Does Steemit still believe in the "moral high ground?"

davidpakman (76) in dtube • 7 years ago

The question came from a viewer, does the moral high ground still exist in politics...I believe it does, but merely for fundraising purposes. Your thoughts?

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brandonscalera (56) · 7 years ago

What’s your opinion on the new tax code for Crypto in the United States and how it will effect us steemers/traders and investors?

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tronthetechie (56) · 7 years ago

Technically it isn’t new, It’s just not ambiguous anymore.

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brandonscalera (56) · 7 years ago

So what’s going to happen when they try taxing the hundreds of transaction you and me make?

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tronthetechie (56) · 7 years ago

I get you, I am kinda worried about the next tax year because of my "income" on steemit. but hundreds of transactions? What are you making hundreds of transactions for in the crypto world? If it's buying goods, sales tax and capital gains is applicable, if it is trading assets, you owe gains on the profits. If we are talking trading SBD for STEEM, that is kinda like trading rewards points for a dollar at gamestop, as long as the final sale is taxed there shouldn't be any issue. (I'm not a CPA, nor versed in tax law, but it shouldn't be hard to argue in a legal case.

Even then, if we get to taxing every transaction, what are they going to do, force decentralized autonomous organizations to include a sales tax? And what about when everyone tells them to chug it out their ass? You have to pay taxes at your fiat off ramp, so what changed?

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brandonscalera (56) · 7 years ago

True, good to know I mean if you look at my steemit wallet history there’s so many transaction idk what I would do to tax them!

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tronthetechie (56) · 7 years ago

I’m right there with you, after my last couple livestreams , i’m Trying to figure out if trading sbd for steem is a taxable event, and then if taking steem and making it steem power would be too. In the second scenario, I would just block trades my sbd directly to power then pay the “gains” (or credit the losses) as according.

Maybe while we have these “less taxes on the little guy” republicans in house maybe they will address it, but I’m not going to stop eating until they do, because I expect nothing out of them.

They had a chance with this last tax bill to address crypto but decided not to, maybe after adoption hits critical mass will we start collectively thinking about it 🤔 💭 .

I’ve come to realize, if the “little guy” is Johnson & Johnson, what size am I, molecular?

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gardenlady (66) · 7 years ago

Politically, the Republicans have claimed 'the moral highground' for decades but it's more that they have just been hiding behind a cloak of moral high ground. But with this disaster of a president(and the people in his administration and many many in congress, oh, and the attorney general!), all the hypocrisy is being laid bare at a ridiculously high rate.

It's a tough question, individuals can have high standing morals and be upstanding individuals, but in politics it creates a wedge. It pits people as good vs bad, and that doesn't seem to me to solve anything. Politicians should do what is right, based on facts.

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chrismccron (50) · 7 years ago (edited)

I think I agree with you @davidpakman. I think that the "Moral High Ground" only matters in the voter's mind. If you perceive that someone has the moral high ground, that's all that matters. Politicians do not have to actually occupy that moral high ground, so long as they purport to occupy that moral high ground. As you said, you can coerce your mistress into getting an abortion, but still say you'd pass legislation to make abortions harder to obtain. The voters only latch onto the latter in most cases. It's a sad state of affairs.

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n8dg (37) · 7 years ago

But president Trump has the most bigly moral high ground of anyone you ever met, believe me....

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davidpakman (76) · 7 years ago

that's right, BIGLY BIG LEAGUE!

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kiporen212 (59) · 7 years ago

UUUUUUUUGE. SO IMPORTANT.

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n8dg (37) · 7 years ago (edited)

The American people have spoken... and survey says the president’s moral high ground is really very special...UNBELIEVABLE in fact
M“MHG”GA

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aegyptiangod (40) · 7 years ago

He's a paragon. Surrounded by morals. Big morals. Ethical morals.

Believe me.

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kiporen212 (59) · 7 years ago

Yep. The high ground only matters to the extent it can lead to political power.

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kiporen212 (59) · 7 years ago

You hit the nail on the head. Perception (of moral rectitude) is reality (even if reality in the political realm isn't real at all!).

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kiporen212 (59) · 7 years ago

Also, one's reaction to sex scandals in the political realm always seems to relate back to that person's proximity to power. Are you a Democrat when Bill Clinton schtupped an intern? Then it's not impeachable. Are you a Republican in the age of Roy Moore? Oh, well, then Roy Moore is ok. It all depends on who is in power. That's the main variable.

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fekaromer (48) · 7 years ago

Very nice. 👌

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towardgold (42) · 7 years ago

verygood this post @davidpakman

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thatgermandude (59) · 7 years ago

I think your co-host is making a pretty good point there. In Germany we usually don't dig too deep into the personal lives of our candidates, because it does matter what they do as a public person not as a private one.

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princeyk (48) · 7 years ago

I think it does also, but it actually depend on the individual. Moral high ground could be faked you know?

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syedwaqas (41) · 7 years ago

Awesome post Resteem

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greenmask9 (55) · 7 years ago

Moral high - yes
Moral high ground - no

Some politicians act according to moral highs. But there is no ground or such a thing, which a party could be on. It is people, not groups of people

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sherina (33) · 7 years ago

I like this post very much

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zahidkhanniai (46) · 7 years ago

I bleave it

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missrdx (42) · 7 years ago

Nic post

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bigtom13 (64) · 7 years ago

"The question came from a viewer, does the moral high ground still exist in politics...I believe it does, but merely for fundraising purposes. Your thoughts?"

Jeeze. And I thought I was a cynic :) Unfortunately, I agree with your assessment. Amoral seems to be the norm in politics today.

Thanks for a thought provoking question that I'm sure will stick with me all day long....

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irvet (55) · 7 years ago

Where politics begins, there ends the moral

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ericz (38) · 7 years ago

Of course it still exists, but are you or the asker confusing the moral high ground for an actual place/quality, or an influence technique?

Scott Adams Popularized the "high ground" technique in many of his blogposts and books:
Master Persuader Infographic

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amosgreen (25) · 7 years ago

you are right

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