RE: Voluntaryist: So you say in your communist nation people can still be voluntaryist?

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Voluntaryist: So you say in your communist nation people can still be voluntaryist?

in voluntarism •  7 years ago 

You can choose to use Kickstarter or go away. You can choose to use your state government or go away. You are not living in a country that forces you to use Kickstarter or to not leave the country (like the GDR I was born in).

The decision is yours. One may be harder then the other (for same leaving facebook is harder then leaving the country they are in), but in both cases you are still free to decide on your own free will.

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You can choose to use Kickstarter or go away. You can choose to use your state government or go away.

That is a bullshit false comparison and you know it.

I don't have to go away from anything to use Kickstarter. Indeed I can even opt into different things on it.

Not using kickstarter may have no impact on my life.

I cannot CHOOSE to go away from my government. I cannot realistically uproot my life, ignore any property I have and say OH WELL it is a loss and move some where.

Kickstarter can't force ANYTHING upon me. The government can.

So a very disingenuous and unrealistic comparison.

I don't have to go away from anything to use Kickstarter.

I never meant that. I said you can use Kickstarter or go away - from Kickstarter.

I cannot realistically uproot my life, ignore any property I have and say OH WELL it is a loss and move some where.

You cannot realistically promote voluntarism :P

And for some this uprooting is very easy. Or they have to do it anyway. To say YOU can't do and imply that is true for everyone else - isn't that a bit snobby ;)

And for some this uprooting is very easy. Or they have to do it anyway. To say YOU can't do and imply that is true for everyone else - isn't that a bit snobby ;)

Okay I'll rephrase. Going away from Kickstarter FORCES nothing from me. I just don't opt into any of their crowd funding.

Going away from my state means there are things that belong to me that I must leave behind. This also presumes there is anywhere else to go that is still not a state. Thus, it is an unrealistic and silly comparison.

It makes zero sense. They are completely different things. If you can't see that then I really have no idea how to explain it as I don't know what is blocking you from seeing it. Without knowing that I am not really certain how to explain it.