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Hoping it will increasinv

as it goes back up,

He has no idea how everything works.

Flags even contribute to the growth of steem price by keeping the rewards low-->supply low-->high price.

The reward pool gets paid out either way. Post/comment rewards are distributed to everyone else when they are downvoted.

He has no idea how life works.

witness vote removed. was unaware of this comedy routine. hard to trust an opinion coming from the same mouth as they are spitting their own cum out of. to each his own, but there are some things better left private.

No one EVER Claimed he "spits"

😓

LOL

I am embarrassed for him.

He actually said that he swallows.

Well done, and its about time he was blacklisted, I dropped his ass a long time ago, good riddance! Thanks for taking out the garbage @themarkymark ! upped and resteemed for all to see!👍👍👍

Many creators put out quality material and can not even make $5.00 a post and he makes hundreds off of junk or shitposts. Many of the small blogs here cannot even buy upvotes because they do not have to SBD or Steem to do it with and when they try someone else buys a large upvote so their bought vote is crap. In my case, I do not even try it anymore because it is a waste.

i think buying upvotes has promotional aim but not to take a profit. And youre rigth there are planty of quaility creators but they need time gather subscribers. Persistence is a key

Subscribers are absolutely useless. 1% of people who follow me actually upvote my post.
Also, it doesn't matter if you have 5k followers. If they all have zero account value, their votes are worthless anyway. Upvotes don't mean a damn thing on this platform if you don't have whales that constantly upvote you.

A couple hundred plankton votes consistently adds up, but you gotta get them on AUTOVOTER

It is a promotional tool but if you do not have enough to hit high on the trending page it is useless most of the time.

I agree persistence is the key. As I have been trying over a year now, wondering when it will happen. I guess I am not putting out good content for people to read. I will just keep on trying and one day it might get better. That is my hope anyway! I have 1490 followers but most are in the same boat I am in, small and not getting any attention at all.

I just wish this idiot posted the bathroom video BEFORE I fucking invested here. I was led to believe this was the future of social networking, when in fact it's a sorry piece of shit which led to my ruin.

WHAT a piece of comment....you nailed it lolz.

What is this bathroom video you speak of? lol

Jerry lost his witness vote from me for the blowing himself video. I didn't even know he wanted to remove flags.. that's just stupid.. maybe he's been smoking spice.. smh

The fact the community feels Jerry Banfield is top witness material tells a lot about the current state of Steem. Do we have that many people who just don't give a fuck where we go and how we get there?

I think it's ignorance. Jerry is a beacon to a lot of new users because

  1. He is at the top of trending and new users don't know it's garbage yet
  2. He has a lot of dated content out there that people use to educate themselves on steem

New users make up a large number of the available votes out there. If those votes are powered by ignorance, the guy that is capitalizing the most off it is Jerry.

You have to play the long game here. Eventually, these people wise up or leave. If they leave, he gets to keep the vote. If they wise up, then guys like you get the vote. Hopefully, that change comes soon for votes to expire. That's really the only way to knock him off his throne.

grotesque > grotest. I don't know what grotest is.

Hey @themarkymark I was introduced to steemit by jerry and looked up to him as a better content creator to follow, but the few months I've used steemit I realized he was not doing the right things here and unfollowed him, thanks for clearinh his position to us and now I have lost all respect for him as a content creator.

I am not as deep into this topic and the person in question as I should be, but there are a couple things I want to say.

  1. Flags are scary to new users.
    I have been for about five weeks now and everytime I see certain individuals around here posting, I end up not wanting to be a part about that matter because of how flag-heavy they and their followers are. I am not going to say any names, but you probably know the ones.

  2. I am not a fan of witch hunting.
    I can see why this Jerry Banfield isn't everyones most favorite person at the moment, but witch hunting never really solved anything either. I also don't want new posters that come here to see that this is a place where witch hunting isn't only possible but also accepted and permitted.

  3. Steemit in general needs to do a better job at teaching it's users on how to properly use it and understand the surroundings. In fact, I think that steemit still needs a lot of changes and additions if it wants to play in the very big leagues, but let us put this to the side for now.

