VIVA ICO Live Auction : Round 1 Batch 2 : Bid Here!steemCreated with Sketch.

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Batch 1 closed at $6,500.00!
Congratulations @cryptomancer!

As you can see here we powered up 100% of the auction proceeds!


We are paying you $1 for each of your Steem!
Official ICO Live Auction Thread for VIVA Right Here on Steemit



VIVA is the price stable crypto currency with reliable income features.
It was introduced to the world by @williambanks over the course of several postings.

Part 1 : Introduction to a Price Stable Crypto Currency With Basic Income
Part 2 : VIVA Components Explained
Part 3 : VIVA Components Explained - Part 2
Part 4 : Bootstrapping the VIVA Economy

In order to guarantee an income for all participants, the VIVA economy is structured around the interplay of several economic layers.
Three of these layers are crypto currencies that serve specific purposes within the ecosystem.
The fourth layer is a fiat gateway with debit Mastercard issuing capabilities.

This auction is the first of it's kind in the world. It's going extremely well!

Auction Details:

There will only ever be 42,000 VIVA Crowns.
The first 4,000 are to be distributed over the course of 4 rounds.
After ICO there will only be One Crown found per week!


Each batch or round corresponds with a milestone we've reached.
Creating the exchange and fiat gateway was our first milestone and began the launch of the live auction for VIVA Crowns, our fundamental base layer.

Today we finished our ICO website www.vivaco.in
Drop by and check it out!


These auctions serve two purposes.


  1. They allow us to perform adequate price discovery, because when we speak to institutional investors they do want to see that.
  2. They give everyone a chance acquire some while the price is low.
  3. We use the powered up steem to provide upvotes to our developers as a perk to help attract and retain top talent.

We believe that everybody should have the opportunity to benefit from the explosive growth we're about to undergo.
Running the auction here is our way of saying thank you to the steem community for everything you've done for us.

As it turns out though, requiring bidding on the entire batch of 100 Crowns, locked many people out from the get go, even with the bonus we paid for steem.


Rules:

  1. The auction is still priced in USD.
  2. You can settle in any currency supported by @blocktrades.
  3. There are only 90 VIVA Crowns available in this batch.
  4. You have up to 7 days to settle.
  5. Whether steem or SBD, we give you a $1 credit for each unit you use at settlement.
  6. Your bid is per unit of currency.
  7. You can specify the number of units you want at settlement.
  8. For your bid to be accepted it must be at least $1 higher than your previous high bid.
  9. The auction closes at post payout

@onceuponatime put in a bid of $6600 for the previous lot of 100
This was higher than the high bid at close but they delayed too long to put their bid in.

So we're opening this batch up at $66

When you bid, you just say something like...

I bid $67.00

You do not NEED to specify how many units you want, but you CAN if you choose to.
The highest per unit bidder at close will get first say on how many they want, then the second highest bidder, then the third etc until this batch is completely sold. Winners will be announced in the third batch.

Keep in mind that this is a carry over auction. The ceiling of the previous batch becomes the floor of the next.


Just seeing VIVA for the first time? Check out these resources for more information.


Our website www.vivaco.in
Blogs about VIVA...
Part 1 : Introduction to a Price Stable Crypto Currency With Basic Income
Part 2 : VIVA Components Explained
Part 3 : VIVA Components Explained - Part 2
Part 4 : Bootstrapping the VIVA Economy

Original auction thread



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Thank you everyone for participating in the round 1, batch 2 Viva crown auction! At this time the bidding has closed and all have been registered.

@williambanks will be in touch to settle from here and let you decide how many units you wish to purchase at your bid price. Until all 90 crowns from this batch are sold, he will go down the bid list in order. There will be a couple more batches to be auctioned, so make sure to follow @vivacoin to catch these.

