RE: Regarding Unvotes

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Regarding Unvotes

in witness-category •  6 years ago 

Can you provide a link to the post you're referencing? Our last posts don't have many comments at all on them, aside from this one, and the last post we made involved exposing a breach of contract. Is it a comment in another thread maybe?

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I thought it was fairly obvious but incase it isn't: https://steemit.com/steemit/@rhondak/soyouwannabedivisivebringit-8njg6hobo6

To be fair, when mentioning "your last post" it's helpful to specify which "you" was being referenced.

As for this being grandstanding of some kind or stoking the fire, a very clear, logical inference can be drawn between a user stating that they are being pressured to change their vote by someone else and another user stating very clearly that they would be withdrawing support for others based on a personal grudge.

If that is, in fact, not the case, then we welcome any evidence to the contrary regarding who is in fact doing this.

Seeing as numerous people are telling you they unvoted because they have seen first hand the bad judgement and drama from members of your team you might want to re-evaluate your assumptions that anyone is doing this to you.

It's not based on any assumption. As was mentioned in the post, it may not be all of the people who unvoted, but it is clearly the case that this is happening for some of them, as was discovered from conversations had by our team members with these voters. How is that not worthy of being public knowledge? Moreover, that there are explicit reports of this reasonably casts doubt on anyone else claiming otherwise for others.

It is clear that someone is pressuring people to change their witness votes against their own judgment. Based on what we've provided, it's no enormous leap of logic to make the inference that this was Aggroed. If there is another party doing this, then we're welcome to figuring it out. Right now, based on the information available, we made a logically supported conclusion.

I can't speak for anyone else's choices but it's kind of incredible that you refuse to acknowledge that people are watching these posts and all these interactions and they might be unvoting based on their own decisions.

You are welcome to investigate by speaking to each person, had you dmed me and asked I would have told you. I think it's unprofessional of a witness team to make a list of people who unvoted and assume their reasoning. If you want to be clear and transparent in your post you can perhaps add my reasons next to my name in the post.

Reason for unvote: does not want to support a witness that continues stoking drama

edit* or just remove my name from the list

We're also getting some pretty significant support and upvotes from "these posts," Julia. Everybody isn't a fan of collusion. The fact that a witness team comprised of four little nobodies, one of them a guy "everyone" is apparently supposed to hate, is holding a solid 66 ranking despite the torpedoes launched from PAL should really say something. Please don't overlook what it means in the scheme of things.

I don't care wether this garners you support or not, as I have already said I can only speak for myself. You put my name on a list in your post, that was making assumptions about my intentions and I asking for it to be removed, or for you to be as transparent as you say you are and edit the post to include my reason.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

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Over the last 22 days, the following accounts have removed their witness votes from noblewitness: [...]
Users are, of course, entitled to vote for whatever witness they want for whatever reason they want, and the same goes for unvoting a witness. However, having spoken to a few of the names on that list, it is abundantly clear that at least some of these votes were removed due to social pressure for political reasons. This raises the question of why the rest of them were removed.

Your name was included in a list of people who performed a certain transaction on the blockchain, which is quite public. It was not included in a list of people who performed that transaction for a certain reason. Therefore no editing is needed. If the transparency of the blockchain makes you uncomfortable, then perhaps this isn't the best venue for you.

We are well within our rights to question the reason these votes were removed. We are also well within our rights to point out that the vast majority of people removing the votes are PAL affiliates. People can infer from that what they will.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

You still don't get it... you guys are the cause! You Rhonda and your willingness to condone and stand by Cork. Your inability to determine right from wrong. Your inability to converse normally and hear other people. You mock a sexual assualt victim while saying you get why they don't come out of hiding. Your behavior is repulsive. Cork's behavior is repulsive. That being divisive post is filled with toxicity. Muxxy holds his nose and says it stinks but it's necessary... it's not. And Andrei is running a tone deaf whisper campaign.

You are toxic. Your whole group is toxic. Your actions are toxic. You are blind to it despite a whole chain explaining it. This is why I think you're currently psychotic and need help. It's also why you're being abandoned. Seek help. Get out of your victim mentality. Change your behavior. Add value to the chain, and maybe then your actions will generate support.

The paranoia isn't necessary. The cause of your failure is decidedly you and your actions.

"Mock a sexual assault victim?" I was mocking you, hero. Not her.

