my followers engage on any given day.

As for the idea of profit: It isn't so much the number of people that you engage with, but rather the Steem Power they use when voting on your posts and comments! You can have a hundred plankton voting for you and receive just 10 cents, while 3 whales can fetch $50 for you!

The question is: Are you here for the money or for the social aspect? Where will you allot most of your time? If your friends are all generous whales, then you have got it made!

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Hi @happyme, awesome comment. Let me start disecting it:

You have opened Panadors Box with your memory remark. ;) Not sure if you knew that but I am a professional memory coach. When it comes to names memorizing I know exactly how it works and that EVERYBODY can become incredibly good at it.

However, I don't think that names are really relevant on Steemit. You see them and then you recognize them. It is not that you need to memorize any names here and there is no face for them either (maybe the avatar if you like). You can also bookmark them and so on. So memory plays a very marginally role in this, in my opinion.

In regards to overpopulation and cities: Well, after 33 years I left the big city and I never want to live in one again!

In terms of profit you can just aim for whales but I think that is a pretty one-sided strategy. I am here 100% for the money. Sorry to say that but it was my original intention. Now that shifts a bit but because I am already paying my bills with Steem. I rather have 100 followers with 0 in their Steem Power but who engage with me than just 5 followers with high upvotes who never engage. i do need the money but I also need the feedback or I lack motivation. Whales tend to not comment because they are usually bombarded with requests.

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Hi flauwy,
I didn't know that you are a memory coach. That leads me to ask the following question: Have you ever heard of prosopagnosia? It is a condition where people lack the ability to recognize faces. I used to believe that if someone had reasonable intelligence then they should be able to remember a face or a name or a number. Yet here I was, an honours student that could not memorize the names and dates of things I had to know for my history lessons. I just couldn't understand it! All my life I wondered why I had this difficulty. Then just a few years ago, I read an article in our local newspaper about a woman who couldn't recognize her own husband, children or even her own reflection. What she said resonated with me and I contacted the newspaper and had her contact me. Since then I have learned a lot about the brain and its many specific areas that do specific tasks. If there is some damage or deficiency to those areas, there isn't a whole lot one can do to make them functional again. At least not at this time from what the experts in those fields have found. You can train a mule to carry a load, but you can't train a dead mule to do it. If the mule is sick, you need to make the mule well first before asking it to carry your load. I made a post about prosopagnosia a long time ago.

As for the relevancy of remembering names on Steemit, I think one would need to remember certain things about a person in order to connect with them, otherwise everything is just superficial and there is no real bond made. Bonding is a critical aspect of socializing in my opinion.

You made a wise choice to leave the big city. Your health will thank you for that.

Thank-you for your honesty. I suspect the majority of people started out here for the money. Some stay for other reasons. It seems you have found one of those reasons. Personally, I find the mental stimulation I get from conversing with the people here on Steemit very rewarding in itself. There are many interesting topics (like the one you started in this post) that grab my attention. The monetary rewards are simply an added bonus! However, having said that, I must be honest and say that I love to share, so it has become kind of like a video game where I need to get to the next level, but in this case that next level is so that I can give bigger up-votes! All my earnings go into Steem Power so that I can give out more. I have no intentions to cash out. I have enough to pay my expenses and don't need the extra income. (Lucky me!)

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Yes, some elements are surely memorized if you start bonding with a person. But I never do that on purpose even though I could.

In regards to Propagnosia: I have heard about that in Oliver Sacks book The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat. Not sure if that was the same thing. I have never encountered a person suffering from that. So far everyone was able to apply memory trechniques and easily gets ten times better. You should at least give it a try before you dismiss it for potential medical reasons.

I also like all the nice side-effects of Steemit. But is is the money that makes me write most of my posts because it is all I have.

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You should at least give it a try before you dismiss it for potential medical reasons.

Are you willing to do the coaching for me here on Steemit? I have enough to pay my bills, but there is not much left over for extra expenses or even vacations, so I won't pay for treatment that I've managed to live without for all these years.

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No problemo, I will start the @memorsports community account soon enough. :)

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Sweet! I'll be looking forward to it. Thanks!

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This issue is quite important but hard to calculate the exact size of social group. I also agree that many number is not important. Close relationship would be much more important than the number of followers or something. Btw, If you are interested in life of exchange student in Denmark, then please visit my post :) I would like to post travel and some photos :)

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True, an exact number is probably impossible to define.

for some odd reasons i have 1200 followers !! but when it comes to upvote i mere get 10-17 upvotes , i have no idea why they followed me if they dont even open and see the posts i make, any idea what should i do about them !!

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Most followers are usually dead or ghost followers. Check that out here: http://www.steemspectacles.com/

Very good article. Now I have to overthink my workingflow;-) thanks
https://steemfollower.com/?r=3085

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@flauwy,
I have seen accounts on here and noticed that several of the users with huge followings, actually follow no one. So are those whales? I have been examining the users that I follow. I have about 135 followers already and its only been a month. thanks again for the awesome info!
@Lymmerik

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It is a good idea to keep the people you follow not too high. For the same reasons we covered in this post.

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If you have 100- 200true followers it might be enough honestly
You can't handle the content of thousands
Good article

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True, above that it gets really complicated. But even with less it is not easy.

It gets harder and harder to get around to everyone the longer you're here.
Takes a lot of time and effort, but it's worth it to see so many great writers developing their blogs. Steemit is amazing and you get what you give. πŸ˜‰

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Good point, I struggle a lot with that. I manage my social circle with removing and adding people to my follow list daily. I try to keep in touch with 20-40 people on steemit. Don't know why but you are on top of my list of people I want to keep in touch with. Maybe it is because your videos are so useful and inviting. Keep up the good work!
btw swetssssj is sponsored by a whale, that's the only reason she gets such huge payouts.

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Hey @runicar, thank you for enjoying my content so much. I really try to only create stuff that is either useful or entertaining.

@sweetsssj has build herself a nice audience who enjoys her stylish posts. She is very engaging in Steemit. It is easy to dismiss her for being a cute girl who just has a sponsor. But her posts are top notch styled with amazing photos (she obviously has a photogrpaher byofriend or something like that) and she has earned herself the trust of much of the community. From a certain point things start to scale automatically and you draw attention to people who just come to hope for curation rewards or upvoted comments.

So all I am saying is that I respect her as a power user a lot!

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I really appreciate the amount of quality info you provide and the way you present it.

I get where you are coming from about her and I'm not trying to dissaprove the amount of work that goes in her post.But what I'm trying to say is that the only reasons she gets the huge payouts is that 700k delegate and the fact she can afford to travel so much and at that πŸ’΅ level. Also for pictures like her's you just need a good camera and couple of expensive lenses. You don't need to be a proffesional photographer but need to know how to use the camera and that is a skill I can admire. But as you said she probably has her boyfriend doing it so.... Also I have seen much better work from steemits users that claim to be amateur photographers and look at their payouts.

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True. All I am saying is that she put plenty of work into her blog and therefor achieved her current status. Everyone can do that playing it smart. But that's the problem. Most people never come that far because Steemit is complicated to grind.

I belive that 50 are enough for a deeper connection, otehrwise it will be too much and will be more vague

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50 is cetainly not easy to manage. I wonder if more is managable.

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I agree with u brother 😁 keep the circle ⭕️ tight 😁πŸ’ͺ

Good luck on talen challenge πŸ˜πŸ‘

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