Eosit - Why Eos Needs To Be A Social Media Platform Too

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phgnomo (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thats the thing... People involved need to Go beyond the make money part.
We are in the middle of a huge experiment that Will change How interactions in the world Will happen.
This is a true revolution in the making.

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rumble (52) · 7 years ago

Excellent post man. Thanks for linking my post. I recently was talking about crypto with someone IRL and they were asking how there could be so many different currencies and I made the point about real world currencies and how many of those. I told them it was like different communities on the internet coming together. You are right about the governance and that will continue to play a huge part moving forward. There is so much drama in crypto and fighting which reminds me of stupid conflicts between countries. I really want to be a part of a community that works together to improve things and I feel like through blockchains this now possible.

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futuremind (70) · 7 years ago (edited)

my conceptual mind has been hard at work on this topic. My consensus on your views of consensus within the block chain mesh very well. I guess that pun was undoubtedly intentional.
When you spoke of steemit not being a social media platform, and more towards the attributes of our consensual nature, that is; our propensity towards the common mind agreement, I was riddled with goosebumps for a moment because this is all become very clear to me on an integral level, and I feel that I have a head start in this understanding. It's articles such as this that deserve the attention of the mass user base here.
I cannot tell you how many people view my perception of blockchain and steemit as a farce, and I can't help but to feel bad for them. I have tried to reach out to everybody I know in my personal Circle, but I'm sure you know what kind of reception I'm met with. in fact I haven't been able to convince anybody that I personally know, but this is no fault of their own due to our political bodies in the United States fuding the hell out of this blockchain technology. as it is, it doesn't deter me from my positive outlook, because I simply know what's coming.
So I happened upon your feed, because you upvoted one of my posts. I always make it a point to look at the people that look at me. I want to say thank you for your up vote, and reciprocate with not only up voting you, but also resteeming. in fact this is a post that really should be resteemed by everybody.

PS. Thanks to your extensive vocabulary, I invariably learned a new word today (prosaically)
I love it! Thank you so much for your Insight. also I noticed this is the first time you've posted in awhile, I really hope to see more content such as this from you in the future. Followed!

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mjhomb (58) · 7 years ago

Thanks @futuremind! I feel that the shift is sneaking up on us. It's almost like the occupy movement went underground, into the blockchain, and us maturing there, gestating. I agree with you, something big is coming soon.

A few people I know started out laughing at crypto but their views have transformed since becoming involved. I love how getting into this stuff educates us, makes us better people wrt our communities

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edb1984 (49) · 7 years ago (edited)

Some people, dare I say most people, won't or can't see change until it's already happened. I used to think it was only because they happened to be out the loop and didn't get exposed to the idea. Since I discovered crypto in the summer I've seen that they can see it right in front of them but they're unable to truly see the implications of this technology. It's like they can only connect the dots retroactively.

I've got the sense from talking to people that it may even come in part from very different ways to perceive reality. All the most innovative ideas, that is to say ideas that were of a sufficient leap forward, were created by those who were able to see two essential things. First, to believe there probably is a far better/efficient way to do things. Two, that the solution or better way may not exist yet and the answer may well lie outside of the box. It's one thing to look at improving existing technology but it's what we call "visionary" if we're able to create something which fundamentally changes everything and not by accident. A line I like from an Andreas Antonopoulos talk about Bitcoin is, "just like with the internet things that were previously unthinkable, are now thinkable".

The truly innovative person is one who sees the past as something that which has happened as a matter of record, rather than something which controls the present and therefore by extension the future. Where new ways of doing things is seen as freely possible because we're not a prisoner of the past.

I've had people personally make the argument I'm sure you've seen as well, that crypto will never take off because there's so few places currently to spend it right now. I'm amazed this even sounds reasonable enough to say without the individual becoming aware how silly it is half way through uttering it. Although there are many great examples I always use email and computers. You could say no one's going to use email, it will never take off, because look how hardly anyone has a computer in their home. Obviously this is a completely backwards way to see things. Those that see things this way can't truly innovate. They can only see one step ahead, a minor modification to an existing structure, they can't generate anything novel. It's not possible for them to be able to see the sense in any idea if it didn't already exist and for which the infrastructure isn't already there. For the same reason they couldn't see it before, after it's already happened they can look at the transition and then it it seems perfectly clear. Now they can see it, but all that's happened is the line has been moved.

It's sort of like the mistake you can see in retrofuturism where they couldn't conceive of the internet and how we'd use our phones in regards to social media. Instead any conception of the mobile phone was just a regular phone except smaller and more portable. Even the computer just got smaller but they imagined most notably as something we'd use to make video calls, or as a more efficient library. You might think that's fairly close but it is actually very different because it was mostly just imagining what already existed, but smaller. But the true meaningful innovations were missed completely and that's because they really had much less or nothing to draw from to be able to imagine it.

