What Do You Do When a Whale Puts Up a Sell Wall?

in crypto •  7 years ago 

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What are Sell Walls in Crypto Trading?

This is a question that repeatedly comes up in crypto trading groups. Sell walls are large sell orders. Buy walls are large buy orders. It is simple as that. These walls are used by whales to move markets. They are pretty easy to spot. Noobs tend to run scared when they see sell walls and buy when they see a buy wall. Take a step back and take a deep breath.

Why Put Up a Sell Wall in Crypto?

  1. Hold or Suppress a Price Down.
  2. Push a Price Down Into Personal Buy Orders.
  3. Cause Panic in a Market.
  4. Everyone Legitimately Wants to Sell.
  5. Create Negative Sentiment in the Market.

Example of a Sell Wall in Crypto Trading. This is NEO on January 12th Image From a Crypto Coin Trader Member.

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Why Put Up a Buy Wall in Crypto?

  1. Get Sellers to Close Their Sell Orders.
  2. Push the Market Up.
  3. Support a Bullish Market.
  4. Push the Market Into Personal Sell Orders.
  5. Create Positive Sentiment in the Market.


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What I Do When I See Sell Walls and Buy Walls Pop Up.

I try to figure out what is happening. Is it a pump and dump group trying to push the price up. Is a whale trying to push the price down into their buy orders? I am very cautious when I am buying with a false buy wall present and I do not sell with a false sell wall. The only time that I disregard this is when there is either positive news or negative news. In this case it could be regular market behavior.

This is What it Looks Like When Traders Let Others Manipulate Them Into Buying or Selling with Walls.

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It is a good post to let others (who weren't aware) know about sell and buy walls. But to be honest I expected more from this post. I mean more detailed explanations about how to act, how to distinguish and etc.

@hilarski - Sir nice topic you discussed today. Valuable & you simply told us what to do... Valuable & very useful Sir...

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Thanks for sharing. Good to educate people about these type of strategies being used to manipulate prices. I've come across some of these in the past. At first, I fell for them as well, but you start to learn with some experience. Thanks for sharing.

@hilarski,
When sell walls comes people started panic trades. As you said weak hand will give up! Great you decided to talk about it! Valuable tip to entire community! Thanks

Cheers~

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Hy dear @hilarski, I was not aware of this term Sell Wall & Buy Wall. I had some guess in this connection. And whenever some whale sell the coins minnows like me vanished in that case. Thanks for your wonderful elaboration As Always. All the best and Stay Blessed!

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Totally Agree with that. Well explained post with new terms to me.

Congratulations @hilarski

Exceptional article & valuable topic you decided to talk today. Interesting article...!!!

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Hi @hilarski, nice post about whales. Did you succeed to transfer your BTC (from you last post 1 week ago)? Personally I don't buy when there is a huge whale. Large investors can influence the market to their advantage (both upwards and downwards) and I am not a big investor. I'd rather wait a few minutes or a few hours for the whale to disappear. If you have time, can you read my latest post about Binnary-chain ? https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@crypto-power/beyond-bitcoin-binnary-chain-vericoin-verium

YEs, everything worked out. BTC took 5 days and HDG took 4 days.

Just like they are doing with gold and silver, correct?
Great post!

Yup, they have been doing it for years.

Than we should brace ourself and prepare for a war!

Chines guys start to build walls on BitShares Exchange:
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Looks more than canyon, or collision of sell and buy walls. BTS/bitCNY pair start to be very liquid on BitShares. Love this very much. today's volume is pass 200M CNY.

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  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Selling the walls, anybody!?? Wanna buy a wall??
Buy a wall fast, before it's too late!

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I am new here and it is very important to learn this type of movements to obtain good profitability in trading

Recently this was happening with me and I was empty in a stage:

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I appreciate your explanation on the topic. Maximum new comers like me were not aware on it Sir @hilarski!

@hilarski This is me every morning waiting for your post.

That being said, I think this article is fantastic! Newer investors are fairly unfamiliar with these Whale tactics and I think if they have a better understanding as to what they're used for they're far likely to FOMO sell off. Ive seen countless 100 BTC Sell walls pop up and I thought, "OMG WHATS HAPPENING!?" but I come back down to reality and realize Spoofy is just out playing with the n00bs. Thanks for writing this Randy, Upvoted and Resteemed.

I have been reading a lot on what bullish bearish and the walls mean. I thank you for an excellent explanation. I'm waiting for an ETH dip but it seems like it's not coming anytime soon. Guess I'll just HODL.

I am finding it very important not to make mistakes again running into walls. All about info and not rushing in. I figure others coming in will make those mistakes so I focus more on trading that info. Then worry about chasing the big dogs of crypto. Finding and working those patterns will serve us well going forward.

@hilarski...bro if i saw the big sale wale i am also want to sale and if the market dowm and most of they are not used to sell or buy ..i am also do the same ...i fallow only depends on the markey only..thank you for sharing with us

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

When i see a big sell wall i try to sell too and wait some time to see the price more cheap and buy again because you have to have in mind all the market cycles and try to learn of them because sometimes you hold your coins and you don't do movements in that cycles and lost the opportunity of have more coins,for example i bought 10 omg and i took advantage of market cycles and now i have 13 omg . Regards

You are playing into their game. HODLing and buying more on the dip is my technique.

