Chess problem 53 / Schachaufgabe 53

jaki01 (74) in chess • 7 years ago (edited)

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Hi chess fans! :)
During the last months you all have proven more than once how skillful you are when it comes to tactics and attacking the opponent's king.
This time however, I want to check your endgame knowledge: you have to decide if black is able to hold a draw or not. What do you think? Move as black! :)

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Hallo Schachfreunde! :)
Während der letzten Monate habt ihr alle mehr als einmal gezeigt, wie taktisch begabt ihr seid und wie erfindungsreich, wenn es darum geht, den gegnerischen König anzugreifen.
Dieses Mal will ich jedoch eure Endspielkenntnisse testen: ihr habt zu entscheiden, ob Schwarz dazu in der Lage ist, ein Remis zu erreichen oder nicht? Was denkt ihr? Scharz ist am Zug! :)

FEN: 8/p1k3p1/P7/8/3K1pp1/8/4B1P1/8 b - - 0 1

Black to move: / Schwarz am Zug:

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juanmi96 (50) · 7 years ago

Hi @jaki01
I think black can draw, let's see:

... f3
gxf3 g3
Ke3 g2
kf2 g1=Q+
Kxg1 later, the White king will eat the pawn of g2 with the help of the bishop and will win

But, on the other hand,

... f3
gxf3 gxf3
Bxf3 Kb6
Be2 g5
Ke5 g4
Kf4 g3
Kxg3 Kc5
Kf4 Kb6
Ke5 Kc5
Ke6 Kc6
Ke6 Kc5 The black king stops the white king and the match is draw. The bishop can't do a lot beacause the black pawn is on a black square.

jaki01 (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

Yes, indeed, the point is to recognize that in this position white cannot win with king, bishop and pawn against king and pawn! You were the first who came up with this idea! :)

srikandi (56) · 5 years ago

Not easy to believe that this really should be a draw!! :)

greatwolf (46) · 7 years ago (edited)

I think the most promising drawing plan is to get rid of the king side pawns and just have the black king camp out between c7 b8 squares. One possible sequence:

f3, ...

regardless of what white does next, that g2 pawn is going away.

..., gxf3
gxf3, Bxf3
Kb6, Bb7
Kc7,

From here black can just give away his g7 pawn somehow. Afterwards have the black king shuffle between c7 and b8. White won't be able to make any progress since black king can't be kicked out of the corner. If white's king ever gets too close like d7, d6, c6 etc. that's stalemate.

jaki01 (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

Like @juanmi96 you had the correct idea that white actually cannot win with king, bishop and pawn against king and pawn in this special position. Well done!

tking77798 (62) · 7 years ago

Hi @jak01. This is a difficult one. At first I figured I would just try to get rid of the two pawns. You can't checkmate with a king and a bishop so that seems the easiest solution to me. However, I can't figure out a guaranteed way to do that. Then I figured that if the black king stayed at b8 it would essentially force a draw. Here is my solution:

...f3
gxf3, gxf3
Bxf3 Kb8

From here, the king will either move to a8 or c8 depending on the position of the bishop. White king will never be able to take the pawn at a7 because the king will block approach by b7 and the pawn blocks approach by b6. White bishop is the wrong color to take the pawn as well.
The white pawn at a6 limits the black king's movement and I can't find a single configuration of white's pieces that will actually checkmate at this point.

jaki01 (74) · 7 years ago

Well done as well, even if @juanmi96 and @greatwolf were a little bit faster.

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iceblue (54) · 7 years ago

Nice and surprising solution! One wouldn't think that Black can hold a draw. But with reduced material and with rookpawns you always have to keep in mind that such things can happen.

dber (66) · 7 years ago (edited)

I am not good at chess (This does not stop me from playing my spouse and losing terribly) - and my ability to think several steps ahead in almost all capacities is substantially limited.

But, I feel like moving the black pawn on F4 to F3 basically ensures a draw.

If the bishop takes your pawn, you take the bishop, white takes the second pawn - then the board is two pawns and a king each, and that seems like draw territory with the right pawns trapped where they are.

If the white pawn takes your pawn, you move the other pawn to g3. That forces the bishop to block g2 to avoid a black queens, which holds the bishop in stasis and effectively turns the board into the two pawns and king each, especially as your king is safe on brown squares.

All the other possible moves by white in response seem like obvious f*#k ups...

Now that I've spilled the guts of my poorly informed guess out into the blockchain forever, I await knowledge of the super obvious thing I'm missing :)

jaki01 (74) · 7 years ago

OK, let's see. You suggest:

... f3
gxf3 g3.
What about if white plays Ke3 (followed by f4, Kf3) now to catch the black pawn? :)

zacherybinx (54) · 7 years ago

If after

....f3
Ke3 then fxe2
Kxe2 then Kb6 is winning a pawn and with it being passed will be easy win for Black.

jaki01 (74) · 7 years ago

No, I mean Ke3 in the end:

... f3
gxf3 g3
Ke3.

