(LANGUAGE WARNING) - Is Feminism a "Man-Made" Conspiracy?

in feminism •  8 years ago  (edited)

Introduction

This post was inspired by a video I stumbled upon during a late night Youtube binge and it made me wondered if #feminism was in fact something that mostly benefit men basic instincts rather than women's best interests.

My conclusion...yes it did. As you watch this video, enjoy the irony of the situation we are in today.

The Father of Propaganda and How He Used Feminism

I'm a student of marketing and any marketer's worth it's salt knows who Edward Bernays is. I'm bringing him forward so that people can realize that there are agents who fashion social movements...while most people think those same movements are "organic".

What Wikipedia says about Edward Bernays:

Edward Louis James Bernays; November 22, 1891 − March 9, 1995) was an Austrian-American pioneer in the field of public relations and propaganda, referred to in his obituary as "the father of public relations". He combined the ideas of Gustave Le Bon and Wilfred Trotter on crowd psychology with the psychoanalytical ideas of his uncle, Sigmund Freud.

He felt this manipulation was necessary in society, which he regarded as irrational and dangerous as a result of the "herd instinct" that Trotter had described. Adam Curtis's award-winning 2002 documentary for the BBC, The Century of the Self, pinpoints Bernays as the originator of modern public relations, and Bernays was named one of the 100 most influential Americans of the 20th century by Life magazine.

Feminism Used by Edward Bernays to Sell Cigarettes - "The Torches of Freedom"

Historically, smoking was an inappropriate act for women just like it is today for most women to grow their armpits hair and leg hair. It was seen as unattractive. Dutch painters used cigarettes as a symbol of human foolishness in the 17th century and in the 19th century, cigarettes were perceived as props of “fallen women” and prostitutes. Back then, even some women’s groups also fought against women smoking.

So how do you reverse this mass perception? With a smart propaganda / public relation stunt of course!

The formula was simple. In 1929, Edward Bernays paid women actress to smoke their "torches of freedom"during a big Easter Sunday Parade in New York. He hired his own photographers to make sure that good pictures were taken and then published around the world.

Feminist Ruth Hale also called for women to join in the march saying, “Women! Light another torch of freedom! Fight another sex taboo!” Once the footage was released, the campaign was being talked about everywhere, the women’s walk was seen as a protest for equality and sparked discussion throughout the nation and is still known today.

Today's Feminists Are Useful Idiots

Useful Idiots: In political jargon, useful idiot is a term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they are not fully aware of, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause.

How does having a "Slut Walk" or an International "Free the Nipples Day" actually empowering for women?

How is working "for the man" in a stupid office for 40h+ per week and not spending time with their kids empowering for women?

How does having sex with unvetted men, expose themselves to STDs and at risk of becoming a single mother empowering for women?

Last time I check, being a single mother is a straight ticket to poverty.


Did Feminism Make Women Less Happy in Aggregate?


Average happiness index value for the period of 1972-2006
Source: Based on responses to question 157 of the General Social Surveys

As this Huffington Post article puts it:

Greater educational, political, and employment opportunities have corresponded to decreases in life happiness for women, as compared to men.

My theory

So what if most women doesn't like this "feminist paradise" we now live in today? Technically, there is no law in the book that discriminate on women. Women are in politics, work in every fields they want to, got to sleep with anyone they like and even have abortions to not deal with the consequences of having sex. Why are they less happy than before?

Maybe they've been sold on the idea that it is their career that defines their identity. Maybe they've been told their careers would make them happy. Maybe they've been told that focusing on family and being a homemaker is for losers who don't have ambitions. Maybe they've been told that they should never count on men because they are not to be trusted. Maybe it's because they actually lost something in this process of "emancipation"...what's actually needed to live "The Good Life".

In Conclusion

As Gavin McInnes crudely puts it in his clip:

I'm telling you man, this feminism thing is the best deal dude have ever had ever. You don't just get the milk for free...you get all the milk you want and the cow is happy. The cow think it's cool to give you milk. You don't have to buy the cow!

