If Not @ned, Who Should Be The Face Of STEEM? Steem Going Global!!!steemCreated with Sketch.

in busy •  6 years ago  (edited)

My article yesterday stimulated a number of different conversations about the subject of @ned being the face of STEEM, Obviously, for those who read it, I do not believe it is healthy for us to move in that direction.

That said, if not @ned, then who should be the face of STEEM?

To paraphrase the subtle James Carville, "It's the apps dummy".

There are a few things happening that are really giving me even more confidence in my commitment to this ecosystem. I can see the formation of the next step starting to take place. This will really uplift this entire blockchain. At the core of this are many of the applications we use on a daily basis.

It is easy to talk about a big vision, it is something else to back it up. That is why I love those applications that keep innovating and adding. I have no problem with a scaled down application at introduction but, if it is still that way 6 months later, toss it aside. To me, that does not reflect a committed development team.

There was a post the other day that I missed by @steemhunt. I know I wrote about them yesterday afternoon and I usually do not follow the same application up. However, the announcement they had really touched upon some major things.

The main message was that they are starting a witness node and are looking for votes. In the next couple days I will write up my views on that and the experiences I had with that application and the team behind it. For now, I want to concentrate upon some of the plans they have.

One thing that caught my attention is that they experienced a 800% increase in users the last two months now topping 72K MAU. That is an impressive figure for an application that is less than 6 months old.

Even more importantly, and a view I agree with, is this:

Now it is time to focus more on creating/maintaining the Steem blockchain to become more scalable and user-friendly based on the standpoint of Steem dApps.

A lot of this has to do with the sign up process that they are taking very seriously.

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They already claimed over 1,100 accounts since the Resource Credit system was implement. This is important to focus upon because they get 5,000K unique visitors from outside Steem a day. Converting them to Steemians is a prime-time goal.

Another point driven home is that @steemhunt feels that it is now time for companies to focus upon being the driver behind the growth. Individuals can only do so much. The activities of a company can provide a much greater return than that of individuals. Hence, @steemhunt is seeking to view things on a global scale.

One of the main things that needs to be done is to attract users who are not necessarily crypto-enthusiasts. @ned alluded to the same thing in one of his comments the other day. To do this, ease-of-use had to be addressed.

Here is what was said about that:

Our aim is to develop 1) a new user sign-up system that directly converts generic outside users to Steem app users, 2) a user-friendly on-boarding interface that makes it easy to understand the Steem community and token economy, and 3) pipelines that transfer them from one Steem dApp to another.

Full article:

https://steemit.com/witness/@steemhunt/steemhunt-witness-focus-on-company-wide-steem-value-stream-and-scalable-dapp-experiences

I am glad to see @steemhunt taking this initiative but they are far from the only ones.

@mcfarhat of @actifit is working on taking his application and integrating it into Fitbit. This accesses a potential market of 25M people who are using that exercise/fitness tracker on a regular basis. The application also just changed their payout system using a variety of factors which encourage more interaction by the users.

https://busy.org/@actifit/announcing-actifit-v2-reward-system-activity-content-engagement-user-ranks-delegation-moderation-and-more

I was told of a project that is being developed which is going to reach outside the Steem ecosystem and give content creators, professional ones, the ability to access the Steem blockchain. Without going into details, from the bit of information I have, it seems like a great way to get Steem in front of some heavy hitters.

Here is another account that is loading up on the claimed accounts. @blocktrades also crossed the 1,000 level with more, I am sure being added each day.

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Of course, it only makes sense since an exchange would want to be able to onboard users. What I like about this is that people who end up on an exchange tend not to be people who are just kicking tires or ended up on a Steem application through a link. If one is on @blocktrades, there is a reason for it.

These are exactly the type of people Steem needs to attract.

My point here is the face of STEEM is starting to form.