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dber (66) · 7 years ago

haha - I totally forgot to even consider the king. I'll show myself out. :)

shivohum2015 (65) · 7 years ago

Its black which is going to win dear @jaki01

I am glad atleast I found a friend who is interested in chess.....

Can you and me play a game in chess24 please if you dont mind

Have a great day.

jaki01 (74) · 7 years ago

No, black has to fight for the draw. Check abov, @juanmi96 has found the solution.

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siswadi (59) · 7 years ago

Difficult to be draw , thats black to be loser

jaki01 (74) · 7 years ago

Black actually can reach a draw: check the solution above by @juanmit96.

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herzaseptian (60) · 7 years ago

A very good game Sir @jaki01, we all agree that the game of chess is a game that is intelligent. Actually I really want to follow the contest to address the problem in a chessboard, but because I was a chess player amateurs so I just learn some comments from some steemian's, and it's very interesting in my opinion. An intelligent article Sir @jaki01, in the future I will contribute. ;)

taillah (64) · 7 years ago

Good post sob.

max1994 (1) · 7 years ago

I likes playing this game

deepak0018 (55) · 7 years ago

i like to play cheese but am not good player .

cutiepie (58) · 7 years ago

looks like we got the moves in comment section

eyelashe (52) · 7 years ago

Nice moves by steem players

sadcasm (50) · 7 years ago

i am not good at chess

wandering (50) · 7 years ago

camel has its chance

madushanka (74) · 7 years ago

I'm also not a chess expert. Have some online contest. It's thinkable game. Need to spend some time. More think easy to win. Thank you @jaki01

goldcoin (66) · 7 years ago

Thanks for your chess article. It is a good . @jaki01
have a great day.

shavishtha (52) · 7 years ago

Wonderful gaming for chess. thanks for sharing

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minoservice (52) · 7 years ago

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lito (51) · 7 years ago

Nice chess problem & hope you got the extract answer as well.

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theguruasia (67) · 7 years ago

@jaki01,
To answer your chess problems I started playing chess at Windows 7 default game category! Still testing my skills and hope one day I could provide you the correct answer!

Cheers~

pardeepkumar (56) · 7 years ago

After many days, great post on chess

drmor (44) · 7 years ago

thanks very good playing

spiritualpower (55) · 7 years ago

Good post for chess lovers

stmit (55) · 7 years ago

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thanks for sharing
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dragonking (57) · 7 years ago

Great chess problem @jaki01. Always providing humans brain from chess.

janvir (4) · 7 years ago

i am a chess fan..i like chess.

votman (51) · 7 years ago

Excellent chess question & hope you will get the extract answer~

resteemia (56) · 7 years ago

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ohicklin (54) · 7 years ago

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jasonmunapasee (75) · 7 years ago

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cityslicker (58) · 7 years ago

no moves left for me

jie28 (56) · 7 years ago

Well in my mind black is going to make a draw it because white is also considering to push black to decide to draw also.

starboye (53) · 7 years ago

i would love to see the moves

blazing (70) · 7 years ago

i am checkmate lol once again

anikearn (65) · 7 years ago

Chess is my favorite game.Me and my friend playing this game.I also playing this game my mobile.It is fantastic game

steemphotography (55) · 7 years ago

take down black

shagorshikder (54) · 7 years ago

chess..the most favorite game...to me..

love it..
thank's for sharing..@jaki01

mywhale (53) · 7 years ago

Hello @jaki01,

Extraordinary good chess problem & nice answers you get for it. Nice post.

brainceo (6) · 7 years ago

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starving (55) · 7 years ago

hmmm let me think

steemwija (58) · 7 years ago

@jaki01 - Nice chess problem Sir.... Sry I have no correct answer for it :(

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birjudanak (64) · 7 years ago

i am not chess expert but can say cant save because king have not strong player left and if that white + one is not wajir then may be can draw it.

shahbazrana (28) · 7 years ago

Hy

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dinisanda (57) · 7 years ago

Hey @jaki01 I'm dont have good knowledge about chess....but I'm try learn how to play chess...I think chess is amazing game for me...
Cheers~~~~

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spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

I'd like to say yes to a hold/draw...

If the opposing queen 4d knocks off the black pawn 4f, it will be countered by the queen7c.

That's for starters...

Peace.

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digitalis (68) · 7 years ago

let me try :) black will draw as long as the white pawn on G is gone.

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ratul8940 (0) · 7 years ago

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