Feminism along with the rise of the secular values created the perfect environment for people who want to live like rabbits and who's sole goal in life is pleasure seeking. It is also a sad place for a lot of people who will ultimately realize that no amount of self-indulgence actually fill the existential hole they have in their heart.

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I recommend reading up on the scientific studies done by Gad Saad AKA the Gadfather. He gives evolutionary psychology reasons for all of this.

Feminism is connected with cultural relativism and the ignorance of facts in favor of feelings. Now feelings are valuable... and at times perhaps valuable than facts. This ties back to Thinking, Fast and Slow, which is the research of Nobel Economics Laureate Daniel Kahneman. System 1 thinking is fast and based on feelings, while system 2 thinking is slow and based on logic. In life or death emergency situation, feeling will help you survive better than thinking critically.

There is undeniable research evidence that even baby male monkeys prefer playing with trucks over playing with dolls, and that baby female monkeys prefer playing with dolls over trucks. Testosterone fuels hunting over gathering and engineering over gardening. The differences between male and female hobby and career choices are inherent in biology. Of course, this is more of a generalized trend than absolute rule, but on average, there is a real biological reason why women are less likely to go into computer engineering than men and that men are less likely to go into sociology than women. Humans are born with inherent cognitive biases. We are not completely blank slates as the cultural relativist school of thought will have you believe. All human behaviors are a mixture of nature and nurture.

It is good that feminists appreciate the value of nurture and feelings, but it is very damaging when they bash nature and logic. There needs to be an yin-yang balance between the different ways that humans perceive their environments and form their metaphysical understanding of the world. When you apply only one frame of perspective to all situations in life, you will inherently increase your confirmation bias and arrive at faulty explanations of observed phenomenon.

So in a sense, patriarchy does exist and conflicts with the interests of feminists. Yet patriarchy was needed for the advancement of civilization. In a purely matriarchy society, we would still be stuck in tribal warfare stone age. The struggle between patriarchy and matriarchy can be seen as the struggle between nationalism and tribalism. The matriarch believes in the importance of blood ties and personal favors, because her focus is more on feelings. The patriarch believes in the importance of rules, ideas, and logic, because his focus is more on thinking. A balance needs to be struck between both ways of life to maximize human productivity and happiness.

Yin Yang is not woo woo BS, it is the ancient way of describing the set of traits associated with estrogen and testosterone without knowledge of modern technical terms. We see today that men have a bit of estrogen and women have a bit of testosterone, so the analogy is more profound than most people initially perceive.

What feminists should be doing is embracing the comparative advantages of femininity and building up the power of the positive yin energy. However, they adopted the communist philosophy of bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator by applying negative yang energy instead to bring down the patriarchy.

I'm 100% against the negative yang influences of modern day feminism, but I'm willing to help building up the positive yin influences of the altruistic matriarchy and finding a way to synergize it with the positive yang influences of the patriarchy to benefit all of mankind.

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You lost a follower in me.

The video is hilarious. But that's the height of it.

How does having a "Slut Walk" or an International "Free the Nipples Day" actually empowering for women?

The slut walks were started by university students. They were a protest against the authorities who blamed rape victims by telling the girls not to dress so provocatively!

Free the nipple is not empowering. It's liberating, because we free ourselves from caring about your judgement!

"feminism" is, at the very core, the power of women to chose their path. A power that man have and had since forever.
Your post smells too much of mansplanation to me, "look ladies, maybe feminism is bad for you!!". Yeah, maybe it is for some, isn't for other, but the choice is what matters.

mansplanation...that's a word now? I imagine it's a term people learn in feminist study class these days. Feminism isn't about choice anymore, that's long gone. Now that there isn't any dragons to slay in the west for the cause of equal rights, it's mostly about giving a free pass to make bad choices without regards for the consequences on society. Just read buzzfeed, gawker or jezebel and ask yourself if the stuff they promote under the "feminist" banner actually in women's best interest.

