Steem is censorship free, so anybody can post anything. Only the flagging system can come into play, and even if that happens, then the story is still there to be read by anyone.
I agree with @craig-grant on this: https://steemit.com/freedom/@craig-grant/fake-news-and-pizzagate-on-the-steem-blockchain
My blog is a philosophical experiment.
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This post I "Power Up 100%".
Oh I'll be the one to decide whether Steemit doesn't have censorship :D
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I dont understand your comment, so I flagged it, also to illustrate the flagging system to people that havnt seen it yet.
Steem on!
Lasse
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And I've flagged you for abusing the flag system.. Come on dude. You know better. lol
edit: removed the flag as you removed the flag on his initial post. <3
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hehehe now I am confused, his comment does not make sense to me ???
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Just because you don't understand a concept or comment isn't grounds to flag it.
These are the rules. I didn't make them up. I merely enforce them.
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Well.. actually there is:
His comment isn't fraudulent, hate speech, trolling or spam.
You aren't supposed to flag it. That is what the rules are.
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Well there are no clear rules for the flagging system, he could have clarified his comment and thereby given me the option to withdraw my flag ??? He can still do that...
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I see his comment as "Intentional miscategorized" or something like that, but it could be that he have a constructive point, @lethn please let us know what you meant with that comment.
Also I think "fuck finger" is always inappropriate :)
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What he is saying is "I will be the one who decides if I am censored or not" I believe.
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@kyle gladdening to see what you are doing
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I removed the flag on the original comment, I still think he never told what he meant, but its no big deal:
maybe I was too fast to flag, but he draw the "fuck finger", which is inappropriate, anyway I think the post prove tje point about censorship/flagging
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Just to give my two cents. I do agree that flagging the first comment on "deciding whether Steemit doesn't have censorship" was a little hasty. I can read how it could be taken in a poor light, but in the end I personally would have chalked it up to a more sarcastic statement where the intention was lost in the text. Personally, I'm glad to see you removed the flag on that.
I will say though that the middle finger graphic, even though (I'm assuming) in response to the original flag, was over my personal line and potentially worthy of a flag (even though I'm not going to do that.)
Situations like these (imo) require a better response than a 'middle finger.' Simply responding with 'Why?' or a brief line stating that it was just meant to be funny would have gone a lot farther. There's really not a good reason to just stoke the flames when an easy resolution can be made.
Communication is the key
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Unfortunately attempts like that to use the flag system will always result in the middle finger response because that's all people who attempt to do abuse the system will do, seems to me like it's quite flawed if it's already been abused that easily.
You're relying on people's good faith not to abuse a system that they can apply whenever they want, if you ask me, it's fine if you want to have some kind of system to remove spammers and such. That's it, you can't flag people for 'intent' that crosses the very dangerous line of thought crime, words can't fucking hurt anyone physically, they do nothing, cyber bullying isn't real and you guys are going to have to figure out a way to prevent the mob from taking over and abusing this platform by censoring anybody they don't like which they will attempt to do.
I guarantee you that once the SJWs find this platform, they will abuse the crap out of it, it will be a great test to see how well the creators can stick with free speech but one thing I have realised is that with social networks and communities in general you can no longer operate on a feelings based moderation policy.
Get rid of the spammers and virus posters and you'll do fine, the moment you start policing thought though, this platform is utterly screwed as you will alienate others from speaking freely, which would be a shame, because I'm starting to like it.
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I'm no advocating policing thought. For me it's a matter of adding value. While I can understand why the finger was put up, it doesn't attempt to actually solve what I read as a 'misunderstanding.'
Those that do get flagged down often will have their rep drop, making them less able to have an effect on others and at certain levels have their posts grayed out. It's not ideal, but it's the solution that was chosen to attempt to let the community decide.
Again, I didn't flag anything here, even the finger. Purely adding my two cents.
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Deciding what posts are 'valuable' or not is policing thought, because you're essentially saying that if a post you specifically don't think is worthwhile it shouldn't be seen. That is censorship and policing thought, people who make these kinds of comments don't actually believe in free speech like they claim to.
By making it all about you and what posts you find valuable, you're going to be preventing people from posting things that people might otherwise find interesting or perhaps simply not care about enough to censor.
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We will probably just have differing views on this. Imo deciding whether to apply value or not is independent from actually removing the post entirely. Even when it's not given a payout, it's still there.
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Interesting discussion here on my post, thanks for that!
I will add, that I see Steem as censorship-free, as posts/comments can only be flagged and there will be a public "competition" to wheater or not a post/comment will be "hidden in gray" or not.
In the end even a "hidden in gray" post/comment, is still there, as @sykochica write.
Its a huge difference compared to any centralized social media, where things can disappear with no warning, no explanation and no one can see who removed it!
Steem on!
Lasse
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