The Repercussions of Pipeline Approvals on Property RightssteemCreated with Sketch.

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Originally posted on anti-aggressionleague.com on January 28, 2017

"Free market" proponents often exempt pipeline construction from scrutiny and tend to assume that erring on the side of economic freedom means always supporting approval for pipeline construction. Protests are met with shallow platitudes about 'energy independence', 'job creation', and 'growth', all of which are tentative at best. These platitudes are countered by different platitudes about 'global warming', 'climate change', and 'clean energy.' What is left unexamined in this ruckus are the unintended effects, not on the environment or GDP growth rates, but on one of the very pillars of civilization: property rights. This is why the false dilemma of U.S. politics is called a false dilemma: it assumes only the extremities and omits the intermediates. Under the original 5th amendment, which has been gutted by our criminal government, eminent domain could only be used to seize private property for public use, which is a position I still disagree with because it does not exclude confiscating peoples' homes or businesses. This was changed in Kelo v. City of New London, which gave private corporations eminent domain power and expanded the doctrine of public use to ambiguously mean any development that may result in economic growth. On paper, anyone's property rights can be usurped if someone else comes along and claims they can make better use of the land. The precedent set by this ruling has had a number of implications in recent years, most notably, pipeline companies have used it to seize land from family farms and ranchers, that have held tenure for several generations, under the vague and now worthless public use doctrine.

Back in early 2015 when the KeyStone XL pipeline was the proposed panacea for unemployment, few pundits on either side of the aisle took into consideration the destruction of property rights that would have occurred if Obama had approved the pipeline (this was one of the few times I agreed with him). In Texas alone, 102 landowners, most of them farmers and ranchers, would have been forced to allow a foreign corporation to build a pipeline on their land. They attempted to do the same thing against 90 unwilling landowners in Nebraska without success.

Energy Transfer Partners, the same company tied up in the Dakota Access Pipeline, seized land from ranchers in the Big Bend region of Texas so they could ship gas to Mexico through the Trans-Pesco pipeline. More, recently they used eminent domain against landowners in Iowa and South Dakota to build the pending Dakota Access Pipeline.

The end does not justify the means. Every assault against property rights on the basis of expediency sets a precedent for the further erosion of property rights and draws us a step closer to despotism. This is clear when past assaults against property rights are taken into account; a disturbing trend emerges when the concession of a corporate prerogative to seize private property is taken into consideration with other aggressions against property rights e.g. civil asset forfeiture, anti-structuring laws, warrantless wiretapping, and ever increasing occupational licensing laws. Every aggression builds up political momentum towards an absolutist state, reversing its function from a system that was meant to protect property rights from criminal trespass to a criminal syndicate that destroys property rights.

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Do you mean with "free market proponents", the ones in government?
When there is government there are no free markets.

I meant rank and file conservatives, like Dennis Prager, who like to use 'free market' rhetoric to sell their economic policies. You know I wasn't talking about run of the mill libertarians.

I'm sorry, I suspected it yes, not always sure or checking who is the writer, and where (s)he's coming from.
But you had the tags and I could have get the gist of your post, where it not that I was tired when I read it. Thinking and reading doesn't go that well in the middle of the night, my bad.

Thank you for the reply.

Eminent domain is just another example of the government colluding with their corporate masters to steal from regular people. Private property owners could not legally be forced to sell without the backing of armed government agents.

Agreed. Eminent domain is theft with few exceptions (and those exceptions are very few).

I would be interested to know what you think those exceptions are.

Any public works project that is intended to protect everyone's property and is available for everyone to use (e.g. levees, canals, roads, the proposed border wall with Mexico). I'm ok with forced takings, as long as it doesn't 1) interfere with the owners livelihood and 2) the land was originally purchased from a government.

It takes my breath away when you say 'I am ok with forced takings '. One can't claim to love freedom while arguing in favor of violence against peaceful people ( forced takings means violence if the peaceful land owners refuse to go).

I was honestly hoping you could give me a example of when forcing a peaceful person to give up anything against their will was the right thing to do.

