To Fork or Not to Fork?

drakos (70) in witness-update • 6 years ago (edited)

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gtg (70) · 6 years ago

It's the same v20 that we are familiar with just with some fixes that we are really happy to have before HF will be triggered.

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intelliguy (68) · 6 years ago

I think it's a little soon to fork. Would like to see more testing done on HF20 code first.

Let's throw more "bad and tainted" data at it on testnet... one more time. If we had done that... this last outage would not have happened.

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eonwarped (68) · 6 years ago

Actually this isn't accurate. Unless testnet has a mixture of v20 and v19 nodes (replicating production state), this problem would not have been caught. Remember the bug was that one of the HF20 consensus rules became active by accident before the scheduled date.

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timcliff (73) · 6 years ago (edited)

The testnet is actually getting a copy of the transactions that are getting submitted to the mainnet automatically transmitted.

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intelliguy (68) · 6 years ago

That's only good when it shows us that "normal everyday data" seems to work.

I was hoping we deliberately send "bad and tainted" data to the nodes, and eonwarped makes a good point.. Having a mixture of v20 and v19 nodes on testnet is best, especially to duplicate the transition period.

On a testnet, you really do need to go wild, and test every possible scenario when possible.

It's impossible to do that... but if you can get "close to impossible", you'll get "close to seeing if the code is nearly perfect" too. :)

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mikepm74 (66) · 6 years ago

Thank you for this detailed update Drakos. We have to trust in our witnesses to make the best decisions regarding what happens with the underlying code.

I don't know if this is publicly available information or not, but I would be interested to know which of our top 20 witnesses (if any) were NOT a part of the effort to get things back up and running September 17th. We all know some witnesses are more attentive than others, I believe those who are not part of keeping things up and running should be held accountable in the witness voting.

Thank you for having alarms set and making your witness nodes a priority. It does not go unnoticed and is appreciated!!!

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drakos (70) · 6 years ago (edited)

It's a very valid question. As much as I would love to give individual credit to those who put efforts on that day, I think it's best that they write about their experience themselves and let their supporters be the judge. The timezone, work schedule, family matters or other engagements, they all affect the availability of each witness, which doesn't make them any lesser than others. Also, an event such as that, however critical it was, should not be the only metric in evaluating the overall community/technical input of a witness. The bottom line, each witness contributes in their own ways whenever humanly possible.

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therealwolf (75) · 6 years ago

Thanks for being an awesome pirate witness!

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vlemon (76) · 6 years ago

Thank you for the update ! Take care @drakos

Posted using Partiko iOS

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justyy (82) · 6 years ago

Thanks for the hardwork. Being a witness is not easy and you are surely deserve to be top 20.

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alyssas (60) · 6 years ago

I'd vote for a delay. Best to get things right than make a mess.

Is there a list of what each witness favours? Perhaps we can influence a delay by changing our witness votes.

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drakos (70) · 6 years ago

Looks like it's going to happen, unless a critical bug happens or is discovered within the next 24h.
https://steemian.info/witnesses

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geekpowered (69) · 6 years ago

There are certain features I really want from HF20...and other ones I'm not too keen on...but, even if it has seemed like forever waiting for it, perhaps some extra time should be taken to evaluate it...if it's needed.

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journeyoflife (67) · 6 years ago

FORK, but closer to the day of

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thedamus (72) · 6 years ago

Thanks for info @drakos, resteemed

😎👍👍

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cryptopie (81) · 6 years ago

I am hoping all will run smoothly @drakos and it is really a good news for the steem community to have steem developed into a batter blockchain through the course of years.

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eaglespirit (66) · 6 years ago

thank you for the update drakos and sharing your experience, its so important for us to see how hard you all work and what's going on behind the scenes. so many planks and minns have no idea what you all do so much appreciation to you for all your hard work!
i hope you get to rest and get some playtime. peace, eagle spirit

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steemraiser (65) · 6 years ago

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shucona (54) · 6 years ago

That's a great update of steem community and I appreciate your post and I think that steem recover recently and thanks for sharing this information ..

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mcfarhat (70) · 6 years ago

Awesome work man !! Thanks for the updates

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afril (69) · 6 years ago

Many people are waiting for my HF20 to also wait because this is the first HF for me.

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yakubenko (68) · 6 years ago

wait September 25 to give a full evaluation

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vikisecrets (68) · 6 years ago

Cool countdown, hoping everything goes smoothly on Sept 25th 👍

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sweettais (70) · 6 years ago

thank you for the update and this informative post!
(Would be great if you take a look of my latest drawings:)

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yanes94 (71) · 6 years ago

What will happen on September 25? I think it is a day to make a very important decision and in which everything should agree that it is to look for the best for Steemit's direction.
It is unbelievable the work you do so many hours without sleeping so that everything works, should not be lost. There are many things that should be discussed but together you can achieve it, you should only focus on the main problems that exist now.
besides that September 25 will be my birthday😊!
It's going to be a very important day 😊😊!

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prostosun (68) · 6 years ago

@drakos I don't understand all this tecnical detail, i just want to say THANKS for your work as a witness and curator!

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ma1neevent (66) · 6 years ago

Thanks for the update @drakos, interested to see what happens next week!

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veta-less (67) · 6 years ago

I thought Hard Fork had already on September 17...And it turns out that it starts tomorrow 25...Thanks for the information!

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yidneth (67) · 6 years ago

Well, we did fork, sigh... and it's bee quite struggling for everyone, I guess for you all witnesses as well... after the incident prior I would have voted for testing it more. Still every change sometimes comes at a risk and at a cost... and I can't see other solution now than being patient and trust.

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clixmoney (76) · 6 years ago

I;m very positive about the hard fork and I think it will improve steem a lot, I'm still voting for you as a witness, thanks for your activity on the blockchain, I also included you in my recent post about the hard fork.

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