Steem health account @hive-168205 and from my Intel's who wishes to remain secret, the problem is from the head (admin)
First of all she delays the reward of the engagement winners, for example can you believe she's just rewarding last week winners 17 hours ago with the promised reward?
Secondly I had been denied the opportunity to emerge top 3 before but I ignored it, unfortunately it happened again i was still denied the opportunity of emerging top 3 this week after making most comment on others entry, scoring higher than all their selected winners and having higher votes and comments on entry when compared to their selected winners.
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This have been happening for a long period of time to me and other steemians, I believe you know so well I used to love creating content on as much engagement challenges as possible but recently I stopped and focused my energy on crypto academy engagement challenges. This is because I have been a victim of this so many times, at least I could cope with steem crypto academy. Sometimes I would think about others who couldn't cope in crypto academy due to limited crypto knowledge, won't this cause them to leave steemit thinking everyone is also compromised?
This is not the only community, but from now onwards I would bring you evidence and report from other communities after digging deep.
If you want a complaint to have more weight than "My mate told me this geezer's dodgy", then I recommend undertaking some addition research to support the accusation.
For example;
Identify all of the winners of their Engagement challenges and other contests. Are any users awarded more prizes than others?
Categorise these users. Country of origin, who introduced them and when they joined are often good indicators. You could also check the chain of introductions to see if they're friends of friends. Have they won other challenges? Do they only enter contests or is there something that makes the profile more personal?
Identify when this community was first selected for engagement challenges. It's common for the less honest to have accounts originate around the time that they receive some element of responsibility.
In my opinion, this is the minimum.
At first glance, the 3 prize winners identified for a steemcurator vote look fine.
Then you see that the 2nd place was introduced by the contest organiser who selected the winners.
If this happens consistently, it's more than simply coincidence. It's also common practise for their friends to win 2nd and 3rd, rather than 1st. It's more subtle that way.
Then, you'll notice that the first booming nomination was also introduced by the contest organiser.
Like I suggested, it's more subtle to award secondary prizes.
So a steemcurator vote and a booming vote go to the organiser's mates.
This light touch investigation gives some actual evidence to support your accusation. Without it, your complaint reads like: "I didn't win a contest that had 163 entries, they must be cheating. My mate said they're cheating."
Lol I appreciate your nice indepth research, sincerely you made points, the truth is that I didn't see this coming and I gave 01 report that I could generate in short periods of time.
i acknowledge my mistakes in not getting their engagement data fully. Next time I will make sure I come up with more fact to back up my accusations.
It's not too late to do it now. I only had a quick look at their most recent challenge and whilst 2 out of 5 winners were people they introduced (which doesn't look good), it doesn't indicate a consistent level of "abuse of power".
If they've done this with their previous engagement challenges, then it will be clear that they can't respect the privileges that they've been gifted with.
The last two days, I was called upon to assist this community.
After listening to them and looking deeper into the allegations, I can gladly report that, in my eyes as an outsider, this team did nothing wrong except for late payments of rewards, which, although they have explained it, is not right. I don't think they will do it again. (•ิ‿•ิ)
As far as the nomination of winners, they did what was expected of them; "We will leave it to each community to decide how they select their weekly winners."
If the accuser doesn't want the 5SP he was rewarded with, I will take it.
The winners selection is mainly based on the whole team; every week the contest organizer gives a winner, every moderator gives a suggestion, and we work with freedom as a team. We hosted two seasons before and five weeks of this season with no objection or allegation. We always welcome you to guide us where we make mistakes.
Sorry for the late reply. Nowadays we are celebrating our religious festival Eid, and it was the same reason for the delay in reward distribution.
Hello sir, we are a team and every decision to select the winners is discussed with the group. Before publishing the results, as my colleague rightly says, the winner does not necessarily have to be the one who commented the most, we evaluate the quality content, content that meets the requirements requested for due participation!
One moderator per week held a contest where they had the responsibility of sending and suggesting a publication that met the requested guidelines!
Supporting the comment of my friend @dexsyluz that an author can make many comments, but the content of his work is not good, so there may be another who made few comments but has good content in his publication!
There's a blame on healthy-steem community that winners are selected on the base of favouritism and even rewards are transferred to winners of engagement challenge season 16 last weeks specifically in advance.
