Weed Should Be Legal — but Not Because "It's Medicine" [Steemit Exclusive]

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deirdyweirdy (61) · 7 years ago

We have been so successfully indoctrinated as to believe it not only reasonable but desirable to hand control of our lives to some group of random strangers who call themselves government. Of course we get a list of thieves, liars and reprobates to choose from, but not a choice of none of the above.

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robertandrew (67) · 7 years ago

Yep, I agree @careywedler. Ain't a pot smoker myself. Never did much to me back in the day when I was doing it. But it's much less harmful overall than Alcohol is, imo

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bibleanarchist (47) · 7 years ago

Hear here, ms. Wedler. So many focus on the medical side & for normies that is a gateway argument to help them along to the realization of the importance of freedom. If we're not free to make bad decisions (I'm not saying that using cannabis is a bad decision) then we're not free at all. Give me liberty or you'll get death. End the war on drugs...better said the war on freedom.

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cpnjacksparrow (49) · 7 years ago

Would you post your video for this too! It's very powerful as well! Glad to see you active on here too, Carey!

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sco (64) · 7 years ago

For once I can fully agree with you. The stupid war on drugs has cost enough, both money and lives, and achieves nothing.

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alkhalis (38) · 7 years ago

Good post
@careywedler

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careywedler (65) · 7 years ago

Thank you! :)

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xntryk1 (63) · 7 years ago

Love the picture! :-)

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careywedler (65) · 7 years ago

Hehe thank you, it's from a video I did last 4/20... it's on dtube! :)

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xntryk1 (63) · 7 years ago

Oh yeah, I think I remember that one. Ha-ha! :-)

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ddrfr33k (63) · 7 years ago

I am in agreement with you, but for different reasons. Colorado has had a surplus budget after allowing recreational cannabis, and they've been able to reinvest in their infrastructure and economy. It's spurred jobs, increased taxes, and it's a good fiscal idea. For all this talk about budget deficit, we could very easily find ourselves with a very, very nice source of income. Funds could go to drug treatment and rehabilitation centers, schools, roads, and plenty of other social services.

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k9disc (49) · 7 years ago

Upvoted on headline alone. I agree.

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valued-customer (67) · 7 years ago

As you point out, there's all kinds of good reasons for cannabis to be legal. Last I heard, the earliest evidence we have of agriculture is a pouch of hemp seed 12 thousand years old. It's kind of synonymous with human culture.

But you settle on the best reason: we are free. No one has a right to tell us what to think, be, or do, and telling us we can't ingest cannabis is all three.

Thanks!

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sastrohm (39) · 7 years ago

Yep.

"we should be able to freely make all decisions for ourselves as long as we are peaceful"

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ideafarm (44) · 7 years ago

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kennyskitchen (72) · 7 years ago

It's not all about you.

My experience is all about me, as yours is all about you, and hers is all about her. Each of our experience is centered exclusively in ourself, in our body, in our mind.

You live in a town or city, with hundreds if not millions of people. Who are you to say that the people collectively do not have a right to impose whatever order they see fit to impose?

Because no group has any rights more or different from those of any given individual in that group. Otherwise, any time two (or more) men decided to rape a woman, they would have that right because there are more of them.

Looked at another way, the whole idea of "inalienable rights" is a fiction.

So anyone can do anything the want to you, with your body?

The order in human society comes from men. It comes from the testosterone driven competition between man and man and between man and Nature, to seize territory and to impose dominion and order upon that territory so that the people who live upon that territory can live with peace and security and prosperity. That is the nature of the world. That is where order comes from.

You are referring to people killing each other, raping, pillaging, and destroying the land as order, peace and security... Order comes from nature, from the evolution of any given system towards equilibrium.

But if you pierce the veil and see how things really are, and how they really came to be the way that they are, you find that the order that makes your life possible was given to you by men who died on battlefields and by kings who seized land and imposed order.

Actually, most of the order in the world exists in spite of those men killing on command and the "kings" commanding it. Genocide is anathema to order, war is anathema to order, punishing others for actions that harmed nobody is anathema to order.

