Illuminati - government and freemasons pt 2. United Kingdom!

in conspiracy •  7 years ago  (edited)

I wanted to do this in 2 parts.

That is simply not feasible unless I write a full length book post, I am going to have to divide it by at least 2 countries, the UK first & the USA second, then do a post about the EU and finish with a world post.


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Establishing the grip of Freemasonry/illuminati in the UK.

Is very easy, from Prime minister, to judges - and well beyond, the police are involved as are the royal family, when you have members covering every aspect of society from those categories, do you not run a whole country? I would say yes, you may say no.

The masons society released some documents in 2015, in these documents that covered 200 years up to and including 1923, it showed how far and wide masonry was, here I will list some of the members that document named. And you can see for yourself.

  • Kings Edward VII, Edward VIII and George VI.
  • The Duke of Wellington. (army)
  • Lord Kitchener.
  • Premier Sir Winston Churchill. (prime minister)
  • Rudyard Kipling. (journalist)
  • Oscar Wilde. (poet and playwright.)
  • Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. (author of titles such as Sherlock Holmes)
  • Captain Robert Falcon Scott. (British Royal Navy officer and explorer who led two expeditions to the Antarctic regions)
  • Ernest Shackleton. (explorer)
  • Sir Alexander Fleming (discovered penicillin)
  • Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington.
  • Harry Selfridge. (businessman)
  • Thomas Telford. (master engineer and bridge builder.)
  • Thousands of engineers.
  • More than 5,500 police officers, thousands of military figures, 170 judges, 169 MPs, 16 bishops.

This shows a complete control and domination over - law and order, the military in all forms army and navy, government, Religion, royalty & journalism. what else would you be required to control in the days before tv and radio?. Even entertainment was covered in later years and is now.



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Banking and the federal reserve.


"The extent to which Freemasons wielded power over the British Empire may lead to a re-examination of two centuries of our history."

stated the Daily Mirror in the article I read back then here

It was this article 3 years ago, that made me go in search of more "truth" as even they admit that history has been written by people that want it presented "their way" & not as it really was.

I touched upon the titanic last night, and it holds great significance in history, as there was one man who did not want the non federal federal reserve to exist, he knew it would bring misery and debt to 100's of millions of innocent people, and his name was J.J.Astor, if you read the last post and clicked on the link, you will see why he did not want the fed, and he died whilst on the titanic.
So what does this have to do with anything? I will give you the following quote from the same article.

The Titanic.

The loss of SS Titanic, 14 April 1912: The lifeboats. All that was left of the greatest ship in the world - the lifeboats that carried most of the 705 survivors
Huge influence: The Freemasons were key in the inquiry of SS Titanic.
Freemasons had a huge influence over a controversial inquiry into the Titanic disaster in which more than 1,500 passengers and crew died.
The secret archive shows the judge who presided over the British Wreck Commissioner’s inquiry was a Freemason along with leading investigators and some who escaped censure.

A US investigation blamed the British Board of Trade for lax rules which allowed the Titanic to set off on its maiden voyage in 1912 with just 20 lifeboats for 2,208 people on board.
But the Board of Trade was exonerated by the British inquiry led by Lord Mersey.
Records show the judge was initiated as a Freemason in 1881 at the Northern Bar Lodge in London.
President of the Board of Trade Sydney Buxton was also a long-standing Mason after being initiated in 1888 at Lime-house in East London, where he was local MP.
Two of the inquiry’s five expert assessors were also listed as Masons - naval architecture specialist John Harvard Biles and senior engineer assessor Edward Chaston.
Another key figure in the inquiry listed as a Freemason was Lord Pirrie.

He was chairman of the Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast which built the Titanic and a directors of shipping line White Star’s parent company.
Nic Compton, author of Titanic on Trial, told History.com: “The Titanic inquiry in Britain was branded a ‘whitewash’ because it exonerated most of those involved.
Only three passengers were interviewed, and they were all from first class.

“The only person both inquiries heaped scorn on was the captain of SS Californian, the ship that had stood by about eight miles off, its crew watching the emergency flares being fired by Titanic, without doing anything about it until it was too late.”
The Titanic sank on April 15 1912, after hitting an iceberg in the Atlantic on the way from Southampton to New York.
There were 700 survivors. The British inquiry decided ship’s captain Edward Smith did “only that which other skilled men would have done in the same position”.
White Star and its parent company were cleared of negligence.

I would say someone wanted Mr Astor dead, and the people that wanted him dead met at Jekyll island, and formed the non federal - federal reserve.

some food for thought on that here

Would you like to see the current prime minister of the UK using masonic symbols? then allow me

One of my all time favourite comedians George Carlin said it best, in this video below. (it's a big club - and you ain't in it)




Deliberators conclusion = we have only scratched the surface.

I will do the USA tomorrow, have a perfectly pleasant evening.