Below is the final bid list upon auction close:

svamiva $500
kenny-crane $172
phoenixmaid $171
deanliu $170
neptun $165
tombstone $164
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
carlidos $156
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
nextgen622 $77
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
pfunk $68
thecryptofiend $67

Aweomse! Looking forward to Batch 3 and also too see how many Crowns are being taken. I tagged all the bidders so they see this list for sure. :)
@svamiva $500
@kenny-crane $172
@phoenixmaid $171
@deanliu $170
@neptun $165
@tombstone $164
@greatdabu $160
@matrioshka $159
@carlidos $156
@moondancer762 $105
@ethansteem $101
@steemboost $100
@nextgen622 $77
@sykochica $76
@reneenouveau $75
@carolyn-brodie $72
@wingz $71
@tyler-fletcher $70
@pfunk $68
@thecryptofiend $67

Ah, good call there! I should have done that at the end of the auction. I didn't want to during since that seemed it would've been annoying. But I'll make sure to do this on following auctions. Thx @alechahn!

I was asked to start going down the list to see how many crowns each bidder wanted to purchase. I'll be trying to catch people in steemit.chat to do this (im also sykochica in there.)

@svamiva, @kenny-crane, @carolyn-brodie and @ethansteem what are your names in steemit.chat? or if you could send me a DM of how many crowns you were looking to purchase at your bid prices :)

I chose to get 8 Crowns and have just sent 1376 steem to @vivacoin. I don't know what others will do after me. They have every right to purchase as many as they want, but I hope everyone who wants one or more Crowns gets a chance to get them, now or in the future. Best wishes to all! :-)

Hey everyone! I've asked @sykochica and @phoenixmaid to handle auction acknowledgements while I work.

I bid $150

Thank you for your bid @phoenixmaid
You bid of $150 makes you the second highest bidder. Congratulations!

Can I still participate?

sorry @liondani the auction for this batch has ended, there will be another soon, follow @vivacoin and @williambanks for updates.

I'm just seeing this now. Batch 3 will be coming here very soon.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

I'm glad you've adjusted the rules, because my aim is just to plant a seed, not to rule the world )
I bid $500

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Thank you for your bid @svamiva
Your bid of $500 makes you the current top bidder.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Q1. does this bid mean the starting price for batch 3 is at least $500? if so, wow!
Q2. what if the bidder cannot keep this promise afterwards? (this is a question in general, not referring to svamiva in particular!)
Q3. the number of units - does it need to be integral?
Thanks!

Q1. does this bid mean the starting price for batch 3 is at least $500? if so, wow!

Yes that's exactly what that means.

Q2. what if the bidder cannot keep this promise afterwards? (this is a question in general, not referring to svamiva in particular!)

Then I'm going to be sad and my feelings will be hurt. There isn't a mechanism here to force settlement. We just assume honorable intent.

Q3. the number of units - does it need to be integral?

At settlement you can specify number of units. VIVA Crowns are all integrals because they are a specific right within the system. So the number needs to be an integer, that integer can be as low as 1. No reason you can't get a group together and subdivide an interest, but that's a personal business dealing.

Excellent questions and thanks for bidding!

So now a single VIVA Crown costs $500? That's big jump from $66 which prices so many out. Wow!

Well what it means is that particular bidder is willing to pay $500 per unit, this gives him first dibs.
But the number of units is left unspecified.

Remember this auction isn't all or nothing. It's intentionally blind this way.
At close we will settle with each of the highest bidders until the batch is gone, so just bid what you can afford.

OK, so if this bidder wants only one VIVA Crown, he pays $500, but if he wants 10, he pays $5000. If he does not purchase all 90, the next bidder may pay only $100 per VIVA Crown, if they are the next highest bidder. Additionally, if some are remaining, the next bidder may still pay only $66. (Of course, this is assuming these are the only bidders - for simplicity). I understand. I really like he way this is being offered.

Yes and I'm about to update the rules here to specify that you can do fill in bids, so long as your bid is at least $1 higher than your previous bid. The point of this is to find the correct price the market will support.

Well, yes, my idea was just to specify later that I only want 1 unit at that price and see, what happens )

Thanks, we were all curious when the price jumped like that!

I like the price blinding and fill in method. It takes away any advantage to waiting to bid. It eliminates bid sniping and lets everyone just say what they feel is the best price for them.

Price jumps like that are also nice because it shows people that this coin does in fact have far more value than they may be considering at the moment and so to look at this as a long term investment and not speculation.

Thank you for bidding, you are still the top bidder at $500!

I'll bid $69

I'm happy with just one, or maybe a few.