I can understand your feelings on this topic. I am sure you will understand mine.

I couldn't have said things better myself. Flagging to remove wrong doing is one thing but flagging is abused and used for censorship, it's as plain as the nose on someone's face and it's wrong. It holds back the growth of Steemit and discourages participation on steemit.

Flagging is also a abuse tool when it comes to the witch hunting aspect. I don't care that Jerry wants to sell memberships to people for fifty bucks, it no more of a scam then a lot of other scams on here. Like neglecting to tell people when they sign up that essentially unless you buy in, invest in bots or delegate your chances of getting attention to any quality post is slim to none. What he said or done is no worse than half the stuff you see Bernie say or that guys he's always fighting with ripping off the place for hundreds of thousands of dollars, I mean really people these guys are on trending all the time and they haven't stopped many people from investing or joining. Actually Bernie and his antics make for a rather good joy ride down the comment section, it's rather comical, livens the place up a bit. It's all these "colorful characters" that can make things interesting. So Jerry the snake oil salesman takes advantage....what's new about that?, sounds about right for this place. I just think once you start down this slope there's no turning back. I also personally think he needs help not people turning their backs on him.

I just would like to see steemit being a better place than reddit, financial aspects ignored.

I want people to be better, maybe that is utopic in itself.

Wait a minute, i take some pop-corn !
Eating-Popcorn-Soda.gif

Definitely resteem worthy. Removing flags? The dude is straight up out of his gourd.

The assertion that it should be made an only UI implementation is nonsense. So, just let the abusers walk away with rewards. It's cool as long as we don't see it. AMIRITE! /s

Glad to know this information I won't be voting for Jerry!

Flaffing is nessesery

Everyday I am more and more flabbergasted, why you are not a top 20 witness.

The whole system stinks!

People vote for themarkymark!!

Because I don't have the one vote that matters.

we all want some pumpkin

Thanks to this post, I am going to remove my vote for jerry today. But I had heard something earlier about the top witness list being somehow a scam and your comment here seems to back that up. This is why it is hard for me to feel like I need to understand witnesses at all. If only one vote matters??? Wow.

Dear themarkymark,

Firstly, I have to admit that I am in a hurry and did not read the whole article (please accept my apologies but I just cannot read your whole writing atm Edit: I read your whole post - statement at the end!).
Secondly, Idk a lot about you or @jerrybanfield; I simply "know" that you are big players in Steemit (powerful witnesses respectively whales [?] no one wants to mess with, I think).
Thirdly, flagging must not be removed! At least if it was we would need a similar (respectively better) option because bad content (scam, spam, flaming, plagiarism etc.) has to be kept under control (below the surface/'removed from Steemit'...).
I do not have a better solution currently for such issues - I am not a (great) developer (or powerful Steemian) anyway.


He recently went and made ... bunch of idiots and scammers.

Well, to my mind generally everyone can post and share with the world whatever he wants to - although I really do not think that such topics should be shared publicly, that is why you have friends for, normally (of course there are exceptions, as always; maybe he does not have any friends and so he 'needs' to share it on the Internet, no offense, I just do not know). I really do not want to sound impolite or anything like it.
Btw. naturally posting porn is forbidden but talking about it is not a problem (depends!).
Excuse me, I am not an expert when it comes to Steemit but how can he "put his own post on trending", does not he need the community for that? Oh well, he could have lots of bots or just a lot of money too (what he presumably has if he is a whale).
So that he fell back from #19 to #31 does not seem legitimate, but I highly probable do not know every single "crime" he has committed.
In my view, you should always (try to) act rationally - objectively not subjectively. Moreover as a powerful person. Be fair and do not just hate on others (only) because you do not like them...
Idk, I do not follow Jerry; but if he really is doing all these things you claim then he definitely should change something (or probably should have even earlier). Keyword: awareness (when you are an important Steemian, moreover as a witness). Witnesses should be intelligent, polite and fair - not just rich people.
And they definitely should not be sharing "inappropriate/stupid... stuff".

