RE: If you can't beat them

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If you can't beat them

in fiction •  7 years ago 

Do we expect the best runner in the world to pull up and give other the opportunities to win every once in a while? No, instead we tell the others to work harder and maybe next time you can win. It won't be easy, actually it will be really hard work but if you put in the effort you will have a better chance.

The concept that those who have are bad and have done anything wrong is a fundamental flaw in the mindset of those that don't have what they want.

If someone wants more they need to put in the efforts and make the sacrifices needed to get there.

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Running is a finite game that ends as soon as you cross the finish line. In life, there is no finish line and no winning. Success is not determined by hard work but by a combination of luck and hard work. There will be people who put little effort into anything and be at the top while others who work passionately who get nothing. It's nice that people believe enough hard work will fix their problems when society doesn't value hard work, it values survival, happiness, and hedonism.

The game of life will never be fair. Some people get a head start, others are born at the finish line. Hard work can win you a race because everyone starts at the same starting point. That's not truth of life. The rich get richer. The poor stay poor (but slowly get wealthier via technology over generations). And the lucky or unlucky move from these classes.

If some wants more, they indeed need to put in the efforts. But they also have to hope that fortune is their side.

@greer184 I try not to argue, but in this case I'm going to present a very different view of the world. Knowing people who have come from nothing, gang stricken neighborhoods to become financially free and then people who have come from affluent families with all the best schooling who became poor there is just zero factual basis to what you have said. Just because some rich get richer doesn't mean the fact they started rich was why they got richer or it would mean all rich people would get richer which isn't true. If being poor means you are condemned to a life of being poor then there would never be poor people who become someone, again just not fact. This is a discussion of Causation.

Working hard without first learning what to work at will not yield results. If all you know how to do is flip burgers it will not matter how hard you work at flipping burgers.

If you work hard by taking classes to improve yourself while still flipping burgers you now are in a position to improve your situation via hard work. You then need to take your new skills and work hard at that instead of flipping burgers. Those new skills aren't a stopping point of learning, they are just a starting point. You need to keep learning (and applying) new skills to keep improving your station in life.

Is there luck, sure to a point. But most "lucky" people made their own luck by hard work you just never saw. People say I'm lucky all the time, but they don't see me working until 2am while they sleep. They don't see me at 40 still learning new things. They don't see the money, time, and efforts made so I can create my "luck"

Life is without question different then a single race, but your life is rather filled with many races. Some of these races are sprints that require all out effort for a short period of time and others are marathons that require consistent effort over a long period of time to achieve success.

"Life is not fair" is an excuse and excuses are for those that want a way to justify why they didn't achieve their goals. At that "goals" isn't correct as most people don't have goals, they have dreams.

Goals are written down, have a time frame, and can be measured. Dreams live in your head and while fun aren't anything of value except maybe providing some hope. Until those dreams become goals nothing will happen with them. People like to argue this, but habits of successful people show they all have written goals.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

People who work harder simply get more lottery tickets than those that don't work hard. Sure there are rich people who become poor and poor people that become rich, but my point is that the rich person needs less lucky breaks to go their way than someone with a poorer background. The mean expectation of prosperity is higher on average for the wealthy than those that don't have wealth.

Life is filled with randomness. One could acquire all the skills in the world and spend all their time working but then die in a car accident. Probabilistically, you are correct when those that work hard get better returns, but that is simply because they are producing more chances of having fortunate apply to them. There is no guarantee of prosperity and the probabilities are skewed in favor of some and skewed to the detriment of others.

People are not born with a work ethic. They have to learn this. Many people are not lucky enough to acquire the skills and mentoring to develop one. A lot of it depends on where you start. I could have been born in plenty of different environments where I would lack this perspective.

"Life is not" fair is not an excuse for me, but a reality I accept. I understand people can use it as an excuse, but just because the race isn't fair doesn't mean that it is not worth running.

I value the lottery ticket. But that doesn't mean I will ever achieve my goals. I could die in my sleep tonight. And a person who flips burgers who wins the actual lottery on their first try and spends it responsibly fundamentally puts less work in than the burger flipper who acquires new skills who doesn't win but is more prosperous. Something like that happening is unlikely, but still possible.

I don't really care about "habits of successful people" as they are written down by people trying to sell their viewpoint for a quick buck. All I need to do is execute and get me my "lottery" tickets and wait until I win something. Hard work, which probabilistically will pay off, but then again it might not. I could always be on the wrong end of misfortune.

I'm not sure how any of this has no basis in reality. Nothing in the world is a certainty, but the environment does play a role and the initial environment that all people start in is based in randomness and luck.

I don't really care about "habits of successful people" as they are written down by people trying to sell their viewpoint for a quick buck.

This is exactly the mindset that makes reaching goals challenging and holds people back in life. A book written 100 years ago can change your life today, but clearly that dead person clearly only cares about making a quick buck and nothing of value to offer.

If you want to add randomness of accidents or lottery as part of how you plan life then sure there is that type of luck. Personally those aren't things that are part of my life plan other then having insurance in case I die young my family will be financially secure.

It's very important to know the difference between the things you can control and those you can't.

The concept that those who have are bad and have done anything wrong is a fundamental flaw in the mindset of those that don't have what they want.

Agreed. People generally make their judgements on what is seen through their own jaded experiences. Rarely do they consider the effort or sacrifice involved.

Exactly. Those experiences create our own filters. Some of them are very hard to change and take a lot of effort to get a better view of the world. Every single word you hear in a day passes through those filters and we hear what we think the person meant going as far as dropping entire words from what we heard to make it fit into our perception of reality.

yea , that's not the same thing tho. Life and running are two different things. although most people are chasing something their entire life.