RE: continued discussion Atheist~Christian. How do you know? Gaslighting. Delusion. How many Jesuses?

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continued discussion Atheist~Christian. How do you know? Gaslighting. Delusion. How many Jesuses?

in atheism •  7 years ago 

Oh interesting. You're starting from the base that we live in God's universe so that atheists in that world are just in denial.

Or you know, values are ever changing out of necessity, because otherwise a group of people cannot live in harmony. You'd think that it isn't a coincidence that societies across the world came up with oddly similar values. Right... Because they are all gods creatures and this played out like a bad game of telephone.

The real question is whether it's possible for these values to have developed naturally or not. To you, they must have been inspired by God. To me, it's a natural, ever changing process. And you can see elements of group behavior in other animals that have similar characteristics, and you might wonder how that came to be as well. God? Or simply small adjustments over time that are done to improve survival?

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You're starting from the base that we live in God's universe so that atheists in that world are just in denial.

Yes. That is because we are trying to reason and think rationally, and the only possible foundation of reason and intelligibility is that Jesus is Lord.

values are ever changing out of necessity

So what you're saying is that:
--child rape was once good
--preferring lies to truth was once good
--adhering to theism was once good
--throwing atheists in big pits covered with deadly snakes was once good

Correct?

And how did you come to this conclusion about values ever changing? How do you know?

otherwise a group of people cannot live in harmony

But it isn't a moral duty to live in harmony with others, correct?

The real question is whether it's possible for these values to have developed naturally or not.

I'd say a more real question is whether other people even exist and whether your senses are reliable.