Yours truly,
Gandalf The White

PS: Steem did not (necessarily) fall because of flagging.

EDIT:

@themarkymark Well, now I have finally read the whole article and I (mostly) agree with you. Jerry's behavior is not appropriate. If everything you wrote is true then he definitely should not be a witness imo. That is very sad that someone like him got that far on Steemit.

Back when I first heard abouy Jerry my close friend told me Jerry was involved with a large company and had control over a large portion of the companys finances. Supposedly he used the money for his own purposes and caused that company quite the heartache. Im not sure about the finer details but it's food for thought.

Isn't his success built on piggybacking the curations? Too many upvote such guys like him just in the hope of making a crumb or too out of the curation rewards, isn't it?

Users see the big payouts and think that's going to give them big curation rewards, that's a big part of what makes his posts go up. I go over that in one of my older posts showing that voting on smaller unrewarded posts will yield far more curation rewards.

Yeah, I agree, finding and upvoting a hidden gem is much more important (and rewarding) than upvoting the big players without even reading them. Unfortunately, JB is exploiting that sheep effect at will, and not only him. And I can't see any algorythms changing that in the near future...

Well played. About time this lier gets banned

Do you really believe this image issue Steemit has, that it can be solved?

If you do believe, how can it be solved?

wait for the BULL RUN steem prize go up...bull run coming soon...

lol, what the hell do u know? lol

Lol, was a pretty good run this past few days so I guess he ended up being right. This stuff is moving like only penny stocks can.

It seems Jerry will be out this platform soon enough.

A witness vote for you is the end of steemit you make people not sign up you're most hated person on steemit people lick you're arse only coz you got power on here but in real life you are a loser stop spamming people and adding them to you're stupid blacklist add yourself to it do everyone a favour no cares about you they just want to get a upvote from you 😂😂😂😂😂

Agreed

i 100% agree with your your opinion that the flaging system will make a controll over the man like Jerry, ( i dislike)otherwise the Workings of the steemit community will disturbs definitely.Thanks for a good post.

@ themarkymark Steem price rise or fall in the coming days?

@manishseo

We are going to moon by the end of the year , book your LAMBO while you have time !!

NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE.

@landmine appreciate that !!

No one knows.

Thankfully I didn’t vote for him, I was going through the other day and voting for witnesses and considered him but didn’t know about him.
What are the other witnesses that aren’t active? So I can remove my votes if I voted for them.

Couldn’t agree more.

...I will sell all of my Steem and use my blog here to exclusively promote that competitor.

Fortunately, after he sells all his Steem, no one will see his blog any longer.

It is about time I heard something smart on here! I tell ya, this has been a very trying period. My patience is wearing thin with all this BS I have to put up with on this platform. I have no witness currently, and it will be quite a while before I even consider diving into that swap again. You are so correct in regards to that individual. Makes my skin crawl and I am not talking about the poison ivy I have from my hike the other day.
I have to say that I want out, but I have to wait for the price to go up again.......that sucks.....not sure if it will go up again. Very Upset.
Do you like google?
Do you enjoy Dlive?
If you said, no and yes...lets keep talking. Otherwise, good luck.

Dude I'm not defending anything that Jerry does. but the guy has a point. did copyright protection software eliminated piracy? nope. we shouldn't take his proposal at face value, but it's right to have the discussion. if I for a moment think of withnesses as representatives, I wouldn't like to vote for a guy the practices bad politics. I.e. bad mouthing the other guy. I know some of you criticism is valid and not mean spirited. You obviously care about Steem. but it's okay to rethink downvoting, since it is proving uneffective in my view.

but it's okay to rethink downvoting, since it is proving uneffective in my view.

It has been proven to be very effective, but not often used.

Maybe against you. What gave that guy the right a couple weeks ago to not only take away information war rewards from my postings but also to flag the articles to take away the other few pennies on the account even AFTER it was proved through Steemcleaners I had the permission, blessing and gratitude from the author to post her stuff? It was pure vendetta driven from a dispute that he had no business being called into....no one corrects these wrongs and that's why flagging has got to go.