@steemcurator01 most respectfully I want to make it clear that obviously before posting actual report,it is always decided by team that who should be the winner and it is always asked by admins from moderators that which user is deserving to be selected as a winner as my friend @dexsyluz is saying that most of time contest organizer gives maximum suggestions to choose winner but other moderators are also always free to give their opinion so now it should be clear that choosing winners is not a decision of only admin or any single person.
Winners are always choosed by admins and moderators collective discussion...
Only being top most in engagement with users is not key to success.
Depending upon words quality, grammatical quality, original ideas of a user in expressing his content and original pictures all these are preferable things in choosing a winner so we all team members keep in mind all these criterias.
By keeping in mind all these points,It is clear that claim of unfairness by that user is baseless and all team members are witnessed of it that we are working in a coordinated way.
The organizer may use other detection sites in calculating your involvement in providing positive comments to others.
One post will count for 2 points, while a Comment will count for 1 point if it exceeds 120 letters. Comments that are too short will not count as points. Try visiting https://s7ventech.com/steem/ and see if your comment counts as points.
Greetings friend, personally for me, there is a flaw to this tool, why do I say so?
There are times this tool refreshes early, wiping out the last seven days' account very earlier than expected.
This doesn't separate unique comments from spamming comments, it just counts all of them as individual comments as long as it's above 120 letters or so. To this effect, something happened in the last week of season 16 engagement on the @hindwhale community, where a certain user was just copying and pasting the same comments over and over again for different users, even as this user was reported to the head, the user still qualified for make a noise and was given booming vote. I wouldn't want to spoil someone's reputation so I will not mention names.
Hence, the https://s7ventech.com/steem/ tool for me is not accurate. I prefer the use of the Steempro tool, which will filter out unique comments from repeating comment.
Thank you very much for sharing your opinion about the Make Noise tool, we will take it into account so that we can continue to improve.
First of all, yes, sometimes we have some early restarts because we do the work of reporting manually and if we don't do it this way maybe things would be delayed more than necessary since we will not be available in the next few hours. Despite this, all the statistics are saved in the weekly report published in the hashtag #makenoise.
We are aware of the situation of constant abuse, we are constantly looking for technical alternatives to try to stop them. However, we would like to remind you that there is a blacklist that can be managed manually, so if you believe that someone abuse can always report it, rest assured that we will act severely to ensure a fair situation for all users of the platform.
Community ratings are extremely important to continue growing, if there is anything else that can let us know, never hesitate to do it this way or by private chat. I apologize in advance for the inconvenience caused.
Greetings friend, please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the tool isn't effective as I have highlighted only the part that can bring improvements and not to downplay the usefulness of your tool. It is a great tool, so I hope no offence.
As for the offer, if and when I can, I would rather come to you privately to let you know if and when I've enough proof for an offender.
I downloaded the Steempro report for @hive-168205 and pointed out that their winners of last week is on the report but @ starrchris's name doesn't even appear on the report.
The above image explains what I mean, the first user is doing exactly the same thing that got him the booming as I said earlier....
The first user did the same thing by commenting 143 times, to which 125 is unique meaning 18 is copied and pasted.
The user I am referring to, user number 2 circled out who has made over 134 comments on other users' posts, but then only 99 are unique, meaning a whooping 35 comments were just being copied and shared among 34 other users.
This particular user keeps doing this, week in, week out and not just in one community but almost all communities doing engagement that he has dropped his entry.
At the end of the day, the https://s7ventech.com/steem/ tool will not see the spamming but count all of them as unique comments and this user will earn booming for coming among the top engaged. @miftahulrizky
Thank you @sahmie for your presentation, everything is very clear and easy to understand.
For sure these two tools steempro and s7ventech are used by many communities in seeing the involvement of contest participants. It is unfortunate if those who are considered involved turn out to be cheating in order to get recognition of involvement and get prize votes.
It picks up all the comments in the community, not just those related to a SEC contest. We had a user who had over 60 unique counts but not a SEC post.
Like I have said, I discovered that one user was not on the list that I've downloaded from Steempro yet, on the s7ventech tool, his comments show.
We seriously need a tool that we can trust.
At this stage we have to use both.
