An extremely risky open letter to both @grumpycat and @sneaky-ninja (wtf am I doing)

in bidbot •  6 years ago  (edited)

The proposal

@grumpycat I don't know if anyone has come up with this idea, but I understand what you want to do the most is to flag @sneaky-ninja, but you can't, because he doesn't post anything, right? How about this:

  • @sneaky-ninja makes a secondary account and delegates as much steem power as you have (or as you'd prefer to arrange). He sets it to 100% auto-post 10 times a day. @grumpycast downvotes it 10 times a day.

This way, your disagreement to his rewards is fullfiled to as much as you can afford. This could go on forever because of your disagreement on how much he has gained ever since you have come to think what he does is wrong.


A factory generating pollution to produce products for the greater good of their customers and the ideals of it's CEO. It is not completely eco-friendly only because being perfectly green would go against desired cost and effort budget projections. (source)

Certainly I'll be screwed, but...

Fuck me, I care too much about steem to ignore it. Because an important share of my income comes from my blog, I'm honestly trembling in fear as I write this, afraid of the outcome. But this is not about me.

Truth be told, @sneaky-ninja, I don't think that many people buy into the argument "big $ upvotes are surprise gifts as last minute." Not only every big upvote is a great surprise by itself, this also goes against what upvotes are for. They are specifically meant for curation and visibility. This is most notoriously true when we're talking about the big bucks.

Besides, blacklists don't cover every garbage post. This goes for granted. It's not okay to throw 1000 galons of oil into the ocean, but it's also not okay to let a single galon slip out. If an upvote bot - any of them - is upvoting garbage, then yeah, it could do be better. It should do better.

On the other hand, @grumpycat's methods end up hurting more than healing, despite his best intentions. It's no wonder he ends up portrayed as a villain by almost everyone.

Actually it is about me

Every now and then I bid for-profit using @sneaky-ninja. Because I want to grow and make steem more steem-like. Day-by-day I see our (not so) untapped waters shift further towards an oil-stained sea, as it progressively becomes an unhospitable habitat.

I want to make a difference and I try very hard to do it in my own way, as anyone can observe by the different style of my community-engaging @gamegiveaways curation, the way I constantly put out good articles, etc. Still, I have too little influence around here. I use everything I can put my hands on to grow so I can eventually make a difference.

Under my perspective, "using a service opposed to my own beliefs" is selfish but pro-active to what I think is best to the platform. Just like flagging good posts voted by non-grumpy compliant services... Or running upvote bot services that accept 6-days old posts.

This is like old news remastered!

Only just now I've completely organized in my mind why I think @grumpycat is right in ideals and @sneaky-ninja is wrong. As soon as I had this eureka moment, this proposal naturally came to me. Of course, it is biased towards my opinion of who's right and who's wrong. But I strongly value my opinion, so I decided to put it out there.

This has been in the back of my mind ever since I've first heard of it. I just can't let go of a systematic problem until I can at least understand what's causing it. Unfortunately not always will I solve it, as it can go beyond my limitations, which might be the case here.


tl;dr: imo cat is right in ideals but wrong in methods, bidbots accepting 6 days old posts is crap because upvotes (specially the biggies) are only for visibility and curation, no real solution for both sides at once has been presented, everyone is both nurturing and damaging somehow, I care and I want to be heard (am I dead yet), only posted this now because I just finished processing after months

The picture and it's description sums it all up more than anything. It goes for every bid bot and service out there that doesn't clean up after itself.


This might put the last nail on my coffin:
@the-resistance, @wackou, @drakos, @thealliance, @honeybeee


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at this point everybody knows about bidbots and they know the 'trending page' isn't about what is trending. there's also heavily curated tags that prevent people from using them. it's not perfect but there is some self regulating on steemit. there's still hope.
and i hope account-based voting and SMTs work as intended...

Exactly. It just annoys me to no end how grumpycat was always right, but his methods turned everyone away from how right he was.

It also sucks how everyone sees it clearly now, yet not much has changed.

Change? Steem Power can change. Having enough Steem Power can change better. Having being the creator of Steem and have enough Steem Power, you can even delete a comment, a post, alter the blockchain which can't be (not supposed to be) alterable. Stay below radar. Comment on what you should and what you would. Touch not the sensitive topic for the sake of survival skill. No longer feeling the fun of it? Create another account and be the 2nd grumpydog instead! don't worry about it. You'll feel better if your post gotten downvote, atleast someone acknowledges your voice. But if it doesn't, you'll be continue wandering around and thinking what have I done wrong. Nothing wrong with you, neither do the grumpy ones. The only thing that doesn't agree here is, who has more power.

On the side note, why don't you boost this post and see if you get the downvote? But I guess it's too dumb right? By boosting a high risk and sensitive post, hoping you don't trigger the grump and groups.

Stay safe buddy. Don't bother to upvote my post nor comment. I'm just a passerby don't even have a super nintendo. Merely speak from my mind.

Every account I've mentioned wants to nurture steemit in somee way, just like me, so I honestly don't worry that much about that. I would gladly boost it, though. I don't think it steps on anyone's toes, but I've got no SBD at the moment. I did make a few mentions which could get me into trouble regardless of boosting so I'm still anxious.

Truth be told, @sneaky-ninja, I don't think that many people buy into the argument "big $ upvotes are surprise gifts as last minute." Not only every big upvote is a great surprise by itself, this also goes against what upvotes are for. They are specifically meant for curation and visibility. This is most notoriously true when we're talking about the big bucks.

Upvotes are for showing appreciation and respect for work, the curation and visibility is just an added bonus.

There is zero reason to delay it to the last second and, even more so, I'm sure buying an upvote on a 6-days old post as a gift is an extremely rare scenario.

Upvotes are for showing appreciation and respect for work

That's still curation.

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