Hey! Thanks for giving the summary of what Jerry did on that video. I didn’t dare to watch it :)

Well. I actually saw a stupid facebook post/video of jerry and that made me land here. I haven't got much influence here because steemit already has become very congested and i have been reporting it for a while now. The bots and pay-per-vote has kind of ruined the system but yeah, its the attitude of jerry and people like him at the top of the chain that has hit this most. I once saw his video asking for $270 i think for giving a breakthrough knowledge of something very useful and later i found out that it was the witness thing that he learnt from others and started asking for money for himself.


He has no problem being a turncoat if he doesn't get his way. I'm shocked that Jerry is even in the top 50 witnesses.

Put your vote on someone who can actually promote the platform.

:)

I can not wait till he is gone

Just wait for the BULL RUN and then see the price of STEEM....It will be MOON. Even Astronauts cannot reach there to get STEEM.

That's the most hilarious meme and brings home the point.... :)

I hope he takes everybody that got down on their knees for him when he got here, too.
I didnt like him from the gitgo, but he lost me when he came to work in his underwear, the knobslobbers voted him to trending.
Every seller has a buyer.
Our image problem isnt because of the small account holders,...

No disagreements here.

well, I am part of a small witness called @steemwitness and those that voted for jerry did not know any better but they seem to be wising up
I wrote a small blog about the same thing a few days ago.
https://steemit.com/witness/@felander/steemit-is-getting-wiser-jerry-who

he is now down to spot 30 and keeps going lower, I hope to overtake him some day, that would be a good day both for steem and for me

Would it be bad to request that you blacklist him from using buildawhale? I mean he uses bots and self voting to give most of his posts value.

I just saw that, sorry for putting it here

Don't forget this gem: for only 1 grand you can get a 100% upvote from a 15,000 SP account every 2 days! That's a bargain, right? Right? crickets

Jerry.png

LOL, 15K SP with 1000 people using it because it is the same 15K he uses for his "partners".

Only takes 4.5 years to breakeven!

4.5 years is a bargain, you can even have a phone chat with him in that price! Think of the experiences you can have by being one of Jerry's Kids

The fucking Jerry Coin was too much but the self fellatio is disturbing. is there any way I can unvote him more than once?

Well, you can always flag him...

I haven't flagged anyone and I won't start now.

Hey! Nice writes up! Btw: thanks for giving the summary of what Jerry did on that video. I didn’t dare to watch it :)

Thank god someone else is pushing to get that retards position as a witness dropped.
He's a complete joke. I advocated a week or 2 back to make sure all my followers gave witness votes for the guy immediately above him so that the gap he had to clear got that little bit bigger.

You got a 20.27% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @ipromote!

Want to promote your posts too? Check out the Steem Bot Tracker website for more info. If you would like to support the development of @postpromoter and the bot tracker please vote for @yabapmatt for witness!

You got a 51.33% upvote from @upme thanks to @ipromote! Send at least 3 SBD or 3 STEEM to get upvote for next round. Delegate STEEM POWER and start earning 100% daily payouts ( no commission ).

I feel confident reading this post than the actual Jerry's post about flagging. I will go with the majority's view on point regarding about his actions and his prolific assualt statements against Steem and its people's integrity.

My only concern right now is when will the value of steem again reach to previous heights

Taking Jerry's mask off and showing his real face, excellent.

He has no idea how everything works.

Flags even contribute of the growth of steem by keeping the rewards low-->supply low-->high price.

So long as bots can be used to push trending, where 1 persons vote counts for hundreds of times the next person, then you will see people play games like this.

A scam like this is great when you have 100k+ sp; look, he's getting thousands of dollars consistently with this click bait, now he's got 30k followers.

If that's not a sign of a flawed system I don't know what would be

agreed banfield is just doing bad for steemit see

I vote for all the witnesses surrounding him hoping that it helps him fall in the rankings.