Yeah this works best if the quantity is blinded until settlement.
Keep in mind this is the last one where we take steem at a rate of $1 each.

Also you do have right of first sale in future batches and rounds.
So there is a real economic benefit from buying in this batch and selling in say Friday's batch which will be getting some press because we'll be talking about it on @officialfuzzy and then Saturday when we talking about it on @sykochica and company's NPR on Crack.

Also we're getting some outside steem media next week, but I'm supposed to be quiet about that right now.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Thank you for bidding @nextgen622
With your bid of $69 you are presently the second fourth highest bidder!

So, for now from 90 units you sold one for 500 and a few for 67-69 ( they might want to buy all, but there's no guarantee)
What happens if you don't get enough buyers for all 90 units ?

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

So, for now from 90 units you sold one for 500 and a few for 67-69 ( they might want to buy all, but there's no guarantee)

That is exactly correct! It will be at least 1 and could be all 89 remaining (assuming no one outbids you).

What happens if you don't get enough buyers for all 90 units ?

Then round 1 is over with and we move to round 2 which is a sealed bid at 2x the highest bid from round 1. Currently that floor price would be $1,000.

I should also note that round 1 buyers have right of first sale in future rounds. Meaning if anyone buys now and wants to sell in a future round, theirs will sell before ours.

The point is to ensure that these find their proper price, so we take active steps to prevent the price from falling.

I bid $68

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Thank you for your bid @pfunk!
You are presently the second fifth highest bidder at $68!

At approximately what time do you expect this auction to end? I understand at next payout, but when is that payout due (approximately)?

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I bid $155.
Guys, I just want one really. To be safe, at most I will just buy 3 units. If I have the chance.

Thank for your bidding @deanliu !
Your bid of $155 makes you the second highest bidder at this time.

Just an FYI, there is no need to disclose the number of units you intend to purchase.
The mystery of not knowing, adds to the excitement for everyone, including us!

With @svamiva there was just a question about whether he thought he was bidding per unit or for the lot because his bid was nearly x10 the next highest bid and he came out so strong so early.
He has made it known he knows he is bidding per unit.

On the other hand, a good strategy for every bidder might be to CLAIM they are only buying one or two in order to keep others from being more competitive in their bids. Then the high bidder could just acquire the whole batch without feeling the pressure of increased bidding pressure, because people are lulled into a false sense of security.

That's why we asked to keep the quantities blind until settlement.

I bid $75.

Thank you for your bid @renenouveau !
Your bid of $75 makes you the third highest bid at this time!

I bid $76.

Since these bids aren't necessarily for the full batch, giving more importance to all bids versus just the top bid, I figured it would be easier to keep track in an ongoing list rather than having to edit bid placement through all the prior bids.

svamiva $500
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68
moondancer762 $67

moondancer762 bid $67 to

ah, ty. Sry, still caffeinating this morning. Editing moondancer762 in now :)

no worries i can keep watch a few hours longer if you want to cafinate etc

tyty! I'll still try to keep an eye out, but definitely need to spend time with the bf today :)

Bid $156

@carlidos is the second highest bidder!

Thanks for bidding @carlidos you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
matrioshka $85
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68
moondancer762 $67

I bid $72.

Thanks for bidding @carolyn-brodie you're currently the 12th highest bidder
svamiva $500
matrioshka $159
tombstone $158
kenny-crane $157
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

On second thought, if at least one VIVA Crown is left over at the end of this round, I'll take it, I BID $67.00

Smart move! :) Good luck!!

I bid $85

Thanks for bidding @matrioshka you're currently the 5th highest bidder
svamiva $500
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
matrioshka $85
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68
moondancer762 $67

What about the bid from @carlidos ?

ah I must have missed it because of the flags. thanks for the heads up @svamiva I'll edit the list now

I bid $71

Thanks for bidding @wingz you're currently the 8th highest bidder
svamiva $500
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
matrioshka $85
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68
moondancer762 $67

I bid $101

Thanks for bidding @ethansteem you're currently the 5th highest bidder
svamiva $500
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
ethansteem $101
matrioshka $85
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68
moondancer762 $67

I bid $157.

