What caused the drop in Bitcoin? Hint: It might not be what you think...

in bitcoin •  7 years ago  (edited)

For months now, Bitcoin has gone basically one direction, up.

There had been minor corrections along the way, in both September and November, but nothing really significant since August.

That all changed last night when Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies plunged by as much as 40% in less than 12 hours.

That is by far the biggest move down in that short of time that we have seen in months.

What caused the drop?

Well, like many dips in the past, the specific cause isn't always clear.

Some are speculating that it had to do with the hacking of the South Korean crypto exchange Youbit. Where roughly 1/5th of the exchange's holdings were stollen by hackers.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/20/technology/south-korea-bitcoin-exchange-closes/index.html

The exchange immediately became insolvent following the hack.

Some other speculations had to do with the drama surrounding the bitcoin cash inclusion on Coinbase, which saw prices briefly reach $8,500 within minutes of enabling trading on the coin.

Trading was immediately halted and a more "normal" roll-out was done hours later, which still saw prices of bitcoin cash climb by roughly 100% from its pre Coinbase addition prices.

https://steemit.com/bitcoincash/@jrcornel/coinbase-now-supports-bitcoin-cash-but-the-inclusion-wasn-t-without-some-drama

Much of that price appreciation came at the expense of bitcoin, as it's price dropped by roughly the same amount that bitcoin cash's price gained.

The most likely cause for the drop?

This is my opinion, but I would say the most likely cause for the drop was a combination of the above and also something else... something a little more sinister.

I think there was big time price manipulation going on.

I think there was price manipulation going on during the runup in prices and I think there was price manipulation on the drop we are currently seeing unfold.

According to a report released a few days ago, roughly 40% of all the circulating bitcoins are owned by roughly 1000 investors.

These investors are mostly made up of wealthy individuals, some institutions, and some hedge funds.

Given the large percentage of the asset they hold, it would not take much collussion on their part to really affect prices.

For example, if just a couple of these guys (or hedge funds) got together and decided they were going to get involved with a wash trading scheme in order to walk prices up, it really wouldn't be all that hard.

Plus who is to stop them? There aren't really any regulators policing this kind of activity.

The scheme:

Basically, the way it would work is that a couple of these large holders would just start trading back and forth among themselves, creating the illusion of heavy trading volume.

In doing so, they could also walk prices up or down via wash trading.

So, the net effect would be increasing prices and steady (high) volumes all the way up.

The increased prices would draw in retail investors/traders and also draw in the media which starts blasting stories on bitcoin 24/7.

Then when prices get "high enough" and there is enough outside money entering, these large holders start to dump some of their positions on the newly invested retail players.

Driving prices down, quickly past where retail entered, causing retail to panic sell and further drive prices down.

The net effect becomes a plummeting bitcoin price.

Then, when prices get low enough, which in this case was roughly 50% off the highs, the big players show back up and buy up their positions again.

Rinse and repeat.

This kind of thing becomes even more profitable when you factor in the futures/options markets where these large players could have also bought puts and sold calls before they drove prices down, thus making even more money on the move.

I can't say for sure that this is what is happening, but to be honest, I would be surprised if something like this wasn't happening.

Greed is a very powerful motivator... and if something is wreckable, it will be.

Stay informed my friends.

Image Sources:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-manipulation-centralized-exchanges-seems-coordinated/

http://www.livebitcoinnews.com/bitcoin-price-suffers-behind-scenes-manipulation-intensifies/

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Thank you for posting

Once Wall $treet gets involved, it's game over. They are masters at these tricks and the crypto space is virgin territory for them.

Totally agree. This looks too coordinated. Plenty of alts and BTC all drop at the same time pretty significantly, and then the whales pick them back up at low prices. This has been going on for awhile, but now the drops look bigger due to the higher prices in the crypto world.

I just donated some blood, sold a kidney and sucked an old guys dick to get some cash to buy it when it was at $20k!