I would prefer you voted for witnesses you believed in rather than blindly picking them, that's kind of how we got where we are.

Well, I can't downvote Jerry, so that's the best I can do. Getting him out of the top 20 changes things. So if we can keep him out it would be a blow to his finances.

...While might be putting to put another "Jerry" on top 20.

I dont think you would vote for president/congress under that logic right?

I have absolutely no idea how he is even in the top 50....just blows my mind.... he's never had my vote....ever... just looking at his face gives me the heebegeebee's....You sir have my vote and have had for quite some time...

Thanks :)

Maybe hes doing the "Bad publicity is good publicity sort of thing"? That's not going to work on steem/steemit, this isn't like any other place on the planet. I'm just waiting for SMT to come out at this point because I feel it will kick things into 2nd gear.

While I don't think this is really witness related, the fact he put it on trending for $1,000+ is.

We have to unvote him for the right reasons , which you have done a good job in highlighting in this post.

BTW which is the one vote that matters for Witness , are you talking about @ned 's vote?

no idea

Interesting and good to know...
Resteemed.

Thx for sharing your thoughts and have the courage to oppose bad behavior on Steemit. I just voted you for witness 👍

Fantastic work with this one,kudos.

Your post design great i like it

I've been following your posts in the last three months that I've been here on steemit. But this is the post in particular that moved me to vote for you as a witness.

Thanks ;)

Interesting to see that Jerry upvoted this post at 92%

He's a shady type of guy. I knew it from the start.
Thank you for this! Resteeming!

Gave you my upvote , it's a little but I hope one day will give you bigger ones

At the end, Good things happen to those who are true and do good to others. By the Wat was he among the first Steemians?

It is an amazing testimony about jerry.

Jerry is upvoting this post too so it must be true :D

Did you buy a vote from Jerry for this post? That's irony. He doesn't get my vote. I support those witnesses who are doing good things good things for this platform

Nope. Some did though for the giggles I think.

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Once a vote is placed for a witness does it remain there forever unless removed by the user?

I ask this question as I'm sure many newcomers show up, post a few articles, vote for a witness, and leave to never return. If this is the case maybe a better solution is forcing everyone to revote for their witness of choice each 1 year anniversary of their account. If they do not participate their witness votes are removed until they do.

You have 30 votes, you can put them on whoever you like and remove them at any time.

I was aware of that part. I was wondering about the potential countless accounts who have voted for a witness, but are no longer active on here. Do their votes continue to count forever?

If that is the case I think there would have to be a better process like something I mentioned above in order to encourage witnesses to continue to win over active users votes. Not allowing them to hold their position because they convinced a newcomer to vote for them 2 years ago right before hat new user gave up and left steemit forever.

Yes, they count forever and one of the issues plaguing witness voting. There are a lot of inactive witnesses that are still voted with a lot of stake and there are a lot of witnesses who gave up on Steem but still get a payday for their witness position.

Got it. I appreciate the explanation!

For the last 12 hours i have been on Steem today,Jerry has had a field day.

I have read many posts about the negative side of Jerry,sorry for him though.

Well thats an eye opening post.... I must say you brilliantly analyzed his actions...

Hmm... thanks for breaking down why you disagree with Jerry.

I was annoyed that you blacklisted him because he seemed to be genuine about his suggestion to remove flagging. So shouldn't be an offense to recieve blacklisting.

Some of the other things you list here do seem to be very bad deals if someone ends up buying.

You just upvote my every new post and in return I will follow you and upvote with a comment on your every new post in future.
Believe That.
https://steemit.com/mgsc/@santosh786/no-more-aids

When I first joined, I thought that Jerry wasn't so bad.. then I continued reading and reading and realized that he is a phony and a scam artist.

I'm glad that you posted this and I hope that enough people read this and take it to heart. That guy is bad for the platform. I wish you could vote in the negative AGAINST a witness. There are a few witnesses who I would like to "down-vote" their witness power. I don't care if the down-vote takes up one of my 30 total votes .. Also, knowing the number of accounts that voted FOR vs Against a single witness while you're voting on the witness page would be helpful .... that would be a much more useful addition to the Steemit Ecosystem than removing flagging... ugh..