Yes friend it's almost the same technique you buy on dips and i do the same but selling at the highest peak to buy again on dips :) . Regards

wow excellent information indeed, honestly i don't know before about sell and buy walls but today curtesy to your post i able to know about walls in crytpo trading and your post is really helpful for me, thanks for sharing this important knowledge of crypto trading with us, Stay blessed.

This walls are interesting. When you once know how to deal with them you become mature trader, yeah!

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Interesting. These walls can magically disappear at any point as well. It is really hard to deduce what is going on. When the culprit gets what they want the market can go any direction.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

@hilarski,

always updates and anaylize market position well. i agreed much with your thinking.
thanks for updating infos.

here is sell wall and buy wall

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Over the years I have seen that always follow the big money and you will last long in this market.

You've nicely analysed sell wall and buy wall in Crypto Trading. Also nice compare both ways. I understand now better why put up both ways. Thanks you for shared informative article @hilarski.

Being the OLD Guy that I am. I am glad that you pointed this out to the NOOBS @hilarski. I was a licensed Stockbroker for over 26 years in the Financial Industry and I can tell you I saw it all from the Inside seat looking at Wall Street. All I can say now is that I am glad I no longer am in that industry.......... We are all so young in the CRYPTO's so I must say at this point I love the term HODL........

Yes, HODLing is my favorite thing now. When you HODL these walls are not even noticed.

'HODL' is the key against sell wall.

Is there a reason for a spontaneous appearance of a large buy or sell order except to manipulate the price of the currency in question?

Yes, profit.

Buy and sell walls to a single dealer. When a large buy or sell order is displayed, it is likely that other investors will place their orders for the same price point. Since the exchanges usually do not buy and sell their own buildings, so the value manipulation is usually from the investors.
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I refrain from paying attention to this wall, I just wait for the course to improve. Main on the exchange of patience :)

Traders should be patient and not fall for other people manipulations.
Otherwise, they rather not trade, because they will lose all their money and then jump from the roof.

Well this whole blog and the information in it is REALLY a new idea for me. I did not know about it in that detail actually.

Why Put Up a Sell Wall in Crypto?

Thanks for elaborating this question deeply. Finally i got the know how about it.

Thanks for sharing this worth reading Blog

Stay Blessed, Steem On!

This is great to know as a total noob in the crypto world. Thx for sharing, I'm amazed it's that easy to manipulate the entire market in such a way.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

i see alwasy new iformations and get many knowledge from your posts but i dont understant the up down of market still today and now this sell wall can any link which give whole details about it
is this work and a sign to understan market before up and down @hilarski

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I'm not a day trader, I am buying tokens and cryptocurrency that have functions that will either buy every day products for me that are efficient or exchanges that are super efficient. I am buying and trading to get out of the centralized fiat currency world.

I am in the cryptocurrency and world for the long run. Saying that I also trade for profit so I can invest in structures like steemit. My husband knew about this but I had no clue, it makes sense to me. Thank you @hilarski, through you actions here on Steemit, you are someone I trust when giving me information I can use.

Buying on dips and lows exactly what your guts tells you not to do has always worked out well for me "so far"

this massive buy/sell can effect on the price of BTC and recently the price is very ups&down, but steady. now we are looking forward what next come.......

I just tend to HODL when it gets to that situation. the wall will fall with time and the market gets back to normal.
I didn't know it was called so @hilarski and I just acted automatically so thanks for expanding my knowledge, I learn some every day and it's pretty great :)

good suggest.helpfull blog really

Great analysis and explanation. Trend overall is still very bullish, so I will buy the dip on support lines.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Hey bro @hilarski It goes that without that you put more of a certain cryptocurrency, you are more affected by the change in that cryptocurrency value. For this reason, a significant amount of bitcoin, etherium, tripple (or any form of cryptoconceance) is also known as "whim", which is in their best interest to control the best price currencies in their dealings. This is not a whim of its best interest, for example, a coin does not allow the price to climb above a certain level until the currency is accumulated as much as possible. For this reason, whales are often created to sell and sell whales for manipulation of a currency.
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@hilarski
The very helpfully post. Why Put Up a Sell Wall in Crypto?
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thanks for the information in bitcoin.great work

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  ·  7 years ago (edited)

This is Realy Important , i was looking for answer for example :

what I understand in this picture That there a Sell Whale
& Price Of Neo Will Go Up , Because If we want Neo Go Down
We Must Breaking Sell Whale To Go Down , I'm Right ?
Thank you So much For Sharing This it's realy useful for me
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We would need it to come down to go up yes but it is a false wall to keep the price down.

What I Do When I See Sell Walls and Buy Walls Pop Up.


We must jump out of it. The way you do that jump you explained very well~

This is very important information and useful.

