Comments about bitcoin by the JPM chief created a storm of criticism about his “extreme” views, in which he implied that that it is only of interest to criminals. It is unlikely that we will get a full retraction of his words, but the following may represent some softening of his stance.
(Those who read this far and who would like to receive an upvote from me should include the word “hodl” in their comments and comment intelligently.)
So far he has not changed his stance. Maybe he will do so in the coming months. What would happen to the price of bitcoin? Let’s imagine he said the following:
“I must admit that I have come in for a lot of stick from those who are invested in bitcoin, and similar digital assets. I was truly astonished by the number of comments and the strength of opposition to my words. I have an open mind, and I am willing to be challenged, and debate topics where I could be wrong. I am not stubborn, or intractable. I am willing to listen to the opinions of others, even if I don’t agree with them.
In the light of the reaction to my comments, I have taken the opportunity to learn more about bitcoin, in particular, and its pioneering role in the creation of the blockchain. The blockchain is something that we here at JPM are very interested in. It represents not only challenges, but also many opportunities.
Having looked into it and learned alot more, I can see that there are many specific legal uses. I accept that anything which has a utility, is not worthless, and I withdraw the comments I made implying that. Nevertheless, as with cash - bank notes, and bank balances, there are also potential criminal uses. We need to ensure that regulations are in place to keep out these criminal elements.
As far as my warnings to investors are concerned, I stand by my words. The price of bitcoin has been incredibly volatile. More volatile than any other asset I know of. Investors can lose heavily within minutes and certainly in days.
It is not an appropriate asset for most people. However each person should have a free choice how to spend their money. There are many things that people choose to spend money on, of which others may dissaprove. That is not a reason to make such activities illegal. I have never suggested that bitcoin should be banned. America is a free country, and we want to remain free.
I don’t dissaprove of those who choose to invest their own money in bitcoin, and that includes our staff. We, nevertheless, have codes of conduct which must be adhered to. This is to ensure that those who work for us have integrity and and do not find themselves in conflict of interest situations, nor find themselves in financial difficulties due to inappropriate speculation. Those who work in certain areas, particularly trading, have particular rules regarding their personal investments, that must be adhered to in order to avoid potential conflict of interest situations. These rules cover all forms of investing, including investing in bitcoin. I expect these rules to be followed.
As for risk warnings, we need to ensure that these are not only given, but also heard, by those who want to invest in bitcoin or other digital assets.
Clearly there is a lot of speculation in this area at the moment - just as there was in the 1990s with the dot-com companies. I would like to remind investors that it was a bubble which burst in early 2000, and that most of the dot-com companies no longer exist. Those who choose to invest, do so at their peril. A few may find the equivalent of the next Amazon, most will not. There is no certainty that bitcoin, nor any other digital asset, will live up to the dreams of those who are investing now. It is possible. It is more likely that some newer more exciting fad will take its place and people will lose money. History is on my side for that.
In closing, I would also like to withdraw any comment I made suggesting that bitcoin is a “fraud”. Bitcoin may be a very specultive investment, but there is nothing to suggest that it, or the majority of the people involved in it are frauds. There are many other digital currecies and tokens out there, which ARE obvious frauds. Investors need to be particularly wary of the many ICOs, most of which are not an investment, but rather a contribution or gift to the profit and loss of the company. At best, they aren’t worth the digital paper they are are printed on, and they are, in many cases, scams, frauds, or pump-and-dump schemes.
Thank you for your time, ladies and gentlemen. I will not be making any more comments on bitcoin, nor answering any questions on the subject.”
As mentioned above, this is not an actual speech by him. What I would like to ask is this: “How would the world react if he said this, and what would happen to the bitcoin price?”
I always like to think its a very positive thing when big bankers and politicians talk ill about Bitcoin, mostly because I believe they talk bad about it because they 1. do not understand it, and 2. Are afraid of the changes that will come from it and they will lose their power.
Bit if Mr. Dimon did say something to that effect, i do believe that the price of bitcoin would still increase as some people that are hesitant and believe the words of these con-men would then start to grab some from themselves.
But to the likes of Mr. Dimon and his ilk I say, don't let the hodl hit you on the way out.
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Actually I don't believe there is any hidden conspiracy by him or JPM.
I think his words were genuine words said on the spur of the moment without really having looked into it.
Most people pretty much have the same attitude, i.e. the 799 out of 800 who don't hold any would say:
"Yeah, I've heard of bitcoin. I don't really understand it, I don't really trust it. Isn't it part of that Silk-road thing? I heard you have to deal with some kind of mountain in Japan called "Gox" or something like that which can't be trusted. It's not for me"
His words were a typical reaction and we can't blame him for expressing an opinion. He's almost the head of the financial world and supposed to know everything about everything financial. The question caught him off-guard, and he had to pretend to answer it knowledgeably.
After the media reaction he now knows a lot more. I think his script-writer is already studying my text as we speak. Can he recover what was said previously? Yes, I think he can. The financial world would stand up an cheer! It would say "A man who admits when he is wrong, is a man to be trusted. A man of integrity."
If he does not do it, it will hang around his shoulders for the rest of his life and become part of his epitaph.
Message to Jamie Dimon's speech-writer:
For a very small fee, (payable only in bitcoin), you are welcome to use my text above.