I am totally agree with you if a peraon can laugh at whole community with his nsfw post and go laughing that nobody will do anything its really bad for a great community like steemit

@themarkymark i have a question ??.

Why the new users in steemit doesn't get any votes. Lots of new users are losing hope in Steemit. Is that their reputation score is low ?

Reputation has little to do with anything on Steemit. It is a broken system that is so easily gamed it has little point.

The reason is that curation rewards are so low that it is the attractive action on Steem due to the 10:1 or more difference between self-voting. Most people have people they vote for already and don't venture from that list very far.

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That's why lots of new users are losing hope. I have post a blog about this because in discord lots of people are saying this so . But thanks for explaining. Hope the new users gots some support from the higher reputation score users :)

Hold in there, there is hope communities will help in this regard. 50/50 curation rewards might also be a good solution that will encourage people with stake to vote on new users.

It isn't easy, and it certainly isn't fair.

Have a look at this post and this one.

Thanks brother i got my answer :) you explained it very well thank you .

Jerry is annoying like the one on rick and morty. Speaking of scammers @trevonjb is back to use his scammy money too.

His history is pretty sketchy before joining, he used to sell courses online and got kicked off the course selling site for being a scam. He also got run out of Dash community. When someone said "look into his past" I did. Its really scammy. I don't think Steemit needs a crook advertising for us in youtube

@themarkymark What I have to say about the flags and removing posts for false copyright claims is that these FLAGS are hurting people that are not guilty of the things you listed. Here is a link to a "copyright claim" to my blog that was my article. I wrote it/ My words!!!! I blogged it and because it is exposing the Sandy Hook School shooting lies and cover-ups that Lenny Pozner is Reubin Vabner it was picked apart all month by taking down pictures and then the entire blog. I agree with Jerry Banfield. https://steemit.com/news/@monaalexis27/sandy-hook-not-only-is-noah-pozner-a-fiction-but-his-father-lenny-is-also-a-fake-mirrored

Show me this copyright claim.
You one of those who says Sandy Hook was faked?

LOL, yes I am "one of those" that say Sandy Hook was faked. You know why? Because it was. Many top experts have proven in so many ways that Sandy Hook was fake. There is an entire book you can download about some of the initial research for free online. It is called "Nobody DIed at Sandy Hook" by Dr. James Fetzer and here is the link for that.
http://reformation.org/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf Here is a link to my blog that proves that Lenny Pozner is a fake name. He is Reubin Vabner and how this fraud used his now-grown son Michael Vabners childhood pics for Sandy Hook fake son, Noah Pozner. https://steemit.com/news/@monaalexis27/sandy-hook-not-only-is-noah-pozner-a-fiction-but-his-father-lenny-is-also-a-fake-mirrored
This blog has been taken down 4 times in one month off of jamesfetzer.blogspot.com site. The article was published in Penn Magazine which is the only place you can find it now. It is on page 77-99. https://archive.org/stream/1984Ish2/1984ish%282%29#page/n0/mode/2up
I thought Steemit would be a place this information would be safe so Americans can be informed that their government and players working for them are deceiving them for a disarmament agenda. I was wrong because the blog has been deleted from all places on the internet except Penn Magazine. Do not turn Steemit into another censorship platform!!!!!!

Where is this copyright claim for your steemit post and where did it come from?

Here is the link to my blog that no longer shows on Steemit and it states on it no longer shows due to copyright claims https://steemit.com/news/@monaalexis27/sandy-hook-not-only-is-noah-pozner-a-fiction-but-his-father-lenny-is-also-a-fake-mirrored

Where did it come from? Your guess is as good as mine.

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@themarkymark voted for you as a witness

Thanks :)

There is a certain danger that without flags, Steam will turn into a garbage dump. Without cleaners, it is impossible to exist. What is the recent story of a pseudo-artist who stole other people's works

Yes, exactly... this story

I will not say anything more...nice post

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