Thanks sir
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What, why, what to do, when sell wall happen, 100% covered by your post. Excellent

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Really excellent information indeed,
Thanks for your wonderful Always. All the best and keep it up sir.

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Thanks for update and nice stuff @hilarski
Its interesting and benefited to steemian. Keep it up and stay blessed

Great article well done

This is the first time I'm getting to know about sell wall and buy wall. Thanks for the enlightenment though.

Thanks you for shared informative article @hilarski

Great post sir!

Truly, great information.

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Upvoted& Resteemed your post sir. ☺

Great information of token magic sale.
good advice

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great post upvoted and resteemed

@hilarsk iSuch a great article & nice photography
##Upvote/Resteem###Wow Jerry that was a lot of work, thank you!
I will check them out when I get home this evening and can sit down and read.

true And tried, Especially with all the pump and dump groups it’s sometimes hard to read, because honestly, some of them don’t seem that well planned :P

Thanks for this eye-opener. Never really considered it so for me it is indeed some helpful information. Need to look into the order lists a bit more in detail

thanks @hilarski has given good information, I really like posting @hilarski.

It can be a crypto field for any market needs that is very important for negative attitudes

its awesome and really a new iformation about ,sell wall, i really didnot know any one thing about it before your post thanx hilarski sir always give us newest informations and updates of market

i like the the way you posted thats really a good work

Very cool thank you for this information

Nice post

Years ago I dabbled in penny stocks and followed the chat rooms closely. I could "see" these walls building through various posters and promotions. I'm new to cryptocurrencies, but I figured this market would be a golden goose for market manipulators. Thank you for your informative post!

Hallo sir @hilarski, I was not aware of this term Sell Wall & Buy Wall. I had some guess in this connection. And whenever some whale sell the coins minnows like me vanished in that case. Thanks for your wonderful elaboration As Always. All the best and Stay Blessed.....
Thanks for good informativ

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You answered my question "what are buy and sell walls". Thanks. Didn't have the time to google on my own or something

Really helpful post for the newbies specially......

big thumbs up

Some of these "whales" might be trading bots.
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Thanks brother for sharing a good information for us

Whales really have a very bad effect on cryptos, hope that one day there power will disappear or reduce to close to nothing

leave everything behind.... lets talk about your thumbnail... :p makes me excited

@hilarski he wants explanation. may be demo

i will ask him to give me on lease :D

just do nothing, a wall or fake wall will do nothing

thats not a good news as bulk volume sell could be reduce the price of btc and mostly affected small and medium enterprenuer. hope everything will be fine.

Wonderful post.
To me it is still not clear how whales can create a sell wall. To be able to set a sell order at a certain (lower than market) price, they do need to have a certain volume of coins first, right?

Well, suppose they have that volume (by multiple whales sticking together or not); are they not playing with fire? If everyone spots the sell wall; all they need to do is no longer sell but HODL or even buy at that lower price. If everyone does that, the whales actually end up losing money. Amirite?

i will must say this is amazing ..

Hello @hilarski,

Extraordinary good article with valuable trade tip for all steemit community. Very useful step by step guidance & incredible topic you discussed. Thank you.

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excellent advice & useful information for all crypto traders & lovers @hilarski

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Very very good info about "sell wall" and this is the beauty of your blog and steemit where on day to day basis we a re learning new things.

Thank you @hilarski and Have a great day.

the big players know how to play that game ;)

good info and sell wall and buy wall should checked before trading a coin.

Thanks

Thank you sir for providing this info, I was not aware of this, but after reading this article, I can fully understand what is a sell wall.

Steem on and stay blissful....

Exactly, this looks like pump and dump. In other words market manipulations. The exchanges are working on this problem and try to mitigate. But for sure if you spread this over several accounts and prices it is not that obvious.

Crazy to think that 200 btc is a big enough sell to cause weak hands to panic nowadays.
They were much larger 1 year ago. Haha

Great article, very helpful for trading beginners, and a great reminder for all. Thanks for your work Randy!

Hey, I got fooled sometimes by sell/buy walls and almost each time I have took decision to follow them, I lost money. I really needed to read this article, now I think about what would happened if I have read it long ago...

I'm trying to follow walls and trade with them, its going very well!

I think you've got to HODL until the time feels right for you to make a move

So if I understood correctly, the whales are trying to sell their coins/tokens at a high price, cause panic to us noobs so we sell our coins/tokens as well. That will cause a price drop and then they will buy back cheap the coins they sold at a high price increasing their profits in zero time.

This article is very unique and stand out...

In some cases, "a cigar is just a cigar." Sell and buy walls are put up because a whale want to get out/get in (respectively.)

Funnily enough, the original "Bible" of technical analysis explained the (ascending triangle chart pattern)[https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/ascendingtriangle.asp] by saying it was caused by a sell wall. Some whale wanted to get out while the getting was good. The authors were careful enough to say that the big seller might have been motivated by non-market needs: i.e., (s)he just needed the money.

That was huge ass Sell wall for neo 😂😂😂

great informative post sir.

good!.