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It is not any one individual but the applications that are becoming the driving force. Sometimes the best "face" to put forward is the product itself. In addition to the ones already mentioned, we have @dtube, @dlike, @busy, @steempeak, @vimm, @steemmonsters, and a host of other applications. In other words, we have a lot to offer.

Certainly, the applications will have their own teams or individuals out promoting their platforms. That is what is suppose to happen. We will get to the point, and soon I believe, where Steem is secondary. The entire blockchain concept is going to matter little to the masses.

Do you think they care about TCP/IP or SMTP? Do you think they are concerned how packets are routed or data stored? If not, why would they care about blockchain?

In my opinion, they are not going to.

What they will care about is d.tube, steemhunt, actifit, steemmonsters, busy, steempeak, and any of the other applications that captures one's fancy.

And this, I believe, is what we want to put forward.

2018 was a fine year for Steem. We saw a lot of development which is evident in many of the applications. Let us allow the true stars to shine through.

"It's the apps dummy".

They are what will allow a global reach to the masses.


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Even with look alike platforms like steemit out there, Steem has still stayed on top of its game and the different Dapp is truly helping the Ecosystem. There is still some Dapp like Steepshoot and Dlike which have gotten the necessary attention. I believe when SMT finally roll out, everything will be in place

Agree with the DApps being the key but so are we as the community! We can also move masses as we produce our content and engage with each other. We can also claim accounts for future use. Thanks to @abh12345 post yesterday, I was easily able to claim my first account. Even though it used 70% of my RC I have not been impacted in any way to transact or engage. I could envision an ecosystem where I could eventually bring friends and family into with these accounts and provide some RC delegation tonsupport their onboarding; not by promising them the riches of crypto but the gift of community! I have not been this excited for Steem since beginning whichbis great!

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Fixed. Thank you.

we don't see the price steem still working on the steemit platform

Do you know if these new accounts on apps are reflected in @arcange stats? His numbers for redfish and minnows are dismal. But are they just the people who sign up on steemit? Right now, his reports show approx 1M deadfish and 100k in live ones, but I do not know if that is the complete picture.

No, I do not believe they are reflected because they are not accounts set up per se at this moment. The applications are using their daily resource credits to reserve the accounts. Hence, they apps themselves are able to sign people up one they add that feature to their sites.

I know @actifit is looking at adding in that in the next week or so. I am sure the others will be following.

My intuition tells me the retention rate among the users who sign up via the apps will be greater since the person was actually interested in something that brought them to the app.

We will see how it all unfolds over the next 6 months.

So when these apps start adding people, will they show over there? I look at these reports weekly or so and I am wondering about this new aspect.

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As @taskmaster4450 explained, this is currently account "reservation".
As soon as the account are effectively created on the blockchain, they will appear in my stats.

Ah! OK thank you. I hope we see them soon :)

Steemit as a content platform has kind of reached its limit, but dApps could be the savior (and will, I guess). I am supporting quite some dApps on STEEM, but one has to admit that EOS is already a few steps ahead. I truly hope both can co-exist and be of value.

EOS and Steem are two totally different systems.

Steem is specialized while EOS is a general blockchain. There are certain things that EOS has which cater to a different audience.

Steem has the content/reward system. That is the essence of Steem and something that is continually fine tuned. All apps that end up on here tap into that core concept.

Maybe that is the biggest issue with Steem. On EOS, you can easily create a system similar to Steemit (see Trybe.one), which is also rewarding content. But then again, you can also realize all the dApps that are built on Steemit within the EOS ecosystem without the need of posting them to a network that wasn’t designed for that initially. While I do see the value of Steemit as a social network, as a developer, I am heading more towards the EOS ecosystem in the mid/long term. I am, however, curious how SMTs will work out here on Steemit as well.

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Integration into existing user bases would be phenomenal for growth, although perhaps skew the platform a bit whilst the dust settled...

If fitbit users were brought on board each with a Steem account, then there would be enough of those people who would say, why not, let's try my hand at one of the other dapps that Steem offers... Maybe blogging, maybe photography, maybe review writing... The potential is kind blowing, and we just need a couple of lucky collaborations!

