Art of the train

steevc (73) in art • 7 years ago (edited)

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steveconnor (65) · 7 years ago

I think it's something that will never go away. Some even think Cavemen were the original Graffiti Artists so perhaps it's a natural urge for humans to leave their mark somewhere !

host.the.freak (34) · 7 years ago

The graffiti is not exactly something you can do on a piece of paper, so it's a type of art. I appreciate graffiti a lot because really it's not easy using spray paint to create such works. It requires a lot of concentration, focus, creativity. The government and people feel it's a nuisance to the society and as such made it illegal making it a crime.

To answer your question.. Yes and Yes.. it's art and a crime.

But the government and the people need to learn to appreciate the art of graffiti and see what can be done so graffiti artists can express themselves. Everyone deserves the freedom of expression.

pennsif (79) · 7 years ago

I know Stevenage well...

But that is impressive. I wonder how long it took to create? I presume under cover of darkness with headlamps perhaps?

steevc (73) · 7 years ago

Probably. I assume it happened wherever the trains stay overnight. I was never the sort to sneak out at night to do this sort of thing

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pennsif (79) · 7 years ago

I must confess I was a trainspotter in my younger days (parka and bins and all that) but never a trainpainter...

hobbit9797 (40) · 7 years ago

Why can't it be an art and a crime?
Certainly tagging is just pure vandalism stemming from a desire to mark your territory, to put your name on the map.
But actual street art? Still vandalism imho. But vandalism can have artistic and aesthetic value!

The very first line of the moderately famous German song Kling Klang by Keimzeit says the following:

Graffitis machen graue Wände lebend'ger, ich wünschte ich könnt das auch.

Translated: Graffiti livens up grey walls, I wish I could do the same.

I couldn't imagine cities without their street art! They would just be huge blocks of concrete.

trevor.george (67) · 7 years ago

I'm a bit torn on this question.

Yes it is vandalism. but if it is done well, it is art. Just painting a stylized squiggle is not art (to me).

but for most taggers, their goal is not about creating art, or making a statement (unlike Banksy). it is about ... tagging. Putting their mark to say 'Look how cool I am. I'm a rebel. Chicks will love me for this.'

They don't understand, and don't care that they are damaging someone else's property.

But for those who paint something that displays talent, or thought, or promotes a laugh or thoughtful reaction, I can soften my condemnation of the crime.

I guess it comes down a lot to where it is, what it says and how well it is done.

the-bitcoin-dood (63) · 7 years ago

In New York it can be a felony. I think giving a graffiti artist a felony is just wrong. It's art, sometimes it's annoying, other times it does brighten up a dreary space. The Dood's actually a fan, but even after making it a felony it really hasn't deterred artists from tagging or practicing their craft. Just ruined the lives of the few young people they've caught. Seems victimless for the most part, shouldn't be such a harsh penalty.

rebeccabe (63) · 7 years ago

Well, I have noticed it on delivery trucks like in Detriot and yes it is not cool.
As a matter of fact, we saw it on a water tower in one city. That took some doing. I have not seen it on trains where we live probably the right trains have not gone by. I seldom wait for a train.

moemanmoesly (67) · 7 years ago (edited)

Speaking from experience it has probably already been cleaned off, i consider this a form of art where vandalism is a big part of it.

zeitgleich (43) · 7 years ago (edited)

I found a can job on a train i really liked a while back. A lot of grafiti work tends to be fugly but ever so often there are gems. Tagging is just a whole other game in a city. I reckon you got to take the good with the bad.

kileart (33) · 7 years ago (edited)

If your interested in graffiti, I highly suggest watching this movie, it's about New york subway graffiti in the 70's and 80's.

Cheers!

blog-beginner (53) · 7 years ago

Pretty subjective question. Answer will more or less depend on how was my day. In general I would appreciate watching art instead of repeating advertisements.

tradewolf (51) · 7 years ago

I consider as anarchist art, very nice shot ;)

ran.koree (66) · 7 years ago (edited)

Scusi se mi permetto,puo considerare un disegno su un muro o su treno un crimine?
Credo che i crimini siano altri,puo essere per alcuni un atto di vandalismo per altri è un arte una subcultura che dura da molti anni
Dietro ogni disegno c'è una storia e oltre la voglia di far conoscere il proprio nome c'è la voglia di esprimersi....se le interessa questo movimento a mio parere artistico ci sono molti libri e documentari che parlano della nascita dei graffiti e del hip hop...

Excuse me if I allow myself, can you consider a design on a wall or on a train a crime?
I believe that crimes are others, it can be for some an act of vandalism for others is an art a subculture that has lasted for many years
Behind every design is a story and beyond the desire to make known your name is the desire to express yourself .... if you are interested about this movement my artistic thought there are many books and documents that talk about the birth of graffiti and hip hop ...

yogaunimal (49) · 7 years ago

prevention of crime perpetrators of graffiti who crossed out railway cars. the New South Wales government has found a technology to detect the perpetrator. That is an electronic sensor called a mouse trap.

docpaoh (41) · 7 years ago

For me, the graffiti is art if done in permitted places and with the consent of the person in change, but if the graffiti is done disrespecting some area, that is vandalis, because they invade the privac. Now, it also depends of message that these graffiti want to convey. It can be seen from several perspectives.

prasityo (41) · 7 years ago

For some railroad lovers, there is a strong desire to have their favorite miniature railway series.

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abontikazaman (52) · 7 years ago

@steevc......today you post a very informative thing......i think ,,,,,,,,,,,that was not only a art but also a great crime.......

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hakagraffiti (48) · 7 years ago

Nice shot

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davedickeyyall (73) · 7 years ago

It's a art... for thrill seekers...

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nancy007 (49) · 7 years ago

I know there's a long history of graffiti on trains around the world, but I don't often see it on those I use. I wasn't on this train, but it was at Stevenage today. I wonder how long before it gets cleaned off.

Nice post thankings for educating us

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steevc (73) · 7 years ago

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nancy007 (49) · 7 years ago

I know there's a long history of graffiti on trains around the world, but I don't often see it on those I use. I wasn't on this train, but it was at Stevenage today. I wonder how long before it gets cleaned off.

Nice post thanks for educating us

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