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There is no denying the already proven success of Bitcoin. The reason it is growing is because people, myself included, do not give a HODL, about what Jaime Dimon says.
My instincts tell me that he says what he has to say in and for the public; yet says the opposite in private. The line in the sand has been drawn, and there is no other way.
In a rudimentary way, Bitcoin can be considered as bartering, and bartering is not against the law. Even people who gamble away their bartered income have the right to do so. Cryptocurrencies are also helping to rescue the ailing gaming industry.
Therefore, technically, Bitcoin sellers, buyers, and users are not committing any crime. And, the other hurdles it must cross in order to be considered actual currency may or may not come. In any event, we live in the now, and right now cryptocurrencies are proving to be great investments.
Also, thank you for a well written, thought-provoking hypothetical Jaime Dimon speech.
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I agree. Bitcoin is here to stay. Today’s announcement that it will trade on mainstream markets, i.e the CME will start futures trading, will bring in millions of new investors to bitcoin through the futures, options and ETFs - which will invest in bitcoin futures as an underlying asset.
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Wow, you actually made up a speech for him. I'm sure he has some major influences and that would definitely help out bitcoin but there are more influential people who are actually for it like Bill Gates and Mark Cuban which I believe helps people in their beliefs on it also. I do think that if he stated that he was more open minded and not straight up say it's a fraud, it would help his case and open up a conversation for some better dialogue to see where his mind is at and maybe he might some valid points that people are willing to listen to. But that's just my opinion o and "hodl" =]
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Something like this would shoot the BTC price to the moon despite it being the most expensive and slowest currency to use. I'd really love to see a part where he talks about integrity etc juxtaposed with the events leading up to and events after the 2008 crash.
Governments are not using dot-com companies to spy on us. But unlike the surveillance valley, the blockchain "Can't be Evil" if it was designed that way. Only evil we'd see from is a Fedcoin. We should simply make non-gov cryptos too popular to be shut down. That's what happened with cannabis.
Ultimately I view BTC as more of a Minimum Viable Product like the old web browsers or PDAs which had a touch screen you poke with a stick. So I'd say HODL alt-coins as they are the future. My favorite currencies are Dash, NEM and PIVX. If I had to HODL that'd be PIVX as it has tiny market cap compared to Dash and it's PoS, so you can stake it.
The other big one is EOS. I could see it going over $10 in 12 months and eventually even $100. At the current price SONM, WTC, Monaco, Metaverse can also be great HODL coins. NEO is pretty undervalued too. If China opens up ICOs it'd be huge. I mean HUGE!
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hi sweetheart.
hodl
well, if what he said is true, again the words of JPM chief have some kind of meaning , any criminals now can laundry their dirty money anonymously from this wallet to that wallet under protection of the block chain.
many big financial leaders pointed out this fact, but non bounced back and I do not think that he will retreat and retract what he said....
but if he is really not saying these comments afterwards, it is a world of propoganda and marketing, we call it is the saes the opposite eye catch, meaning, i want to increase my sales on one object, so i begin making huge opposite non correct feedback about my object by some other "friends" while after few days or a certain period, I begin to increase my marketing campain against them and they will rduce the opposite noise so the buyers will be attracted more , yea this obect opposing team could not win the battle so it is a good product and they begin to buy iit like hell crazy
bitcoin has so many roumers, and many facts too.
I do not what is so ever said on marketing till i see the price chart and where the price action is taking this coin.
do not ever enevr believe what you read unless it is truly authorised by legal wellknown firm
ALWAYS SELL THE NEWS AND THEN BY THE ROUMERS
CHEERS LOVE
SAMER
RED-ROSE
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Honestly, I think that the big bankers are secretly hoarding a ton of BTC while knocking on it. Everybody wants in cheap.
I see it like this. Jamie Dimon has nothing to gain by publicly supporting bitcoin, it is almost entirely an economy that is out of his hands. However, he has the ability to have personal gain by dropping the price and getting into bitcoin at a cheaper price.
Tldr;
HODL and then HODL more.
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You nailed it! I can confirm that I have heard from multiple reliable sources that investment advisors in banks and all other firms are prohibited from recommending it to clients, yet they are buying like crazy. The Chief Investment Officer of one wealth management bank told me that the perfect portfolio for him is 20% bitcoin and 80% stocks. As for the 20% he can't recommend it to the bank, investment managers nor clients.
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Cool post, ty for sharing swissclive.
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nice post, thanks for sharing
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@black35 : This comment is for your benefit so you don't find others downvoting or flagging you.
I have noticed that you have made a number of very short comments on other blogs, which are similar in style to the one above. They don’t really add anything to the discussion of the topic.
Please help keep Steemit free of spam posts.
If you like a post, it is generally sufficient to upvote it unless you want to join in the debate.
You did not upvote my post.
You did not read my post, otherwise you would have included the “magic” word, which could have earned you several dollars from me.
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ok sir...thanks for your advice..
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Everyones excited as the countdown has begun.. looking eagerly for very good outcomes...good wishes to you.. and everyone..
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@tusharvasave. You would have earned several dollars if you would have taken the time to read as far as the second paragraph of my post. You made exactly the same comment, word for word on the last 20 blogs you commented on. Please read the comments above about spam posts.
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not earned, but i just comment i like to comment.
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Jamie Dimon... That's a disinfo troll right?
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