Really thoughtful approach to dealing with the flaws on this implementation of socialized medicine. This continues to be a raging debate here in the states and looking at it in other places is rarely brought up in public debate. The usual argument for it is that if you aren't for it, you are supporting or at least complicit in the suffering of others. What you point out expressed the valuable point that these systems, while appearing to help people and are no cost when you go to use it, do incur significant financial burden and do not offer care that people would otherwise be satisfied receiving if they were voluntarily paying for it and knew exactly how is going to the NHS. I lack the experience of living with it, but Ben Shapiro phrased it really well. He said that socialized medicine can be cheap, universal, or quality. You can only pick 2. For those who live in a country with government healthcare, are your experiences in line with that?
RE: Classical Liberalism 101: Take 1 -- Healthcare in the UK
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You made several good points here, particularly about only being able to pick two out of the three possibilities mentioned. And that idea that we are complicit in the suffering of others is simply ludicrous -- voluntary assistance is just that ... voluntary. There is no virtue in a moral vacuum.
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thanks man. On a bit of a tangent there is a quote from Penn Jillette that sums up my view of "compulsory compassion" very well:
"It’s amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness.
People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered, and if we’re compassionate we’ll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint."
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This quote deserves to be better known than it already is! It also reminds me of good old Ben Franklin: "I am for doing good to the poor, but ... I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer."
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I mean the old "teach a man to fish" adage is as old as it is accurate. Shame that people in the name of doing good, end up enacting policies that actively make the problems worse.
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If they could only appreciate the irony, but it seems the Cognitive Dissonance is too strong with them ;)
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2017 tier double think man. Its reached new levels
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Funny, I was going to say "double-think" ;) !!!
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its pretty applicable
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