RE: How to refute a claim of evidence for a conspiracy theory. Case study: a perspective on flat earth

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How to refute a claim of evidence for a conspiracy theory. Case study: a perspective on flat earth

in flatearth •  8 years ago 

Hi @ehall!

Do any of those NASA photographs convince you of their achievement,

No, none of the NASA photographs convince me, but that is besides the point. Please note that I was not making any statement about the theory as a whole!

I took a single, specific, concrete claim of evidence in its support and tested its veracity.

Please consider also the PS, which contains a link that (seemingly) supports the theory, to provide balance.


Thank you for the video. Two claims are easily refuted here.

The first claim is that the moon should appear to become bigger as it crosses the face of the planet, as its orbit is circular. But the segment of the circle is so short (~5h/~28d = 0.0149 ≙ 5.36°) that it would be unreasonable to expect any huge effect due to the curvature.

The second claim is that the relation of the sizes is not right. I shortly mentioned it but didn't go more in-depth in my post. The point is this: side-by side, the ratio should be ~3.67. BUT in the picture, the satellite is allegedly 1,500,000 km away from earth, but the moon is ~384,403 km away from earth, which means only 1,115,597 km away from the camera - ~25% closer! That easily explains why the moon "looks too big". Without doubt, from a hundred and a thousand miles out, the ratio would get closer and closer to 3.67, as the objects in the foreground "shrink faster" when moving the camera away than those in the background.

From a standpoint of intellectual honesty, these are not claims that should be made in support of flat earth or NASA fakery, they are too weak.

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  ·  8 years ago (edited)

hi @akareyon

I appreciate that you do math to solve a problem, but this problem of the "Earthrise" photographic data, and other aerospace data not verified, is it could be manipulated. bit.do/fakeimage What images are you claiming are really taken from space? I'm asking also because it seems that it is philosophically impossible to render the Earth as an object of knowledge, and it seems physically impossible something like outer space exists. bit.do/earthnotanobject

What images are you claiming are really taken from space?

I don't claim any pictures are taken from outer space :) It seems to be possible to make many photos from the distance of a few dozen kilometers from the surface and stitch them together with photoshop and layer them onto a sphere in a raytrace renderer, as the last link in the post demonstrates has been done for the most famous "Blue Marble" "'"photo"'".