At least it will be worth more than a cheeseburger. 😂😂

Great analysis @jrcornel.... In regards of Youbit hack, some people said that hackers cashing out the the money thus driving the market down. Bitcoin vs bitcoin cash drama is just began, we might see a lot of people dump bitcoin and convert it to BCH (nowdays there are massive campaigns to replace bitcoin with BCH) and this could also drive the market down. Profit taking, pump and dump, and also the opening of bitcoin futures at CME & CBOE give new opportunities for hedge funds to play it. A lot of whale investors with billions dollars of money come to this sector. All of these have contribution to the market and give domino effects & panic selling. I guess we will see a lot of volatilities like this in 2018..... so take a deep breath & continue to be rational.

That could certainly have been part of it, the hack and selling of the ill gotten gains. Although a lot more money was coming onto the markets than just the amount stolen from Youbit, which makes me think it was a combination of things, with a lot of manipulation. :)

Indeed great analysis...

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Totally agree, there are few mega-whales that doing with the market whatever they want...
This is why I switch to HODL, you can't predict anything... It is less about technology, more about their games.

Yes - the futures market and extensive visibility has brought in the big dogs. Sometimes they play hard. They will weed out the dump money entering the market. This will be a good think in the long term.

@jrcornel definitely multiple problems all adding to the crash but here is a quick recap; youbit hacked, etherdelta hacked, coinbase insider trading, bitcoin futures, net neutrality, new tax plan, charlie lee selling all his ltc, and i'm sure there is more!

Christmas?

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But seriously, one more round and get out? Will it go slower or faster this time? I'm betting on LTC, EOS and maybe BitShares, Bitcoin Cash and Dash...

Very interesting. I know people who almost invested when it was 40$ a pop. Oh how rich they'd be now!

Spot on - it's also worth pointing out how SMALL the crypto market actually is in terms of market capitalization - it's a pittance compared to the figures some of the world's largest financial players operate in terms of.

Thanks for raising this! It's quite concerning...

"What goes up, must come down."

-- Isaac Newton

Only on this earth my friend, newton had no clue about what can happen in space ;-).

BTC finally reached the moon this year. Now it's heading back to refuel & heading to Mars. #BTCtoMars

My theory is that a lot of people pulled out for the holidays. you'll remember that many currencies went down about this time last year. I can't confidently say that these people aren't doing what you suggest, but there may be other factors.

Great post @jrcornel. I also read somewhere on Bitcointalk that the interview with Roger Ver might have had some impact on the current drop in Bitcoin. Not sure if this is the reason but these guys have the influence.

I hope you don't mind me sharing your post in my Steemit Facebook Group. People need to know the reason why this happen https://www.facebook.com/groups/steemitkings/permalink/1835492263408571

These guys are just playing the market because they can , you don't need many bitcoins to play this game. We now also have gov's and banks in it (all want to buy cheap BTC so that they can control it). Keep some liquidity up your sleeve there will be more dips coming up soon.
Note: Please do your own research before making any financial decisions.

Yeah I know. Its really scary to know that these people hold so much power over the price of Bitcoin. I might be wrong about this but it seems the first wave of the reverse elliot wave have begun. I think you're right. Bitcoin might drop even further. Perhaps till the $8k mark. I am keep mostly cash with the hopes of getting Bitcoin at a cheaper price.

It could just be the time of the year and people are taking profits along with panic selling we could have a major bounce

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There is no market that is so easily manipulated as the crypto market. Although the manipulations sound terrifying this can actually create more opportunities for the common investor/trader than in classical assets.

In my opinion one of reasons BTC crash started is Jeff Berwick openly talking about problems BTC have (fees & slow operating). Just after he released his show Anarchast where he talked with someone from Bitcoin Cash, BTC gone rapidly down and BCC up 40%

This is very clear that whales are playing with the market,, but I believe BTC will not be less than $10k.
If ever it touches $10k It will rise more and touch at least $25k at the beginning of the year,,
some Christmas magic will be there besides the new year will bring something new for sure

What I really expect it's a rise of steem price.

I agree with you..but i won't call it xmas magic.....although apart from the manipulation u would expect a massive withdrawal this xmass plus a massive reinvestment in the new year period...maybe not massive per say...

Thinking there is considerable incentive for earlier investors to wait until after 12/31/17 to take profits due to the new tax laws. Maybe another dip coming in early 2018?