Governments always claim their "works" are for the greater good.

You will know a tree by its fruits.

Would it take your breath away if I said it's ok for police to forcible detain people suspected of committing crimes? After all some suspects turn out to be innocent peaceful people that the authorities used 'force' against. Is it ok for police to search a suspect's home, violating their property rights. After all they could turn out to be innocent, peaceful people. What we are witnessing here is the difference between deontological ethics, which is solely based on theoretical conjectures and utilitarian ethics, which takes consequences and reality into account. Property is a man made institution, not a sacred god given right, that like all human institutions has evolved over time to suit our needs. I defend it to the extent that it's necessary to safeguard people's lives, wellbeing, and occupations.

The thesis of my post is that the public use doctrine should be more restrictive, not that property rights are absolute and eminent domain should be done away with entirely.

Great article. Excited to check out your website!

youre wrong about the XL pipeline.
It was going to be on EXISTING right of way...there are already two or three OTHER PIPELINE within a few yards of where it was intended to be. They've been there for a lot of years.

The XL pipeline fiasco has nothing to do with anything other than the Tribal Elders attempting to extort the pipeline company. In fact they already agreed then they reneged and asked for a higher price.

The pipeline company demurred...we had a deal
we're changing the deal the tribal elders said pray we don't change it more

Nope" the Pipeline company said.

Then the (extortion) er...demonstrations began.
There were a lot of useful idiots that showed up...and trashed the place.

Actually, I am right about the XL pipeline. Transcanda did try to use eminent domain. Tried but luckily failed.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2014/02/24/foreign-company-tries-to-seize-u-s-land-for-keystone-pipeline/#67dcd23e38d6
You seem to be of the opinion that property rights should be discarded when they become obstacles for your industry.

don't put words in my mouth.
I don't SEEM to be anything.
I said what I said.
I thought we were talking about the USA..you mentioed XL and Texas...now you bring up Canada.

Yeah I was talking about Transcanda in my post.

sorry about that...I assumed you were talking about the XCel pipeline fiasco near the injun rez.

I can't address canada laws. All I know about canada is that some hockey guy opened a donut shop...preeeeety tasty.

So in the other cases its ok for pipeline companies to use state violence to force land owners to sell?

dunno...I suppose you'd have to look at them on an individual basis. In my experience land owner LOVE easement and right-aways...its free money. Useless land that brings in an income. That's the way they were with windtower easements...when I was hauling wind. Do you suppose someone is telling a fib?

Like they did about the Xcel pipeline?

If land owners universally love easements, then why do pipeline companies threaten to sue some land owners for not granting easements. Your shilling isn't working very well. What you're basically telling me is that property rights should be discarded when they become an obstacle for your industry.

there you go again..trying to imply I said something I didn't say.
I said "IN MY EXPERIENCE" ...and I've got over twenty year of it hauling wind..the owners of the land line up and BEGGED for the windmills to be put on their land. They got more for a little bit of land that the windmill sat on that they did for a lot more land they had to farm (or ranch)...and they got it every month...come hell or highwater...there was no such thing a 'crop' fail for an easement.

Don't you have any argument other than insult? Why do you say that I'm a 'shill' when I merely recount personal experience and state facts that you have not refuted?

What' I'm basicly telling you is what I said.
DO NOT put words in my mouth.

Don't you have an argument other than your red herring about windmills. I'm talking about pipeline companies using eminent domain against unwilling land owners. That was the sole purpose of my posts. Nowhere did I mention windmills or your personal experience until you brought it up.

what are we arguing about?
you keep trying to put words in my mouth and I keep spitting them out.
I recounted my own experience...
I rebuted falsehoods you made.
that's all I've said.

if you're going to make an arguement use facts.
not lies.
othewise people like me will come along and kick the props out from under them.

The argument was over property rights. I keep bring the original topic back up you keep trying to divert and obfuscate with your 'personal experience' none of which can be verified online. I have no idea who you are or whether the tales you are telling are actually true. That's why I never subsitute anecdotes for arguments.

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