Thanks for bidding @kenny-crane you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
kenny-crane $157
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
ethansteem $101
matrioshka $85
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68
moondancer762 $67

Nice! So now people can buy individual crowns? That's awesome! The next will not use Steem anymore, or is this in doubt?

Yes people can bid a price per crown now, and then decide how many they would like at settlement. This allows people who can't afford a batch, to buy in while the price is still this low.

It's not that the next batch will or won't use steem. We're going to keep accepting steem for settlement. But the price won't be $1 per steem during round 3. This is the last round where that discount is in effect.

Thanks for clarification. That's a very good idea to do allow per crown sale at this point!

I adjust my bid to $105

Thanks for bidding @moondancer762 you're currently the 7th highest bidder
svamiva $500
tombstone $158
kenny-crane $157
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
matrioshka $85
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

I adjust my bid to $159

Thanks for bidding @matrioshka you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
matrioshka $159
tombstone $158
kenny-crane $157
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

I'll bid $70

I believe the minimum bid is $66, from the first batch auction. Want me to put to in at that min level?

I'll change myself top level comment but that should have been 70 not 50!

Thanks for bidding @tyler-fletcher you're currently the 6th highest bidder
svamiva $500
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68
moondancer762 $67

I bid $100.

Thanks for bidding @steemboost you're currently the 10th highest bidder
svamiva $500
matrioshka $159
tombstone $158
kenny-crane $157
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

I bid $160

Thanks for bidding @greatdabu you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
tombstone $158
kenny-crane $157
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
phoenixmaid $150
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

I'd like to increase my bid to $161

Thanks for bidding @phoenixmaid you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
phoenixmaid $161
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
tombstone $158
kenny-crane $157
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

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I increase my bid to $162.

Thanks for bidding @kenny-crane you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
kenny-crane $162
phoenixmaid $161
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
tombstone $158
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

i increase my bid to $163 @kenny-crane I'm only after 2

Thanks for that info, best wishes to you! :-)

best wishes to you to kenny

Thanks for bidding @phoenixmaid you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
phoenixmaid $163
kenny-crane $162
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
tombstone $158
carlidos $156
deanliu $155
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

I bid $170

Thanks for bidding @deanliu you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
deanliu $170
phoenixmaid $163
kenny-crane $162
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
tombstone $158
carlidos $156
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

I raise my bid to $164.

Thanks for bidding @tombstone you're currently the 3rd highest bidder
svamiva $500
deanliu $170
tombstone $164
phoenixmaid $163
kenny-crane $162
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
carlidos $156
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

I bid $ 162

I'm getting the last bids in right now @neptun. We do need to have the bids be separated by at least $1. If you like I can set yours to $161 or $165 for this. This would just run into issues with 2 people at the same bid price. But I can take either of these for you.

Just let me know

thanks - please then give me $ 165

Thanks for bidding @neptun you're currently the 5th highest bidder
svamiva $500
kenny-crane $172
phoenixmaid $171
deanliu $170
neptun $165
tombstone $164
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
carlidos $156
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
nextgen622 $77
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
pfunk $68
thecryptofiend $67

You can contact me in steemit.chat with "andreas" - thats me.

Ah, perfect. TY! I tried looking for you there before putting the previous reply here on the bid. But I'll definitely let williambanks know that's you over in the chatroom. :)

I bid $172

Thanks for bidding @kenny-crane you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
svamiva $500
kenny-crane $172
deanliu $170
tombstone $164
phoenixmaid $163
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
carlidos $156
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

bid $171

Thanks for bidding @phoenixmaid you're currently the 3rd highest bidder
svamiva $500
kenny-crane $172
phoenixmaid $171
deanliu $170
tombstone $164
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
carlidos $156
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68

Is it still 1 Steem=1 dollar and can I still bid? If so I would like to bid $67 each for five.

Thanks for bidding @thecryptofiend you're currently the 19th highest bidder
svamiva $500
kenny-crane $172
phoenixmaid $171
deanliu $170
tombstone $164
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
carlidos $156
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
nextgen622 $69
pfunk $68
thecryptofiend $67

it is for this round, but sorry the auction ended a few minutes ago. it was so close with this bid I'm not even sure it will count.

