The Will of the Artist Vs. The Want of the PeoplesteemCreated with Sketch.

in art •  7 years ago  (edited)

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An interesting story popped up last night. @s0u1 and @winstonalden both wrote about author Terry Pratchett, who died in 2015 from complications due to Alzheimer's.

@s0u1's article: https://steemit.com/news/@s0u1/hard-disc-with-10-of-terry-pratchett-s-unfinished-novels-crushed

@winstonalden's article: https://steemit.com/books/@winstonalden/10-unfinished-works-by-terry-pratchett-crushed

As a writer, he had something like 10 unfinished books on a hard drive that was to be destroyed upon his death, which he expressly wrote in his will.

@s0u1 said: "It's fantastic they followed his request. But, they could have finished the novels and made a lot of money to help in the fight against Alzheimer's."

And that's certainly valid. For someone who was as apparently as popular as Pratchett was, book sales from those unfinished, unpublished works could have raised a not-insignificant amount of money on behalf of Alzheimer's research. As someone whose grandfather died from complications due to Parkinson's, I totally get it. We never want to see our loved ones (or anyone else) go through that kind of debilitating disease. It's brutal to watch and I imagine it's brutal to experience. The altruism there IS important.

But...does that altruism supersede the will of the artist? And this is where @s0u1 and I diverge on this topic, which is fine. And let me be clear, I'm not calling him out or trying to paint him as a terrible person, only that we disagree on this particular point. Also, I think he's just a super-huge fan of Pratchett's writing, which is totally fine as well.

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I think what bothers me most about the exchange is the phrase "he would never know how they turned out."

Well, sure...he's dead. But that's not really the point, is it?

Artists are, by and large, weird creatures. No matter the medium, we have a particular love for each piece that we create. We often know the impetus for the creation, what caused us to start them or what inspired us to begin them. In many ways, the objects we create (whether they be a piece of music, a piece of writing, a sculpture, an oil painting, whatever)...those objects are our children.

We birth them, we nurture them into something more, we cultivate them into something larger until finally, they reach a point where they cannot be any more perfect than what they are, at least in our eyes. I've had stories that have taken me several years to finish and I've had stories that I've started and finished within two hours; no matter on which end of the spectrum those stories sit, they are still mine and they are nobody else's.

So I have a serious issue with the idea that people believe once an artist is dead that the artist's entire oeuvre is fair game for public consumption, regardless of what they state in their will. Sure, we've had plenty of amazing literature come to light after a writer has passed, but we've also seen plenty of really mediocre (and honestly awful) results from someone picking up the mantle and finishing someone else's work.

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This is a timely subject as I'm currently reading "The Girl in the Spider's Web," the fourth book in the Lisbeth Salander series first started by Stieg Larsson ("The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo"). While many of the characters are the same and the locale is the same and it's the same kind of thriller as the previous books, it's simply NOT Stieg Larsson at the helm of his own creation. The book does not read the same. In fact, it kind of drags on and on in many places in ways the first three books did not.

This is all to say: if the artist has created something and put it out into the world, it's fair game. At that point, it's fair game to criticism and to praise, to dissection and to imitation. But it should only be released into the world according to the artist's standards and absolutely no one else's.

Will we end up losing some great literature or art because of this? Probably. But it's not like you knew they existed in the first place, so what did YOU really lose anyway?

Nothing.

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It's nice to see further discussion on the topic.
My wife is an author and I assure you she as at least 6 unfinished books. (If @michelle.gent is reading this. Get them finished or I will, when you are gone.) I still plan to out live her. :)
I do believe what they did was the correct thing to do. In my comments on my post I was giving other points of view and so were others. It's what this place is great for.
I also maybe like stirring things a little to get things moving.
@molovelly Terry was an Humanist so I doubt he was planning on haunting anyone. :)
That basis of my statement 'he could have helped many more people' is counteracted with the point that the work may not have been up to his standard and may also have been written in the later years of his illness and therefore nothing like his past work, is against their use.
Great discussion.

it's a super interesting discussion that i brought into the office with me. definitely some good points on either side.

on the one hand, we lose some significant art if it gets destroyed.
on the other, we never had access to it before, so...did we really lose it?

and we could totally go down the rabbit hole of quality vs. quantity too. :P

but yes, totally agreed...phenomenal discussion!

Quite true, you can't lose what you haven't had'.

I have only read one of Pratchett's books. I think you need a good imagination to enjoy them.

On the other hand I love @alienbutt 's books and they are out of this world.

The artist's wishes should be honored. It's interesting how this is even an issue but I guess there are those who just "know better". Good post.

BOOM! I feel this. Should I die leaving unfinished work on my laptop, DO NOT PUBLISH IT. That's still mine, with no contract to anyone but myself. To me that would be the same as someone digging up their body to sell their skull - they did that crazy crap back in the day. I am in 100% agreement with your statement to @s0u1. I would be pretty freakin pissed if someone did that to me, even if I wasn't there to know about it. Respect the art.
Thanks for posting, bucho! Upvoted and Resteemed.
Mo

thank ya, dear! i have a feeling many more of us are actually in-line with my thoughts on this than not, especially the creators.

i would legitimately haunt the shit out of someone if they did this to me. i would ruin them from the afterlife on a daily basis until they fixed it.

Right? What if those unfinished works are unfinished because he thought them to be crap? We writers have been known to do and think such things. Until it has a cover on it and a publisher's stamp, hands off.

pretty much exactly. there's a reason half the stuff on my external hard drive hasn't been sent out for publication...it's awful!

Great discussion!

I wrote my first published novel in 1999 - it wasn't published until 2010 and in that time, I spent ages re-writing it, editing it, adding, removing and juggling pieces of it.

We birth them, we nurture them into something more, we cultivate them into something larger until finally, they reach a point where they cannot be any more perfect than what they are, at least in our eyes.

My work (to me) is never finished, I can always go back and edit some piece, or add to another piece because I am always changing and 'evolving' as a writer.

That's probably why I have six (probably more) novels still unfinished. And at the end of my life, if I haven't finished them all, I'd rather my work goes out to my adoring public (haha bear with me, artistic licence, you know...) and my family, or, if they already have more money than they can spend because I've been SO successful (Again, gimme a bit of lee-way, I write fiction...) a charity benefits from the sale of the works.

Just in case I do die in suspicious or unexpected circumstances, I'm pretty sure my husband had nothing to do with it... yeah... pretty sure...

:D

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BUT, if you do publish, make sure you get a damn-good editor for them. I want my stuff to be quality, ok? ;)

i'm also of the mindset that my work is rarely ever finished or could at least use tweaking here. and there. and a little more here. and a little more there...

but you're pickin' up what i'm puttin down.

however, i personally couldn't allow my unfinished stuff to ever make it into public eyes unless another trusted writer friend, laid out in my will, read through it all and determined that it was worth reading. but i know about 3 people who i would trust with that particular duty.

I understand.

My writing is evolving, progressing and the stories I have left to finish range from 20 years old to about a year old.

When I look back at the older stuff, I literally cringe at the naïveté of my writing.

Having said that. If I were as famous and universally loved as Terry Pratchett, I do think my work would be in great demand after I leave this plane, shuffle off this mortal coil and because of that, I would love to think auctioning off my work to a group of hungry publishers to the highest bid would do no end of good in this world where money may not be everything, but it can sure ease a lot of woes.