Oh, and we're not being abandoned. That's not what we're saying. We just want to make sure your behavior does not go unnoticed while you run around expending all this energy to discredit Cork. I mean...why are you so threatened by him, anyway? If all he does is troll you, just ignore him. "De-escalate." Or is that term only applicable to people when you're trying to coerce them into silence so they won't expose you?

We haven't pressured anyone into changing their witness votes. Clearly, someone has done that with regards to us. If it isn't you, I'm sure you'd want to find out who is colluding to pressure voters into changing their vote.

There's no paranoia here. We've made a logical conclusion based on the information we've made publicly available above. Gaslighting us by calling us toxic and avoiding the issue being raised isn't doing you any favors. If there was someone pressuring voters to change their vote, surely that's worthy of investigation. Why are you opposed to taking action on that?

I just want to disengage from this discussion because I feel like I'm talking to someone in a psych ward and I'm not a qualified participant for that. On the off chance there's some reason left in you then here's the thing.

I believe you live in a concocted fantasy world. There's no worthy investigation. There's no pressure. There's nothing out there forcing a major change. It's just people seeing the actions of you and your team and thinking "you suck." One of these days I'll get around to really applying public pressure because your team is a such a toxic den of shit, but to date I can assure you it hasn't happened.

For literally the last year I've ignored you. In the past 4 months I haven't thought about any of you at all. You're not on my radar and you're not people or things that I bother to spend time on. You live in a fantasy world where I'm a villian concocting schemes and am an ever present threat. I'm not. I'm practicing my brother's advice when I was an annoying kid "ignore him and he'll go away."

I'm engaging you now on the knowingly foolish and low probability chance that somehow you actually can get a rational thought through your head.

I'm not gas lighting that you're toxic. You're toxic. Look at the the So you want to be divisive post. You condone and encourage Cork while playing the victim card and say literal shit like "this thing is bad, except when I do it, then it's justified..." He says "when it's coming from us it's pure spring water, when it's coming from them it's piss." He's calling people "fat fucking slugs" and you're jovial like "oh, that's just Cork being Cork..." You think folksy somehow justifies it or deflects you condoning it.

Honestly, what I think happened is that you took advantage of Cork seeing a broken man willing to do technical work and exchange witness votes for attention and an audience. A price you were willing to pay and can't back away from as you need the help. You justified it as helping a broken man, but really you meant to take advantage of a talented person willing to work for free monetarily, but for a rather large price paid in negative attention. I personally think where you may have thought to help lift him up you have in fact been brought down to whatever weird view of reality that he claims as his own. You now strike me as being in Cork's world, and that's largely where I think your current insanity stems from.

I'm discontinuing this conversation. I don't find it productive, and I I don't think you're a open to the idea that you need help more than you need to find a boogey man externally responsible for your self created woes. Again your team is mastering minding your fall. Not me.

In all seriousness- SEEK HELP!!!

There's no pressure. There's nothing out there forcing a major change.

Unless you're speaking for everyone who unvoted, you're not qualified to make that statement. Given that this contradicts information we've received from people on that list, I'm willing to take their explanation for their actions over your assertion.

One of these days I'll get around to really applying public pressure because your team is a such a toxic den of shit

So are you saying that you would use your influence to pressure people into changing their witness vote? Doesn't this, in fact, demonstrate exactly the rational assertion we've made in this post?

THAT is screenshot GOLD. I hope you got that, @anarcho-andrei.

So NOW I am the poison apple, and Cork is the poor victim. Oh, how I love this! I think I've made you quite nervous, Aggroed, with the fact that I'm capable of reaching a much bigger audience than you originally gave me credit for. You thought I was a "yes" girl, but you very much underestimated me.

Nobody on this witness team is "after" you. Cork has his share of anger, but we don't sit around in witness chats with each other plotting ways to destroy dear Aggy. All of this stemmed from an offensive YOU launched. This is our response. Want to keep making threats? Go ahead. You're now officially on blockchain record as being the bully and a tyrant that you are:

One of these days I'll get around to really applying public pressure because your team is a such a toxic den of shit, but to date I can assure you it hasn't happened.

You can believe we're going to get some mileage out of THAT little gem.

That kind of attitude might play well in your little drone army, but in the real world, I think it will come back to bite you.

I can't wait to tell Cork that you now claim I used him. He's going to bust a gut over that one.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Yes. That post was quite a shit show. Or the comments, rather.