You think like a child. People generally who live in urban society today think like children. This is not a criticism of you; you were born and raised into this situation. But now you must do something to leave your childish thinking behind and to grow up into good strong men and good strong women.

By identifying as a slave with no agency in your own life, except that allowed by the masters who "maintain order" for you?

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ideafarm (44) · 7 years ago (edited)

The flag on this post illustrates why steemit will fail. A single turd whale can censor any post that he/she/it wants to. The flag cannot be justified as due to spam. It is clearly censorship of either the idea that I express or the way that I express it.

The flag also proves the point by demonstrating WHY people in urban environments think like children. The turd whale flagged my post to keep the idea from reaching you! Wake up, people! You live in a world where Truth cannot get to you because it is stopped by intolerant censors.

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careywedler (65) · 7 years ago

What tangible right do YOU or any majority have to impose on someone who hasn't hurt you? It sounds like you're relying on some variation of the social contract, which none of us ever actually consented to.

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ideafarm (44) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thanks for engaging me. My position is that "rights" are illusion. Order is imposed by force. "Rights" are merely words used to express the imposed order. We like to say that the order in our societies is imposed by "the majority". But that is also an illusion, though one that contains some truth. Whoever imposes the order in your life will do so by threat of lethal force. You are utterly powerless to resist. Only by gaining control of that entity ("the majority", "the deep state" or whatever) will you be able to determine the order that is imposed upon you. And if you succeed in doing so, you will accomplish it by using the threat of lethal force.

That is the way of the world. "Rights" do not come into it. This is why I say (perhaps too much) that you people of urban society think like children. You have no clue as to your true situation. Nor do you have a clue as to where the order in human society, and also in Nature, comes from.

Perhaps, if you allow me to, I will be your clue, and you will thereby become good, strong men and women, leaving behind your childish illusions to seize your world and determine its order for yourselves.

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eskmcdonnell (45) · 7 years ago (edited)

It's rare to come across a person who properly understands rights. I like to joke, how humane our rights are, since the most conscientious government of Netherlands recognized a gorilla as innately having 'human rights'! - how really, truly humane is that?

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ideafarm (44) · 7 years ago

Interesting point. What I said can also be applied to speaking about animal rights. I'll resist comedy here regarding gorillas voting, owning property, etc.; I presume that such rights involve conditions of imprisonment and such.

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valued-customer (67) · 7 years ago

You state that rights don't exist, but that's fallacious.

A gazelle has the right to life, as do lions. People, on the other hand, have those same rights, and the need to defend them, but are also bound to a higher standard: to respect the rights of others.

To fail to do so is a moral failure in every society that has ever been, and continues to be so now. Therefore, lawful societies are bound to recognize that individual persons have rights that must be respected, or criminal depredation--we are not animals that can prey on one another--results.

Just societies are bound to enforce the rights commonly enjoyed by their people, and the degree to which a society is just can be measured by the degree to which the rights of man are enforced.

To claim otherwise is to claim we are nothing but animals, and the sheep need fear the wolves without hope of lawful remedy.

I am a man, not a sheep nor a wolf. I am bound to respect your rights, and you are mine. Are you a man or an animal? You answer not with words, but with your life. As you live, you either live as a man, or an animal.

Rights exist because we are people, and inure to people by sole virtue of their existence. To maintain otherwise is to impugn the very essence of society, and reckon us chattel.

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ideafarm (44) · 7 years ago (edited)

Your post exemplifies social media at its best. We are both correct. It is our nature as humans to construct societies characterized by liberty and justice, and it is our nature as humans to speak of "human rights" and "animal rights". But how do such words become realized in the societies that we construct? With the threat of lethal force.

IOW, notions of rights, of justice, of liberty, are just that: notions and words and visions of possibilities. To make such visions real, order must be imposed, and that is done by the men, with lethal force.

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valued-customer (67) · 7 years ago

There are other ways to create order than lethal force.

Indeed, almost all order is created by other means.

That lethal force exists does not obviate rights. Crime exists. There is no doubt of that. Crime is the violation of the rights of another.

Rights are the very basis of human society, and if we have no rights, crime doesn't exist.

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