Well, I guess you don't know that I'm in the EAST here. Also, I took economics and programming in college so your guess is as good as mine but deridind a term doesn't make it less powerful.


It is a word and it has a very specific meaning, irregardless of your opinion.
No more dragons to slay? Ah, goodie, now that women have equal rights, earn just as much, have the same opportunities as men, we should rest.
Thanks for the tip, man. I did not realize this utopia was out of beta in the West.
As I said, eastern-european here, forgive my ignorance.

I didn't know you are in the East. Mansplaining is a stupid word in my opinion when you could just use condescending...without adding the specific gender to it. If I pay a women less than a men for the same job here, it's a straight ticket to jail or a huge fine...and when it comes to jail, women gets 1/3 the sentence men do for the same crime. So I would say, it's out of beta here.

I sure want all women to have equal rights all over the world, but I don't wish for what comes after the big battles are won.

My apologize then and a warm welcome to check out my posts, although you might not enjoy them as we seem to have different opinions on some big stuff.
But, as it happens, there's always common ground: I , too, worry about what comes after the big battles are won!

Femsplain: v., informal. To tell a man he has no right to hold an opinion, even less to express it, because, gender equality and equal rights for all. Generally includes some cliché phrase like "not all feminists are like that" or "you just don't understand feminism". All joking aside though, you may want to read the following article to give you some perspective on why young people in the West (men in particular) have very legitimate reasons to question third-wave feminism. http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/robyn-urback-if-this-is-the-new-womens-movement-its-no-wonder-girls-dont-want-to-call-themselves-feminists

you're a feminist?

i wouldn't say that about myself but a lot of what i think is fair seems ot be in line with same wave of feminism...which wave exactly i am not sure :) why?

oh, I just hope you don't go crazy

yeah. don't worry about me. worry about holding a view without scrutinizing it first.

This is also another informative article which showcases why university aged men in Canada are becoming less and less supportive of the feminist movement. As is evidenced by many student unions, it is no longer about equal opportunities, but legislated preferential treatment for females. http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/robyn-urback-on-shocking-anti-male-hatred-on-the-sfu-campus

@razvanelulmarin: I agree with you. If men and women put more effort into complementing and trying to understand and help each other, rather than trying to compete with and one-up each other, we would all be better off.

let me re-state: MAN VS WOMAN is a stupid war that should stop and fueled by extremist on both sides. I am not one. I hope you aren't either.

I think one of the issues is that the 3rd wave feminists attempt to make sexism appear worse than it is in the West. I don't disagree that a lot of progress still needs to be made in some other regions of the world.

You'll hear that feminism is about gender equality "by definition", but no real effort is made by their movement to help men when they're worse off. You hear much less from the men's rights movement for issues of similar importance. Also, keep in mind that dictionaries don't define words, culture does. By the looks of it, the two to have diverged over time.

Take this recent example from Canada's prime minister:

(See that comment in its entirety here)

Again, progress can be made for both men and women. It's just not clear to me that the issues women face in western countries are as bad as their vocal representatives make them seem to be relative to men's issues.

What's your take on that? - I'm up for discussion at any time in the chat if you're interested in exploring these controversial statements further!

see my reply above. femnism got a bad rep because extremist are most vocals. so with redpillers on the man side.

The media gives the extremists the stage.

Just wondering if you would let men say womansplanation?

it is not surprising that 'feminism' is taking a bashing in THIS warmongering world which also is ecocidal. After all since ancient times Earth was thought of as Mother. So it is no coincidence that to criticize 'feminism' fits well with carry-on-as-usual trashing the Mother, which is matricide!

But it is also how the mostly male feminist-bashers always lump 'feminism' into one bin, as though of not being aware there are different types JUST as there are in 'masculinism' (oh look I just made up a new term), and some groups have critiqued other groups.