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Steem health account @hive-168205 and from my Intel's who wishes to remain secret, the problem is from the head (admin)
First of all she delays the reward of the engagement winners, for example can you believe she's just rewarding last week winners 17 hours ago with the promised reward?
Secondly I had been denied the opportunity to emerge top 3 before but I ignored it, unfortunately it happened again i was still denied the opportunity of emerging top 3 this week after making most comment on others entry, scoring higher than all their selected winners and having higher votes and comments on entry when compared to their selected winners.
.
This have been happening for a long period of time to me and other steemians, I believe you know so well I used to love creating content on as much engagement challenges as possible but recently I stopped and focused my energy on crypto academy engagement challenges. This is because I have been a victim of this so many times, at least I could cope with steem crypto academy. Sometimes I would think about others who couldn't cope in crypto academy due to limited crypto knowledge, won't this cause them to leave steemit thinking everyone is also compromised?
This is not the only community, but from now onwards I would bring you evidence and report from other communities after digging deep.
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If you want a complaint to have more weight than "My mate told me this geezer's dodgy", then I recommend undertaking some addition research to support the accusation.
For example;
In my opinion, this is the minimum.
At first glance, the 3 prize winners identified for a steemcurator vote look fine.
Then you see that the 2nd place was introduced by the contest organiser who selected the winners.
If this happens consistently, it's more than simply coincidence. It's also common practise for their friends to win 2nd and 3rd, rather than 1st. It's more subtle that way.
Then, you'll notice that the first booming nomination was also introduced by the contest organiser.
Like I suggested, it's more subtle to award secondary prizes.
So a steemcurator vote and a booming vote go to the organiser's mates.
This light touch investigation gives some actual evidence to support your accusation. Without it, your complaint reads like: "I didn't win a contest that had 163 entries, they must be cheating. My mate said they're cheating."
Even if they probably are cheating.
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Lol I appreciate your nice indepth research, sincerely you made points, the truth is that I didn't see this coming and I gave 01 report that I could generate in short periods of time.
i acknowledge my mistakes in not getting their engagement data fully. Next time I will make sure I come up with more fact to back up my accusations.
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It's not too late to do it now. I only had a quick look at their most recent challenge and whilst 2 out of 5 winners were people they introduced (which doesn't look good), it doesn't indicate a consistent level of "abuse of power".
If they've done this with their previous engagement challenges, then it will be clear that they can't respect the privileges that they've been gifted with.
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@aaliarubab @suboohi
What is your response to this accusation from @starrchris ?
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The last two days, I was called upon to assist this community.
After listening to them and looking deeper into the allegations, I can gladly report that, in my eyes as an outsider, this team did nothing wrong except for late payments of rewards, which, although they have explained it, is not right. I don't think they will do it again. (•ิ‿•ิ)
As far as the nomination of winners, they did what was expected of them; "We will leave it to each community to decide how they select their weekly winners."
If the accuser doesn't want the 5SP he was rewarded with, I will take it.
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Your comment hurts me most and it's because I know so well how you benefitted from the rightly done engagement challenge.
I saw you comment so hard that you you were winning every community, you know the true rule and method it's been done.
my question for you is did you engage on as many post to increase your chances?
Or
You were winning because you knew people?
If yes please don't let them overlook the method
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I am sorry if my comment hurt you as it was not directed at you.
https://steemit.com/hive-168072/@patjewell/can-i-win-a-steemit-engagement-challenge
This is how I win contest on Steemit.
I will even make double sure that I have the tags in the order it is listed in the contest.
As for that 5SP, are you willing to give it up? Half maybe? (•ิ‿•ิ)
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😂 it's too small to fit in a soon to be orca wallet.
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At this stage any bit counts (•ิ‿•ิ)
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Hi @steemcurator01
The winners selection is mainly based on the whole team; every week the contest organizer gives a winner, every moderator gives a suggestion, and we work with freedom as a team. We hosted two seasons before and five weeks of this season with no objection or allegation. We always welcome you to guide us where we make mistakes.
Sorry for the late reply. Nowadays we are celebrating our religious festival Eid, and it was the same reason for the delay in reward distribution.
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Hello sir, we are a team and every decision to select the winners is discussed with the group. Before publishing the results, as my colleague rightly says, the winner does not necessarily have to be the one who commented the most, we evaluate the quality content, content that meets the requirements requested for due participation!