So it is with Bitcoin, in that the implications are so incredible and vast that it's difficult to even imagine it. The evolution of money to a digital worldwide trustless network owned and controlled by no one is a technological disruption of such significance in the history of humanity it's going to invariably be something impossible to understand by most people for the same reasons I gave before. They'll only be able to see it after it's already happened, because then it will be the past, then it will seem obvious.

(tagging also @futuremind)

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sublimate (48) · 7 years ago (edited)

I do think steem is a nice base for a better society, respecting , supporting each other is the way to go.
That is what i see with steem, having transparency and our own governance, enough taxes and debt money!

i could not convince no one back then when i figured bitcoin, it was at 80$ :D . I was in a budget and could not afford it , the next time i check it... was at 500$+ and i went: Ohhh.. shiit!, i'm f*ck dumbass! :D

Anyways... lol. I am still on a budget :) [looking for job] , i do not think i can grasp any Eos.. cant afford it (just like bitcoin lol) well still need to dig more around Eos... do not even know the price or the whitepaper ... :)

So I am really thankful to STEEM, to exists. Hopefully in a near future we see, groceryshops, markets, travel tickets, etc accepting steems rather than fiat, Banks are the ruin and even ruin peoples lifes taking out their houses!, why a bank has to own houses! really is insane!

In "real world" we elect officials to represent us (vote for us), then those vote and decide for the rest of the persons that got them elected (we)..., and that represents a lot of power for those elected officials, since there is not much transparency, talking mostly about Money, some of them could go and take shadow money ( from a corp lobby.. a criminal org, etc. ) to influence on the votes. Those elected official are the so called "politicians"

Is time to stop unknown people take decisions/vote for us!, they are usually not thinking about us! :)

With a platform like this, there is much more potential, we can have more impact on the society, not just locally but globally, everybody can help everybody now around the planet. finally your voting counts!, and indeed your vote is power!

Much Power and Respect Fellows!

Have a good day!

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buy-bitcoin (44) · 7 years ago

Money is not actually useful until it is actually used. I believe that this same standard applies to cryptocurrency.

EOS is being built to offer many uses, including the social media applications postulated in your post. But the governance aspect is a meaningful boundary in all social cases.

EOS will need a large enough developer base to attract "governance-positive" entrepreneurs as well as a similarly primed market of users.

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cygon (49) · 7 years ago

Ultimately though, this decentralization talk is, like many other ideas of society is more a philosophy than a practical means of organization. Same with the socialism experiments of last century. Egalitarian ideas function ok in small groups, but larger groups require order and governance. Those with power make the rules. No one has solved the collective action problem yet; ultimately we personally take the actions that benefit us the most, even if those actions are detrimental to the group as a whole. Eventually in a decentalized system, some people are going to end up with an outsized level of influence and power, and they will use the system to maximize their benefit, at the expensive of the vast majority of the rest of the group. You already see that with a behavior of a lot of the whales here. Government gets a bad rap, but let's not forget what the purpose of it is. By giving everyone an equal vote, you allow for the masses to pool their strength to have enough influence to challenge that of the powerful indiviual members of society. While it does have numerous failings, it's still the least bad system we have. Decentralization with no governance leads to neofeudalism. Good governance leads to stability, cohesiveness, and shared prosperity. Reglation must exist to ensure that we act in a means that actually leads us forward as a group rather than the few that gain power.

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edb1984 (49) · 7 years ago

Ultimately though, this decentralization talk is, like many other ideas of society is more a philosophy than a practical means of organization. Same with the socialism experiments of last century. Egalitarian ideas function ok in small groups, but larger groups require order and governance. Those with power make the rules. No one has solved the collective action problem yet;

You're talking as if bitcoin doesn't exist. Bitcoin DOES solve that exact problem.

Now of course Steemit does have some issues which is what you're referring to and is a bit different. The conclusion isn't that decentralisation and blockchain is some kind of failed experiment, it doesn't point that way at all. The main reason the drama with the reward pool is the way it is, is because of lack of development for Steemit. It's hardly changed since I got into crypto in the summer. A few simple rule changes could make all the difference. The point, though, is that it will be a blockchain solution that must and will be found. The answer isn't to go back to centralisation it's to create blockchain based rules which disincentivise those from gaming the system, and insensitive quality content creators. Centralisation should be kept to an absolute minimum if there's no other way. You gave up way too quickly.

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