Example, critiquing feminists who do not include women of colour.

There is Eco feminism, and so on.

But the bottom line is this: The attack ON the feminine is not some thing dreamt up by elite men, like Bernays. What arrogance. But goes wayyyy back, and right to the heart of the deep psyche. The presumed 'masculine consciousness', presumed by ancient philosophers fearful and against the 'feminine body', and 'female unconsciousness', animals, and the whole natural world. Seen as a trap for the 'masculine superior rational mind'.

it goes DEEP!

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@williambanks said so many things so well, I cannot add much. There is no battle for supremacy to be had, only understanding, or at least acceptance and harmony, to be won, and then much more.

I noticed this, though:

The attack ON the feminine [...] goes wayyyy back, and right to the heart of the deep psyche.

If it is psychopathologizing, the sword cuts both ways equally well.

An image was once conveyed, I do not know which way, of the Yin and Yang, where the black has a small white spot and vice versa. The "female unconsciousness" has the potential of much greater, more thorough and "natural", because untapped and untrained, consciousness than that of any male, and it can and will force the conscious male into an unconsciousness much deeper and more perfect than that of any female. Which is how constant oscillation around perfect balance is achieved in this weird "game", as often as it is played.

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I think Bernays' appeal to women was done directly for his tobacco clients, but was done indirectly to promote the new Keynesian ideal coming into play around that time that ever-rising levels of consumption were necessary for economic growth. John Maynard Keynes was addressing women because he saw them as the family "shoppers" and he would tell them directly on radio to go out and shop for the good of Britain (his economic views were also adopted in the U.S., especially by FDR). One aspect of early feminism was to get the gender more likely to shop to enter the workforce so families, under the females' financial direction, could drastically increase their consumption levels.

Great post. I don't necessarily agree with all your points. I think feminism has been hijacked and used by various groups to push their own self-interests and agendas. This happens with any big issue but it does not mean that the initial motivation or principles were not sound.

In some ways equality for women or anyone else will have downsides. Being able to decide your own fate and make your own decisions always does. That does not make it a failure though.

Also thanks for talking about Edward Bernays - your article illustrates what a genius and master of human psychology he was.

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Feminism is feel-good bullshit. Same type of language propaganda as the words "racism" and "anti-american".

People are more occupied with what other people are thinking and doing than they are with their own life.

I support equality for everyone, but I see feminism as nothing more than a tool to create division. It's an excuse for women to act oppressed and avoid real issues. NEWSFLASH, we're ALL oppressed! Let's move onto the critical issues at hand instead of talking about how you're pissed that a man looked at your boobs, or that you're single at 48 because you're a woman.

Women are amazing and beautiful, but they (as well as most men) need to start looking at the bigger picture here.

This is (mostly) what I've been saying for some time. Traditional feminists have been duped by men to assist men in suppressing true female power.

I cannot understand how you can make this statement, and then argue the point that you made on my post...

Am I misreading something, or are you misreading something?

I don't see any inconsistency. My statement in your prior post was the evolution has granted the sexes differs "inherent" advantages. For females, one such advantages is the relative scarcity of their eggs, and therefore their sexual desirability to the male. But women have been systematically deprived of this power over the ages by men. Men have sought (via religion, social custom, and laws) to regulate and dictate the manner in which female sexual power can be expressed.

Due to this systematic repression, some women (namely traditional feminists) have come to associate sexuality with repression instead of sex with power (not realizing that sex is repressed only BECAUSE it's powerful). So, rather than encourage women to break the bonds of oppression and market their sex appeal (and I don't just mean literally selling sex) the same way a man markets his brawn, these feminist actively shame women who exploit their sexuality. In short, traditional feminists inadvertently aid and abet men in restricting self-interested female sexual expression.

Thank you for your response. I'm not big into evolution theory when it comes to sexuality because of it's resistance to homosexuality, but this gives me a much better understanding of your point of view.