Correct, they are manipulating the markit, once they have enough BTC they will be playing the same game as they do with fiat markets. So everyone hold on tight to your BTC. If you don't have one then try to get to atleast one BTC. There is a chance now with these dips to get cheap BTC. But you need liquidity up your sleeve because they will be playing with whole crypto market and will make it very hard for your fiat currency to get to exchange during that window. Happy festive season.

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That are very fair points, the market is unregulated so its possible to be able kind of schemes that affect the price of cryptocurrency. Bitcoin going down pretty much affects all the others coins, but i'm sure there will be rebound and prices will rise up to levels of yesterday.

I am also a victim of this case. I loss pretty much

Basically the same process that has been used on the gold market for years.
Buy the market up, Sell off.
Sell market down, buy up. (take a little thinking to understand this one! Making money whilst driving a market downwards.)
But manipulation of any market is easy if you have 'enough'
The art is spotting the movements, riding the waves & earning.
Difficult / sad part is when "mum & dad" jump in uneducated. (read DOTCOM boom)

It's clear that someone it's traying to manipulate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general.

You seem to be spot on with the whales and how they pump and dump.

The same as they do on the actual market! Graphs are for suckers!

Thanks for the great analysis. In IMO this is closer to the truth and explains a lot.

Very interesting, never thought about it that way. I really hope this isn't the case, it will centralize Bitcoin if it was like that.

This drop was due to women not beliving in Crypto so men withdrew to prove and deliver some gifts :D

Haha nice, wish I was one of those men..

Coinbase was absolutely ridiculous about their release of BCH

very good your brother publication

There's manipulation in all markets: forex, stocks, bonds and now cryptocurrencies. As small retail traders, the best we can do is always be prepared. Have a plan before you invest. Some questions that all investors should ask themselves before buying any cryptocurrency.

  1. What is your investment timeframe? 1 month, 1 year, 5 years, 10 years?
  2. If you do buy a crypto at a certain price and you believe that it's going to go up, don't buy all at once. Set a target (e.g. I want to accumulate 1 Ether) and buy small amounts (say 0.2 ETH). If the price goes down, see whether you want to accumulate again (add another 0.2 ETH). In this way, you'll eventually accumulate what you want (1 ETH) at a lower average price than if you invested a lump sum all at once. In fact, if you do this, you're actually following the big boys.
  3. If you do accumulate enough and the price goes to the Moon, consider selling enough to recoup your original investment. Then leave the rest to continue. This step is optional.
    As the saying goes "if you can't beat them, join them!". Trade with the big boys and enjoy the profits!

I think that will there were some events around the market downfall, this was all orchestrated by speculators. They drove the price up at a level they would have big gains than they started to sell. Of course the sold also with dropping prices but up until one threshold... But the funny thing that they just initiated the movement, the market kept the trend, the investors panicked, they started to sell, the proce dropped higher and now the speculators started buying again but keeping the price as low as they can.
Thus, while they win big, they fill up back their cryptos balances and can repeat this at another time.

Btc has crashed down and bcc is growing by 40%...
But btc has crashed for a short time, recovery is soon...

Solid opinion. A little nerve wrecking to think I am playing against these large asset figures.

Bitcoin had lost nearly 25% of its value over the last 24 hours. And the price of most major "altcoins" fell even further, with losses ranging from 19 to 35%.

We remember that Bitcoin could not hold long the threshold of $ 20,000 - a threshold it could have exceeded last Sunday, the space of a few hours.
Futures contracts offered by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, which allow institutional investors to speculate on Bitcoin, also recorded a sharp decline. They traded between $ 13,520 and $ 13,570, while their courses had exceeded $ 20,000 when they arrived on the night of Sunday to Monday.

Hey @jrcornel

I think Bitcoin holds lot of money and can't be manipulated. Other coins can easily manipulated because the market capitalization is not big as Bitcoin.

I see one possibility, these people have invested lot of money in Bitcoin and when people started to invest in Bitcoin they started to invest in other altcoins which help them create a psychology of FOMO among people and when people started to investing in Bitcoin and other altcoins they just dump all cryptocurrencies.

It's just my assumption and I still believe Bitcoin can grow more. Do you still believe in crypto currencies?

Bitcoin is just like a pinball machine. The ball bounces around, goes up, sideways, set off lights and gives you bonus points. In the end however the ball is gone and the game is over!

