In a truly functional society built to service the needs of humankind, run by any honest system of governance or management, electricity and many other things could very easily provided freely without the need to terrorize or exploit anyone
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the system has so much blood on his hands that advocating for fixing it is nonsensical... just let it crash using non-participation but be prepared to rebuild anew.
Just like the coltan war that has killed millions of africans for a mineral used in electronics. Even typing on this PC makes me an accomplice somehow. We are all so connected. Indeed.
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I love what you say and how you say it except, in the end you are ... a Socialist? Government provide free healthcare, housing, food, everything? How do you see that working? The government doesn't provide anything, it just takes what it wants at the point of a gun. So, for the government to "provide" everything to everyone would mean forcing citizens to provide it to others at the point of a gun ... Right? Otherwise, this is a system of laziness until no one will do anything unless forced to. Everyone needs the incentive of gain, not force.
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sharylee... no monetary system can survive without debt creation and taxation, otherwise it creates a zero-sum game with no losers nor winners. Money would systematically cease to be an incentive. I blog a lot about it. Just like Max said, the purpose of economics is control and artificial scarcity
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I do understand the ponzy debt system we have but I don't understand how a government can provide everything for everyone. Without the means to force, there would be no government so it won't happen. Everyone would naturally provide for themselves and I can see that extending out to family, friends and community through good old fashioned bartering or other forms of exchange like gold, silver, crypto etc, but to say that the purpose of government to provide all needs for everyone without compulsion eludes me. If Max thinks people are capable of being so selfless they need no personal incentive to do anything is beyond fantasy.
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oop sorry for late reply... but the system I speak of has no government and managed by earth custodians entirely voluntary. Competition will never generate any freedom at all but a society ruled by the fittest. Go to my blog and see my latest entry, a presentation that will be worth your time... and my YT channel if you seek more answers.
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No offence but it sounds like to were able to miss the point entirely Sharylee.... You need to stop applying economics to your thinking. the economy is a fiction, we made it up. Money has zero to do with life and its use is superimposed over human consciousness for one reason. to create an environment of artificial scarcity. That is the sole purpose of money.
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So how does this Government you speak of motivate people to provide everything for everyone without force? I'm pretty sure everyone will be busy providing for themselves and their own if they're free to.
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as I said, it seems like to were able to miss the point entirely Sharylee.... stop applying economics to your thinking
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Well then if it's done on a voluntary basis it would not be government anymore. It would be something like charity or a company so.
In the later replies you talk about the economic system imposed on the people, that's true now.
But there is no difference between working for money and handing it over to the slave master a.k.a. forced labor, and doing the forced labor under thread of force for "society" or "the common good" being forced by some "system of governance or management" If you choose to live under a system of governance or management that's fine but there would need to be an option of not being governed and managed.
I.m.o. even if there was no money at all people would still engage is economic behavior. To give an example if someone was living in a community and had to work there 20 hour per week to provide for the "the needs of the community" (whatever that may be) and in another community he had to work 15 hours for the "common good" people would still switch.
I see no other way for "society" ( I hate to speak for a concept) than that things happen on a voluntary basis. I fact I speak now for myself, being managed or governed is not what life is about I'm a grown up I don't need some "know it all control freaks" to make me do the right thing. Suggestion and advice is fine and I'm all for coöperation and sharing on voluntary basis......but force.......NO.
Or to say it differently; if there is consent, it's voluntary, if it's governed it's not.
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