That is my view @bengy how things will work.

One of the biggest advantages is that if you sign up for one application, you sign up for them all. The same username and key works. Getting one into the ecosystem means there is a good chance that individual will find something else of interest.

It is here where collaboration between the applications can actually help all involved.

I agree fully... Steem is starting (and needs to) to grow beyond the original blogging platform! Not everyone writes or wants to set aside the time to write. But if it is integrated into what you are doing already... we will have a winner!

We are moving far away from Steemit and moving forward to a lot of different DAPPS. This ecosystem is moving in the same direction of EOS.

Why against ned

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I really like what @steemhunt is doing, I need to support them more.
Also thanks for the write up, @tipu upvote this post for 5 sbd

Thank you kindly for that @cardboard.

It is greatly appreciated. I am glad you found my article worthy.

At this point I just hope all the apps get the sign up feature up and running soon. That will be very important to keep people interested and engaging in a app they like to be and spend time there. Having platforms like Dtube and Steepshot getting it running it would be essential for the growth of the community I think. Because I believe people now find them but they don't understand why they need to register somewhere else to get access to it. 😉 Let's hope that everyone is working hard to get that up and running

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Great information. Thanks for sharing.

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Hi @taskmaster4450,

For your information, @share2steem v1 is about to be released and we target not less than 3 billion social media accounts (instagram, twitter, youtube) who would be able to cross-post their social stuff to steemit and make few bucks easily, posting from their favourite social apps.

We made lots of improvements since Steemigram, and we are convinced people will get in quickly.

That is very exciting @sebbbl. I am looking forward to see how your project progresses. Since I am not much for those networks, I can't apply @share2steem. I do love the idea that something is created that will target 3B accounts. You hit up the biggest social networking sites.

I only hope that the RC situation is straightened out and does not delay your growth.

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That is our main concern, since we hope we are able in a near future to be able to claim accounts as well, to offer a full package to new users. We also hope transactions will cost less RC in the future, because situation is not easy for newcomers.

V1 will be released in 2-3 days if everything is fine, we hope the project will catch more people than in beta version, as we worked very hard to get a professional looking tool.

I just did a post about your application for you. I hope I captured the essence of what you are doing with it.

I understand why people would like somebody as representative. That makes it more real. But is it necessary?
Wikipedia for example mostly stands on its own feet as a wonderful ressource because of the enormous value it creates.

Great point. I didn't think of that one but it does show a collaborative community that arose without an out front leader.

Hi @taskmaster4450

I read most of your work, tend to agree, and then have nothing to add :)

The many faces of Steem - whichever dapps make it to the top will suit us all very nicely indeed.

Thanks @abh12345.

We are all going to benefit from all that is happening. Thing have to be worked through, without a doubt. There are some technical problems along with societal ones on here. Yet, over time, we will resolve them and move the ecosystem forward.

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I hope so, and side with your assessment - just a matter of sticking with it :)

I love all this competition and move towards creating something. I love that SMT's are something that can actually become greater than steemit it self. But as for your first question, I still think this ship needs a captain and I don't see anyone else ready to take the helm quite yet

we may not be able to claim lots of free accounts at the moment but at @steempeak we're looking to start solving the onboarding issues, it's gonna take some hard work but i'm excited about it.

Well I am looking forward to what you all are doing to solve the issues @jarvie.

It is exciting to see so many different teams working on different solutions.

well if you ever have any suggestions you'd like to see happen we're all ears. We have a great plan but of course it can always be even better right?

I feel like all the previous comments are missing the most important point.... do all these apps have as good hair as Ned?

Do they? Really?

No that Clooney is going gray, it is a tough one.

Not too many heads of hair to compete with @ned.

is Ned pondering stepping aside? what's up? ty

Why do you ask if he is pondering stepping aside?