@jrcorney i think this is an inside trading activities and a huge manipulation...here is an articule i wrote on this....
..https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@kingjrn/coinbase-and-whales-manipulating-cryptocurrencies-or-part-of-this-is-the-reason-for-the-price-fall-of-bitcoin

time to get some more people its christmas sale but choose wisely

Exactly how many players are we talking about and rough how many bitcoin token are thet supposed to have? And how do this reflect to high jump of bitcoin cash and recently there have been massive drop in cryptocurrency.

"I can't say for sure that this is what is happening, but to be honest, I would be surprised if something like this wasn't happening."

You have said it all Sire!

Very interesting article

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I think it's also because most of the governments are against decentralised currency, its been controlled by them as well.

Some manipulation could certainly be involved, but I think a good part of the drop was the institutional investors getting out ahead of the Christmas/New Year holidays. With Bitcoin being so volatile I'm sure they had no interest in holding during a time when no one would be in the office to unload if something happened. So, going flat ahead of the holidays and banking profits.

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I agree though I think also that when Buffet said yesterday regarding BTC that it wouldn't end well, it no doubt had an effect with major players albeit at least in short term.

It is for the time being it will really raise again let's hope for the best

Definitely one of the causes is that .... The other is trusting too much the crypto markets ... I was feeling that the bitcoin will fall and never reach 20k ... Beeing to valuable it will be hunted for sure.... Lucky me I got out my little amount in time . Btw , thanks for the information, brother . Cheers !

HODL

I think you're absolutely correct, but you're also only seeing half of the story. Now that Big Money is part of the game and they can purchase short contracts through CME, they get to profit on both sides of the market. I ran through the math and wrote up an example of this today so that people can understand just exactly what happened.

Good to read your post. I do see too to many ‘coincidences’ occur tohether. What bothers me most is that changement can move so fast in crypto markets and you stumble puin technical limitations of capacity of blockchain transfer speed and of coinbase for cashing in and out. It seems that Some people are able to Play themarkets faster

Exactly! It is Wall Street and futures contracts. Just my 2 cent opinion.

Hey, great article! I've also written one on the topic, except that I was more direct in naming Roger Ver for pumping his own altcoin while announcing that he's selling his BTC. And I also think that the rise of Ripple has determined many Bitcoin holders to switch to the coin that rose from $0.8 to $1.2 in less than one day, while all the other cryptos were plummeting.

In the end, it might have been a sum of factors and the panic sell actions of those who were watching how their profits were going away. Personally, I took advantage of the situation and bought one discounted Litecoin at $260 (I know, I should have waited a little more, but it was just so tempting!). Christmas sale, yay!

I think there is some validity to your point about collusion. In the world of trading, there have been too many examples of these types of sinister activities (JP Morgan's Blue Whale, Libor Fixing scandal, currency manipulation, etc). And it's always at the expense of the masses. Unfortunately, the only counter point is the use of regulation, which would put the whole world of Bitcoin and the broader Cryptocurrencies under more scrutiny. Although initially unwelcomed, I think regulation could help "bring to justice" some of these events. Otherwise, we just have to suck it up...and deal with it.

I completely agree with you on the potential need for more regulation. The crypto investors that are here for the potential to avoid the government intervention will definitely not welcome it, but for this new asset class to become a mainstream investment tool it is needed. It will provide more legitimacy as well in my opinion.

does north korea got anything to do with this?

I love reading your blog, I love it very important blogs for Bitcoin users

You have studied the market pretty well, yeah that is making sense.. manipulation by big players...

JP Morgan did that FUD and buy the dip on fibo 61.8% retract last time, whereby newbie were seing their investment freshly made is floating on red ocean...

Myself looking at previous dip and gain, care less this time and steem on, working my way to accumulate steem as much as possible before the hurricane of steem exploded to wide market... :)

I agree on the point that price manipulation has an effect on the drop of bitcoin prices besides the hacking and stealing of 1/5 of the exchanges and speculations.

It’s just a combination of everything. I’m sure they’re are a handful of whales out there scheming but my guess is that there were a bunch of stop loss orders that got set off by the bcc sale.

