Vinny Lingham On "The Flippening"

in cryptocurrency •  7 years ago 

@shayne here.

For those who don't know, Coindesk coversthe Flippening nicely:

No stranger to strange milestones, the cryptocurrency sector may soon see a historic first, one that could upend long-held perceptions of its market.

Branded 'The Flippening' by market observers, this new hypothetical is defined loosely as the point at which a competing blockchain network could replace bitcoin as the largest and best capitalized blockchain. Sparked by increasing inflows in cryptographic assets, the concept has already seen a dedicated hashtag and website.

Given that bitcoin invented and popularized blockchain systems, the development could herald a time of new diversity and experimentation for the nascent sector that, until recently, was largely defined in context of bitcoin.

Vinny Lingham

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I get his point, here.

Bitcoin has the Aristotelian properties of money, which are:

  1. It must be durable. Money must stand the test of time and the elements. It must not fade, corrode, or change through time.
  2. It must be portable. Money hold a high amount of 'worth' relative to its weight and size.
  3. It must be divisible. Money should be relatively easy to separate and re-combine without affecting its fundamental characteristics.
  4. It must have intrinsic value. This value of money should be independent of any other object and contained in the money itself.

There is nothing more durable than a decentralized, distributed system. Bitcoin is so portable that you can carry it in your head if your memory is good enough. Bitcoing is about 8 times more divisible than any fiat currency. And I'm convinced by the Bitcoin Wiki's argument for the intrinsic value of Bitcoin:

Each bitcoin gives the holder the ability to embed a large number of short in-transaction messages in a globally distributed and timestamped permanent data store, namely the bitcoin blockchain. There is no other similar datastore which is so widely distributed. There is a tradeoff between the exact number of messages and how quickly they can be embedded. But as of December 2013, it's fair to say that one bitcoin allows around 1000 such messages to be embedded, each within about 10 minutes of being sent, since a fee of 0.001 BTC is enough to get transactions confirmed quickly. This message embedding certainly has intrinsic value since it can be used to prove ownership of a document at a certain time, by including a one-way hash of that document in a transaction. Considering that electronic notarization services charge something like $10/document, this would give an intrinsic value of around $10,000 per bitcoin.

An explanation?

I saw this in the comments of Vinny's tweet and thought it was worth sharing:

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What do you think about the Flippening?

I'm sure my buddy @acidyo has a fantastic explanation :D

But I wander what other mortals think, too lol

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It was only a matter of time to be honest, bitcoins lack of development has made the flippening flip quicker. I can't wait til more people realize the advantage of our blockchain to Eth's though, that is also only a matter of time.

Here is my friends instagram page from last year - we were both on the same page about the flippening.

This is his now inactive instagram page:

https://www.instagram.com/crypt0trader/

Nostalgic:

I'm finding it helpful to have a good helping of BTC and ETH, and as big a hoard as I can get of STEEM!

I see Ethereum being bigger than bitcoin as a good thing. Not because I am a cheerleader for ETH but because it just means the market is making more room for other applications of cryptocurrency, blockchain and the over decentralization of everything. Bitcoin and Ethereum are two different technologies with some overlap. Some people see it as a competition.. like it bitcoin and eth are Highlanders and "there can be only one". But that is not the case. The market will decide where all the pieces fit. I think there is room for many types of coins serving many purposes.

Yes, I generally agree with your assessment. There is a place for Bitcoin, there is a place for Ethereum, there is a place for Steem. It's a big playground and lots of big kids can play :D

Hi Shayne,

When do you think we're going to see the flippening? Win 10 STEEM :) my link below:

https://steemit.com/ethereum/@steemthenews/the-flippening-is-comming-let-s-predict-the-flippening-date-and-win-10-steem

VinnyLingham Vinny Lingham tweeted @ 13 Jun 2017 - 21:05 UTC

Bitcoin is better money, deflationary & scarce. Ether is not really money, inflationary & abundant. The flippening makes no sense?!

Yorkyor30444439 YORK780 tweeted @ 13 Jun 2017 - 21:07 UTC

@VinnyLingham It makes sense, completely. $eth is a platform, a succesfull ICO launched will lower the amount of av… twitter.com/i/web/status/8…

Disclaimer: I am just a bot trying to be helpful.

The flippening is real. I think it's coming in the next week...see my most recent post!

thanks for advice - I just sold my 0.25 ETH - might be a good idea to buy back

The damage has been done. Ether rally brings other altcoins into the game as well, as people now start hunting for the next Ether.

BURSTCOIN will be the next - it's the one of the most revolutionary currencies

ENVIRONMENT-FRIENDLY

Good Luck BurstCoin

nice of a comment. nice to have people like you for steemit community. thank you

That statement is willful ignorance on Vinny's part. It's not about how bad or good ETH is in those properties. It's about a complete divergence of the current bitcoin from the bitcoin originally envisioned. Until the developers and miners and all the others arrogant ass clowns who seem to run the so called decentralized bitcoin get their heads out of their rear ends and FIX bitcoin, the flippening makes perfect sense.

Vinny is an interesting voice in bitcoin. He's a BTC maximalist and an investor. He's also got a lot of money involved, and I like to listen to those people.

I know and I really don't mean to be disrespectful, that's why I said "willfull" and not just ignorant. He's choosing to ignore the obvious. Bitcoin is broken. If something else besides ETH was the next biggest, it would be flippening. Has nothing to do with which one is the better version of "money". Bitcoin is controlled by a small group of miners and developers who are too self absorbed and arrogant to do what's best for everyone. That's not decentralization.

I think the "Flippening" will happen. I also think it's not really a big deal and shouldn't really effect bitcoin at all, other than all of the maximalists' egos.

This is basically my opinion as well.

I a paid two dollars to send twenty five cents to show a dude how easy it is to transfer money from my mycelium wallet to his..

I do not understand the tone of this message... lol

It am stating that bitcoin transactions can be expensive when transferring small amounts.. That just a fact.. It might get more expensive...

discussion well above my paygrade but lurking to see how the big brains weigh in 😉

Yeah, that's why I don't really talk much about this stuff. There are way smarter people who actually know what they're talking about lol

I don't know if I agree if BTC has stood the test of time yet. Gold and silver certainly have.

It's survived a whole lot of attack. Remarkable, really.