No problem:) Could you add me to the next round then please?

I don't think I can add you @sykochica and i are just babysitting the auction so @williambanks can work and sleep. I will resteem when it goes live though.

OK:)

77

Thanks for bidding @nextgen622 you're currently the 12th highest bidder
svamiva $500
kenny-crane $172
phoenixmaid $171
deanliu $170
tombstone $164
greatdabu $160
matrioshka $159
carlidos $156
moondancer762 $105
ethansteem $101
steemboost $100
nextgen622 $77
sykochica $76
reneenouveau $75
carolyn-brodie $72
wingz $71
tyler-fletcher $70
pfunk $68
thecryptofiend $67

When will we know who purchases what and how many are left for those of us down the line? I'm hoping no one will purchase them all and there will be enough for even the last person to purchase a few.

I can't give a specific time myself, having to leave that to @williambanks, since I was just helping with this part. But I expect he'll go down the bid list to find how many units each person is wanting. Not wanting to put words in his mouth, but I'd be surprised if this didn't occur within the next 24 hours or so. He was pretty on top of it for the last auction round, but that one was for the full batch, so this might take him a little bit to work down the full list.

I'm with you though...I definitely hope there are a couple left when it gets down to me. Lol

Thanks. I appreciate @williambanks, @phoenixmaid and your assistance during this bid process.

Absolutely! Happy to have been able to help out! :D

happy to have helped and good luck moondancer

I would love to be part of this, but I am new to Steemit and have not yet built up enough steem, SBD and steem power combined to purchase one VIVA unit even if the price were to stay at 66.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but even if I cannot purchase the VIVA currency now, I can still be a part of it - something along the lines of Steemit - in the future? (though it will me more difficult to obtain)
Could one purchase only one unit at this time?
Much of what I read is full of the technical aspects, of which I do not fully understand, I may have missed it. When the whitepaper (whitenovel) comes out, I plan to study it closely. I am new to the whole cryptocurrency arena, but I see so very much potential in both Steemit and VIVA.

Could one purchase only one unit at this time?

Yes you can, and remember that VIVA and VIVA Crowns are different things.
The supply of VIVA is tightly controlled. It is Crown Holders who have that control. In order to mint VIVA you will need at least one Crown.

These are designed to not ever get any cheaper.

And right now we're crediting you $1 for each steem you use at settlement.
That means if you bid $67 USD we are willing to let you pay that off just by sending 67 steem.

VIVA and VIVA Crowns are different. Got it.
If one had only one VIVA crown, would one be required to mint VIVA, and would this require a high-power computer setup? From what I read, it likely does - but just looking for clarification.

A Crown confers what is called a Treasury Right. We don't have mining and mining pools. We do things really, really differently.

The Treasury Right is used by the mint as their authority to find a block and have it accepted by the network.

What specifically a mint decides to put in that block is up to them.

So with a Crown there are two ways you can use it. You can either use it to start a mint yourself, or you can lease it to an existing mint.

It is important to note that VIVA coin is used as the payment and settlement mechanism. Mints create money and this is paid to their workers, this means a mint must be engaged in some sort of business activity.

Thus what you're really speculating on when you buy crowns at this stage, is the value of that Treasury Right to a business. Or you buy it if you want to start a business that runs on top of this.

That's the reason we hammered out the fiat gateway issues first. It allows people to buy and sell VIVA for cash.

Consider something like Amazon AWS, but running on infrastructure they are leasing from individuals.

No, you don't need a high powered computer. Also, you can transfer your right to a minter, who mints for you. It's not are requirement, but highly disired. :) Hope that helps.

So much simpler way of putting things.

@moondancer762 you can buy steem, don't forget that. ;)

Also you have 7 days to settle if you win.

Thank you, and vivacoin so very much for your help. I think this is not the part of VIVA in which I'm prepared to participate. Thank you for your patience with those of us new to the scene, but who are also excited in projects such as Steemit and VIVA, and don't want to miss out on a great thing. I will be following this project and look forward to watching it grow.

Yep you're very welcome!

Hello. I bid $158. Thanks.

Thanks for bidding @tombstone you're currently the 2nd highest bidder
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