You are the best @jrcornel

The price down was long coming and we expected this, but never thought this much drop in a short period. But this will be temporally the best thing is to HOLD.
great post @jrcornel
Cheers!

Great post. I really enjoy reading your posts as I find them very informative. Thanks for posting.

up and down up and down
People you have to wake up and start fighting for usability of bitcoin.
Without that it is going to disappear

No offense, but are you kidding, happy to give you my wallet address if you don't know where/how to use your BTC (I am sure you got none)🙃.

Thanks for sharing the knowledge and your view on it!

In the meantime - focus on doing what you love and loving what you do. One way or another - it is going to pay off.

Peace, Love, Gratitude!

I think someone gave Sophia some Bitcoin, and now this Saudi AI and her friends are breaking the market. Yes, the flip trades between Bitcoin and altcoins has been going on for weeks (hyper-inflation), followed by the expected sell-off (hyper-deflation) when markets were deliriously high. There were several waves of sell-offs, and it hasn't finished yet. There will be yet more red on the charts.

This market will get reflated before year's end, so hold tight onto your Litecoin, or whatever, and ride out the volatility.

Rinse and repeat buddy :). Agree with you completely. Normal people dont realize how easy these sort of things are. I also believe big gov. And central banks have had there hands wet in crypto for years. Plotting how they can maintain power. Ty for another great article, cheers.

I think the price will go up bitcoin back
Thank you for sharing this information @jrcornel

Thank you for providing information about the bitcoin @jrcornel

There had been minor corrections along the way, in both September and November, but nothing really significant since August.

nice article bud, yes totally agree with you! Following!!

Very good analysis,

I think it just the normal way bit coin goes up and comes down but in the end it with comes up even better

Yes, I think manipulation is the main reason

That makes sense. Thanks @jrcornel for this analysis. I believe the drop will continue till it tests the support level at which it will start rising again. My expectation for this support level is to be at around $10,000.

This is just great, decided to get into it while it was cheap and while waiting for my account to get verified the price started climbing again.. Yay South Africa.

Why would they wanna manipulate the price to drop? So that they can buy more? Well as long as it would eventually go up

Great Insight. Do you think this is also an attempt to get that 51% to further manipulate Bitcoin?

I think I would be more concerned if we weren't seeing any price resistance and some flash crashes as it has still been a phenomenal year with very few drops little pause at 6k and then at 12k but always bounced back within a few days if not hours

nice insight once more @jcornel
i did mention in my latest post of similar issues with those who may be manipulating the market and profiting from fuders and advised folks to hodl and buy up! i think it may be possible many are doing such. thanks for the info

Thanks. Very informative.

Due to some negative development

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It's fallacy to think that the Banksters aren't hiring people to create Whales, or pods of Whales in addition to using robotics. Manipulation? Entirely possible when you have enormous financial resources. Greetings!

twas the night before Christmas... only a NEM is stirring.

This what caused it

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Or may be this

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If what you say is true (that there are many bitcoins in few investors) turns this cryptocurrency into a more fragile than we thought, so I think the same system has made a correction (the price got lower so that several of those investors sell and so the bitcoins are distributed better in more people).

Good points @jrcorneI, think people need to look at different coins and see which ones add value in some way i.e. steemit instead of just 'get rich quick schemes' where its mostly speculation. I'll definitely be HODLing my steemit dollars!

With the recent big run of Bitcoin, it's drawn in a lot of mainstream media attention, and therefore a lot of new money. The thing with new money is that it's often invested without any form of research being carried out. That makes it very easy for the old-timers to manipulate these new hands into behaving how they want them to behave. A domino effect of this is seen in panic selling.

Still, I think this correction is due, and it will be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks.

I see this as the biggest problem that all cryptos have.There is nothing to stop this kind of market manipulation from happening over and over again.Every time it happens more every day people get burned by it and then they want nothing to do with cryptocurrencies.

So the solution is....HODL. Don't be dumb enough to let fear take over. They're shaking out weak hands, so don't have weak hands. DOn't look at coinmarketcap for the next 6 months if you have to. Then open it up again later next year and be pleasantly surprised.

It reminds me of the manipulation of silver and gold that have been occurring for ages. The problem is what can small-time bitcoin buyers do but speculate.

I totally beleive this 😀