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Deliberator = Definition of deliberator
plural -s
: one that deliberates


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It's a fun article, but to believe the conclusion wouldn't we also need to believe the Masons arranged for an iceberg to hit the Titanic?

Carlin is, as usual, spot on.

footnote: The JJ Astor you speak here is the "IV". The REAL (the original) J.J. Astor died in 1848. JJ Astor the patriarch began as a fur trader and finished as a lessor of a large RE portfolio in Manhattan (which he bought as rural property, if you can believe that, and rented it out for 99 year leases). Reason we mention this, is by time JJ the IV came around, he was probably a big dolt. But we support his being against the Fed, if that's what he was all about, but it really wasn't the Fed that was the problem, it was the Fed's ability to print money which is the problem.

Aside from the article linked https://yournewswire.com/did-the-sinking-of-the-titanic-help-create-the-federal-reserve/ There was this Irishman I met once, he was a very old soul, and he stated that the titanic never went down, and it was the sister ship to it, that had on it's maiden voyage been struck at the front, and had major structural damage, the ship was not insured, so as to no waste said ship while both were in port in Ireland, they changed all the insides over, and the damaged ship became the titanic, and that was the one that sank. His words, not mine. The federal reserve is a huge problem, a 200 trillion $ debt one, that I am sure you are aware of.

Very aware of all the papering of problems in the past 50 years (beginning in earnest with Trick-Dick who obliterated the gold standard forever), yep.

Now that's a fun conspiracy theory, but also very hard to hide a giant ship everyone recognizes and has been worked-over a zillion times in the depths. Old Irishmen vs. a bunch of "Divey" types? Hmmm.... We give our FUN vote to the Old Irishman.

Well there were 3 ships built by the white star line, all were made at the same port in Belfast Ireland, and all at aside each other. (The Irishman was very drunk, and a great story teller) I enjoyed his company very much.

I had occasion to read rather extensively about the Olympic-Titanic switch a while back--why not, it's incredibly intriguing--and, feeling my old debate coach watching me in the dark, I also researched the debunk/rebuttal of the switch. I go with the switch. Here is a fine article on it: https://social.shorthand.com/TitanicMystery/jCPyIbzzPVc/did-the-titanic-really-sink-or-was-it-olympic FYI, the essence of the rebuttal was that, well, the White Star Line was risking its reputation to collect insurance money, etc. HAHAHAHAHHA. Because that's never happened. Rebutal here: http://www.williammurdoch.net/articles_34_Titanic_switch_theory_04.html Y'all can decide, but for me this kind of comes under the category of it was such a big switch, I believe it. I.E., the masses will fall sooner for a great lie than a small lie, and all that. Love Deliberator's writing!

The bigger the lie, the easier to consume, I see what you did there, I like you already bro.

Great post, really enjoying these trips down the rabbit hole very thought provoking 👍

Thank you my friend, we ain't finished yet though. :-)

The Freemasons are a fascinating crew. Are you familiar with the Roberto Calvi case? He was nicknamed 'Gods banker' and found hanging under Blackfriars bridge in London back in the 80s. A death he could not have managed alone and many now believe was in fact inflicted on him by the Freemasons who lured him there on the pretense of helping him escape the country. It is a great story/mystery.

Would you write said story? if you do send me a link please, and I will promote it.

Absolutely, I will keep you updated.

Its a great story and was huge at the time. Well worth looking into.....but it was the mafia/vatican what dun it m'lud...but George Carmen QC who spent time as a teenager in a Roman Catholic seminary.

It was especially huge for me, but I am just writing a quickie article on it. Watch this space!

I just got the time to write this (I need less commitments in my life!) https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@mirriek/the-mystery-of-roberto-calvi-according-to-my-dad

When this many people conspire together with a show that consists of ONLY masonic symbols it is difficult not to call it a conspiracy.

Listen to there they speak about:

  • an entire nation build on our principles
  • all our capital cities have a 'masonic feel' to them
  • we must all be aware of 'FAKE NEWS' (followed by snobby laughter)
  • we cannot have no 'tought police'

I agree, most countries are like that, the least masonic symbolism I have seen is in Asia, not sure why, but they tend to leave most of it alone.

They also leave God alone. God must love China. No groupies.

Youre a great writer fella, and I absolutely admire anyone whom is genuinely passionate about anything as you obviously are...but what are your goals ? What are you aiming to achieve ?
Why should I believe your version of truth as opposed to other sources, who may be just as articulate and passionate in their argument ?
All I see is circumstantial evidence and anecdotes.
On the plus side, I love George Carlin..top atheist :-)

and you promised me connection between freemasons and the Illuminati :-)

You do not have to "believe" me, you have your own mind, I simply present facts and my views on them, you have a unique perspective on life, as do I, and that is life, to each their own, I like writing you like reading, consider me a mere story teller, you decide the truth.

I do, and you're right about me enjoying reading you. But what's your goal here ? I'm just genuinely interested that's all and looking for your angle.