One moderator per week held a contest where they had the responsibility of sending and suggesting a publication that met the requested guidelines!
As always, creativity and quality are sought!
Atte
Edgar!
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@dexsyluz I agree with your statements!!
There's a blame on healthy-steem community that winners are selected on the base of favouritism and even rewards are transferred to winners of engagement challenge season 16 last weeks specifically in advance.
@steemcurator01 most respectfully I want to make it clear that obviously before posting actual report,it is always decided by team that who should be the winner and it is always asked by admins from moderators that which user is deserving to be selected as a winner as my friend @dexsyluz is saying that most of time contest organizer gives maximum suggestions to choose winner but other moderators are also always free to give their opinion so now it should be clear that choosing winners is not a decision of only admin or any single person.
Winners are always choosed by admins and moderators collective discussion...
Only being top most in engagement with users is not key to success.
Depending upon words quality, grammatical quality, original ideas of a user in expressing his content and original pictures all these are preferable things in choosing a winner so we all team members keep in mind all these criterias.
By keeping in mind all these points,It is clear that claim of unfairness by that user is baseless and all team members are witnessed of it that we are working in a coordinated way.
Thanks for your time ....
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“We are proud, fair, and committed as a team. We believe that each one has a voice and will therefor respond accordingly.”
Thank you so much my dear respected sir.
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As a team we have joined hands together in picking winners with top engagement along with quality post
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I dropped a report on my findings because the data looked so much for a comment.
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The organizer may use other detection sites in calculating your involvement in providing positive comments to others.
One post will count for 2 points, while a Comment will count for 1 point if it exceeds 120 letters. Comments that are too short will not count as points. Try visiting https://s7ventech.com/steem/ and see if your comment counts as points.
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Greetings friend, personally for me, there is a flaw to this tool, why do I say so?
Hence, the https://s7ventech.com/steem/ tool for me is not accurate. I prefer the use of the Steempro tool, which will filter out unique comments from repeating comment.
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Hello,
Thank you very much for sharing your opinion about the Make Noise tool, we will take it into account so that we can continue to improve.
First of all, yes, sometimes we have some early restarts because we do the work of reporting manually and if we don't do it this way maybe things would be delayed more than necessary since we will not be available in the next few hours. Despite this, all the statistics are saved in the weekly report published in the hashtag #makenoise.
We are aware of the situation of constant abuse, we are constantly looking for technical alternatives to try to stop them. However, we would like to remind you that there is a blacklist that can be managed manually, so if you believe that someone abuse can always report it, rest assured that we will act severely to ensure a fair situation for all users of the platform.
Community ratings are extremely important to continue growing, if there is anything else that can let us know, never hesitate to do it this way or by private chat. I apologize in advance for the inconvenience caused.
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Greetings friend, please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the tool isn't effective as I have highlighted only the part that can bring improvements and not to downplay the usefulness of your tool. It is a great tool, so I hope no offence.
As for the offer, if and when I can, I would rather come to you privately to let you know if and when I've enough proof for an offender.
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Very interesting what you are saying here.
I downloaded the Steempro report for @hive-168205 and pointed out that their winners of last week is on the report but @ starrchris's name doesn't even appear on the report.
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The above image explains what I mean, the first user is doing exactly the same thing that got him the booming as I said earlier....
The first user did the same thing by commenting 143 times, to which 125 is unique meaning 18 is copied and pasted.
The user I am referring to, user number 2 circled out who has made over 134 comments on other users' posts, but then only 99 are unique, meaning a whooping 35 comments were just being copied and shared among 34 other users.
This particular user keeps doing this, week in, week out and not just in one community but almost all communities doing engagement that he has dropped his entry.
At the end of the day, the https://s7ventech.com/steem/ tool will not see the spamming but count all of them as unique comments and this user will earn booming for coming among the top engaged. @miftahulrizky
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Thank you @sahmie for your presentation, everything is very clear and easy to understand.
For sure these two tools steempro and s7ventech are used by many communities in seeing the involvement of contest participants. It is unfortunate if those who are considered involved turn out to be cheating in order to get recognition of involvement and get prize votes.
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Yip! That is also why I like Steempro more, BUT
We seriously need a tool that we can trust.
At this stage we have to use both.
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