I apologize for the lack of a reliable source to give credit to, not my pic. Listening open-minded to flat earthers I am beginning to think the Earth is not flat or a sphere. Maybe there is something fundamentally flawed with our mathematics system? Maybe there is an untruth at the core of physics? Maybe the flat earthers know the round earth theory so well that they can dissect it easily? I will not know until I get up into space or can see a long distance on a clear day from one island to another. I would say a clear day, a great telescope, and two islands about 150 miles apart and I will know who is correct. We have believed the earth is round since forever, so that argument is kind of against to me. Phlogeston was a really good scientific explanation for all of chemistry before Boyle, so maybe the earth is 4D, we are not seeing it, we are both wrong?
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reality is a gyroscopes, properly configured to be free moving, will stay steady.
that violates globe earth, it would rotate 360 every 24 hours if globe theory was true.
suez canal is 100 miles long and completely flat connecting two oceans together. if the earth was round there would have been some drop noticable as water always finds its level....
but then again, that is another problem with globe earth theory.. a curved mirror would reflect the moon/sun at a specific point, yet we see the long line reflected on a calm lake. there would be some curve on a lake if it where true.
look at how the suns rays show thru clouds sometimes, in which you can clearly see the rays go in different directions, indicating a light source relatively close.
if it was globe, and sun so far away, the light rays would be straight down.
this video is great proof. so many proofs, and not a single proof for globe earth that doesn't come from nasa, those cgi masters.
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I am halfway through and this has yet to account for atmosphere...pretty crappy proof. There a great arguments from both sides, also most people are predisposed to side with globe theory even though they have not been off of the Earth to see. I again propose that neither theory is correct.
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gyroscopes. address that.
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Gyroscopic precession is a little counterintuitive bit here goes: rotational force exerts another force called torque. Torque works through the axis of the spining object against other forces. Centripedal force is the opposite of centrifugal force. Thus the floating pendulum of Foucalt has the exact same mathematical principals as the gyroscope. Does that help?
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i understand the concept, i don't agree with the conclusions.
a gyroscope doesn't move. this pendulum appears too.
a pendulum does, why does it? globe earth people claim they know, but it doesn't match a gyroscope that is suppose to be the same.
i can only conclude that, they are not the same...
possibly the pendulum is flowing the sun's electromagnetic force.
you see, depending on what you set out to explain it as, each can be used, and each can come to a conclusion that appears to support it.
but the gyroscope, it should behave in one way (by rotate 360 degree every 24 hours) but it doesn't. we can understand that, the pendulum could easily be controlled by an outside magnetic force, either via trickery or outside source... but clearly the same force claimed, ie the rotation of the earth does not effect the gyroscope...
so in science, we observe they are not the same, so whoever, and however this came to be common knowledge... it is wrong.
just like the ships going over the horizon, provably false, yet still is used as proof by many in the globe/flat earth debate.
overtime, i've come to find globe earther's ignore facts, or try to explain them away with words.
my common sense tells me that truth becomes clear, and lies fall apart... and the globe earth false apart under scrutiny.
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Friction. The math behind them is correct, but thermodynamics is applied to the physics. A gyro in a vacuum eventually dies too, just not in a human lifetime. Also "Sea Level" is a lot of different things in a lot of different places. In Florida it is feet lower than Maine, in Cali it is higher than both. Not sure if that is for or against the flat theory, but water is never "level."
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the gryo doesn't move. that is significant.
the globe earth model would predict it rotates 360 degrees every 24 hours.
but it doesn't. it just sits there and spins, until friction stops it.
no, no it isn't. tide rise and fall (and we don't know why, because gravity doesn't explain it how a smaller object is overriding the gravity of the larger.. these theories literally contradict themselves)
don't know where you heard that garbage, but that is false as it gets.
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A Doctorate in fluid tension dynamics explained it to me. It is nt "garbage. " I really cannot hold a conversation with someone who resorts to Ad Hominem or any other fallacious arguments. Not to say you outright lost the round, simply that you are not capable of debate.
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Take it easy PB. A lack of training in classical logic is regular nowadays and there are no real insults here.
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you are appealing to authority...
you are not holding a conversation, your attempting to talk over my head.
but i know what you said doesn't make any sense.
no, i'm just saying your wrong, flat out.
you claim your right, i'm saying you don't know what your talking about, then you tell me you don't because you got it from
there is such a thing as water tension, which is why water droplets form.. .but it doesn't apply to large lake or ocean.
go back to your friend, find out what he means, because you obviously didn't get it right.
then find a way to say it and prove it without saying 'because i'm so smart, you don't get it'
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Read the piece on Foucalt's Pendulum in full if you are able to look at that. It behaves along the same mathematical premises as a gyroscope coming to a stop. In different parts of the world both simple machines act differently. Yet the exact motion can be predicted bases on its placement on the face of the earth. The math is relatively simple and predicts the same behavior from the object resisting gravity (gyro) and the object succumbing to gravity (pendulum). The Earth's oceans are not an exact "egg" because of land masses. Other planets have exact "egg" masses of water. When we look really far away, through a telescope or microscope, the theories break down. Molecules larger than mountains within neutrino stars or super-symmetric z-bosons tell us that our math and science are fundamentally wrong to begin with. Google sea level variances, sea level is not one thing.
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Okie, gotta admit I might have been wrong. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/globalsl.html There is no explanation of the sea level variance and it has only been published (mostly) by one government organization. It was verbally explained to me, and in an elegant manner, but I have not seen actual evidence. This is a probably a flat earth point, with so little info. Like NASA took 2 pictures of the planet Earth in 70 years? Why? Not siding, but the variable sea level has data showing the measurement, but incomplete data showing the variable. Explanation: No real science to explain......
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As far as I can say time is integral to most conceptions of reality. It might have been created in the late 1800's as a gimmick to sell wristwatches, I was not around then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum
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that is a pendulum. they claim they know why it does what it does.. that or it is a gigantic magic trick.
but they can't explain why a gyroscope stays stationary when globe theory says it would rotate every 24 hours by 360 degrees.
since it doesn't, then we aren't moving.
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I do not quite see what you are saying here. A gyroscope acts slightly different, depending upon where it is on the face of the Earth. A gyro by definition is rotating or it falls. Are you speaking of revolution?
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this is what i mean, a gyroscope, spinning and holding position in perfect equilibrium. this should be impossible on globe earth, because of the rotation of the earth.
but the gyroscope, once properly setup, will just sit there an not move. i didn't watch this whole video, not vouching for its entirety, but it appears he set it up like i understand and then video taped it not moving.
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