And I agree with you, some feminism has gone the wrong way around sexuality in shaming women for exploiting it. My post failed to get the point across that this is something I'm very much against. I find myself in the grey area between the arguments of "sexual exploitation" and "sexual liberation" that's why I wrote the post. I had hoped it wouldn't come across one sided.

Perhaps you saw it that way because of the one thing we disagree on which is about how much power sexuality holds. The reason I say perhaps we have some power, followed by the more often statement I think you were offended by, is because I do agree with you that sexuality is powerful, however it is a power that is often used against us. And personally I believe it's not men who hold that power against us, it's a world that values men over women. This includes women and even hypocritical feminists.

Oh, I see where you are coming from now. I didn't meant to suggest by my comment that I agreed with the portions of the original post indicating that liberating female sexuality does not empower women. I only agree with the portion of the post that feminist have been duped into assisting men in repressing women. That's why I included the word "mostly" in my comment.

This is reassuring.

hey @beanz you win!,
im not going to flagg anything you commented or posted. I find it morally wrong. it will not stop me from doing wat I do and calling people out with their bullshit. I provided links based to facts for everything you tried to call me out on and then you stopped responding and just started flagging a bunch of my stuff for "abuse" but when asked what was abusive in it you go silent and continue flagging.

good job! you flagged bunch of posts that in no way were insults or abusive. hope you feel proud of yourself. have fun trying to silence people you disagree with. im sure in the future we will have more time for you to flagg more of my stuff.

I have notified you that I muted you.

I will continue to flag every comment you fill my reply box with. You know perfectly well I do not wish to engage with you.

wow, you just don't stop with the flagging do you?

I agree with you. If I am a woman, why would I want to do manly things? Wouldn't I want to promote those things that only women can do? Motherhood is the most amazing experience of my life. Wouldn't I feel like a more awesome woman to see my children grow up happy and well adjusted?

But wait, isn't that what makes a real man happy too? To see his children grow up happy, well-adjusted?

Isn't that what life is all about: to be happy? Happiness, I think, is harder to find outside a family.

Life is not a one player game. It is meant to be lived together.

There is nothing only a woman can do other than bear a child for somebody else. Men are parents too.

Respectfully, @cryptoctopus, I think your argument is built upon several non sequiturs. For instance, it does not follow that liberating female sexuality will result in more STDs and more unwanted pregnancies. In fact, the rates of both have dropped precipitously over the last couple of decades.

Also, I don't get why you don't get that liberating female sexuality is incredibly empowering for women. Most women (of a reasonable age and who have taken reasonable care of themselves) have what most every man wants most. And yet, society systematically deprives them of the ability to actively market and monetize that asset. A few women reject these societal limitations, exploit the system, and make a killing, but the vase majority stay "stuck" in a system where their sexuality is actively repressed and regulated.

Interesting, those few who do choose to systematically exploit their sexuality (and I'm talking about celebrities here) usually take far, far better care of their bodies than average. Rates of unwanted pregnancy, STDs, obesity, etc. are far less among those who make a living from exploiting their sexuality.

Good shit yo! gave upvote

Interesting, thought provoking post. I did a piece on Bernays here https://steemit.com/propaganda/@kreativ/bacon-women-smokers-and-propaganda and also someone else who I feel is the real Godfather of Propaganda...ahem...PR
https://steemit.com/psychology/@kreativ/the-godfather-of-pr-crowd-psychology-and-steemit
I hope you don't mind me posting these links in the comments...I just think they are relevant to what you are saying.
Although I feel in some ways women have indeed benefited from feminism (depending on how you define it) over the years...it has also lead us down a somewhat unknown and perhaps in some ways...dangerous path.

Interesting, thanks for the share. Useful idiots I particularly liked learning about the meaning and the term

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Now go to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, maybe you'll understand. Not guaranteed.

HAHA (LANGUAGE WARNING) XD not what I was expecting, bravo!