Did you hear something?

nah, i was just trying to follow the convo here without really reading it. are people down on Ned? i remember i thought a lot of his posts were kinda lame and unleaderlike last spring, last time i checked , ty

I do not believe they are down on him...well not anymore than the ones who were before.

The point of this post (and my last one) was the fact that we do not need centralization and @ned to be the face of STEEM. To me, this is a dangerous situation. We need to be thinking decentralization. We are moving toward an app-centric environment.

true... the problem is people are programmed to follow leaders

I think you should be the face of Steem. Your content is fantastic

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Thank you for the compliment and I am glad that you like my content.

There are a lot more worthy people than me but as a advocate for decentralization, I wouldn't put myself out as the face either.

Like the headless horseman, we shall be faceless.

They already claimed over 1,100 accounts since the Resource Credit system was implement. This is important to focus upon because they get 5,000K unique visitors from outside Steem a day. Converting them to Steemians is a prime-time goal.

Do you know if Steemhunt will be delegating SP to those 1,100 accounts so the users can interact on STEEM? HF20 is supposed to allow dapps to create accounts, but as exemplified here, only accounts created by Steemit Inc will have SP delegation. In the current scheme of things, the RCs allocated to a claimed account is not enough for user interaction.

I don't know their plans.

In one of the comments, it was mentioned that @steempeak is working on something to address that issue.

I did read RC delegation is currently in the works. Dapps and communities would soon be able to delegate RCs into a pool for the community to draw from. It should resolve the issue, but account creation in its current state is simply not feasible to onboard new users.

Thanks for advising about steempeak.

Well done @taskmaster4450 , I totally agree!A definite upvote and resteem!👍✌💕👌

There's no doubt that the Dapps must be the driving force behind Steem for it to succeed.

I made an image the other day of what I think the ideal Steemit interface would look like. It is completely focused around the Dapps.

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Without a doubt.

Great mock up. I agree that something like that would be great. A central landing page, if Steemit is going to be that, should promote the apps, at least the bigger ones.

By the way, dfiction? That is a new one on me. What is that?

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Dfiction is all in my imagination at this point. I'd really love for it to come out though. Something similar to Kindle unlimited for smaller authors. Kind of like a testing ground for fiction.

Hey, @taskmaster4450.

CEOs come and go. We see that all the time. At Disney, while the current CEO has been around since 2005 and made some major moves in his day, he's not the face. The characters, the movies, the shows, the merchandise and the theme parks take center stage. So, I'm in full agreement that we shouldn't have anyone individual as the face of STEEM.

I suppose for now the dapps can be what represents STEEM, but as it moves through it's different stages, I'm sure there will be all kinds of 'faces' that could be put on it.

The idea is to think beyond where we are right now, and imagine where ultimately STEEM should be. Then, work to make it happen. That won't be through the efforts of just one individual, but many.

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@ned is steemit inc face not steem blockchain face, then all these platforms doing a great job of promoting steem blockchain (Steemit, Dtube, Dsound, Busy.org, Steemhunt....) every platform has it advantages :)

Steemhunt is good for steem ecosystem, in my opinion. I at first got into it because they have a ton of delegated SP, but the more i got into the more I was impressed with it.

For instance, you can make a lot of hunt tokens the higher your vote. I found myself really spreading my vote around instead of self voting. My curation numbers went way up, and I earned lots of hunt. Other people also vote a lot too so above and beyond the big upvote you can get from steemhunt get people actually willingly give up their votes, and to strangers, voting for same person every day is penalized. It many ways I think it is the way steem should be.

SH also adapts. They used to get people resteeming too much and there were complains, so they switched to s social media sharing, expanding their reach. They are always tweaking the system, actually making it better. The reputation system they use is hard to game. Steemit itself never does anything like that.

Everything that annoys me about steemit (circle jerk voting, cliques, no chance for minnnows etc) all that stuff was dealt with on steemhunt.

We need a Max Headroom type character with Ned's hair?

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