This video had me crying I was laughing so hard - Le Pen? Seriously? I Literally Can’t Even You Guys!

in funny •  8 years ago 

I don't typically share a video without saying something and having a lot of other things to share, but this video has my wiping tears out of my eyes due to laughing.

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That was just brilliant - thank you for sharing this - I follow the French elections in news stories I have been writing and the skullduggery is amazing! Now the Russians are involved as Putin sponsored Le Pen's Party. Upped for you my friend!

Yeah I found this right before I had to join a group for Friday Night gaming, and I had to share it. I don't usually drop videos without a bunch of commentary or my own thoughts, but this one I couldn't pass up.

Sorry, nothing personal, dwinblood, but I flagged this because (as I stated elsewhere to you) I don't think people should be rewarded for posting other people's work. If there were a like button that didn't reward, I'd click that, but this isn't (gasp) Facebook. No offense, ok?

Good video, though, although I didn't laugh at all.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

You are welcome to use your votes as you wish, but there are technically no rules against sharing content (such as funny videos and memes) as long as you are not breaking any copyright laws or trying to claim the work as your own.

Thank you, and I am aware there are no rules against sharing content. I had previously expressed to the OP that I believe that content such as this doesn't deserve to be rewarded. The author of the work deserves to be rewarded. This is very similar in context to many creators on YouTube who have their work stolen in one way or another by individuals and companies who profit without recompensing the creators, although I do not mean to imply that the OP intended to do so (I have no idea, honestly). To post someone else's work and then accept rewards for doing so is, in effect, a form of theft, unless that money is then sent on to the creator of the work. It is a matter of ethics, and I am sure you can appreciate it if you put yourself in the shoes of the creators who've had their work stolen for profit.

When I share such content, I do not want to be rewarded, either. I do so for the benefit of the community. I shall have to remember, in the future, to put a comment on such shares not to upvote it. It's a pity that there is no "like" button that will get a post attention without earning money.

If I'm not clear, please do feel free to ask - and thank you for taking the time to comment!

Out of curiosity, because I'm a bit unsure myself, do you happen to know what the copyright laws say about someone earning money by sharing someone else's work without permission? I'm pretty sure it is illegal, but I could be wrong.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

doing so is, in effect, a form of theft,

In a matter of fact that isn't true. If someone is rewarded for sharing ideas it is not akin to theft, it is just a reward for sharing those ideas. Now if we could take the idea (in this case the video) away from computingforever's channel on Youtube in a way he wouldn't have it anymore. That would be theft.

I strongly disagree with the claim that when someone's potential revenues MAY get reduced (which more likely isn't the case) for copying or sharing his work, that consitutes a theft. It would mean that whenever someone simply downvotes your comments on steem and your potential revenue gets smaller that's a theft too. And that just isn't the case.

Thank you for sharing, gamer00. My comments are based upon the comments YouTube creators, and also on patents. The two primary complaints I've seen are actual theft of the creation (eg: a high-speed video was edited to show just the part a company wanted to use, with no attribution or royalties to the creator), and loss of revenues because of being displayed on other platforms that don't return revenues to the creator - in that case, Facebook. The creators were LOSING revenues, which were being taken via direct theft of the creation or via non-compensated viewing on other sites, and their complaints were (at the time of making the complaint videos) ignored. When a creator loses revenues, and those revenues go to another party, that is theft.

Put it another way: You make an original painting. Someone duplicates it and sells it as an original, which is clearly illegal according to existing laws on artwork. They do not recompense you, although they do sell it as your product. You have lost the revenues from YOUR work, while that person pockets the money, minus expenses. That is the same basic thing as posting other people's videos and getting money "for sharing them", but it is worse because, whereas selling that forged painting is a one-time sale, this is repeat business (on steemit, until the payout period is finished).

I do not agree with your final sentence and it is a different issue.

Thanks for taking the time to give your input. Only by communicating our thoughts can we improve steemit.

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That's a valid viewpoint. There is a way as a poster to create a post with rewards declined. It is up to each author to decide if they want to post that way, but based on what you are saying it sounds like something that you would want to do if sharing that type of content.

Your question is a really good one, and I don't know the answer.

I could be wrong on this, but I would expect that when a website like Steemit (or Facebook) shows a YouTube video - that it still counts towards the original YouTube poster's views and advertising revenue (assuming they have it setup to monetize). Sharing the link on somewhere like Steemit or Facebook is still helpful to the original poster in that sense.

Whether it is ethical for someone who shared a link to the content to get paid for sharing it is a very interesting question for the community to decide.

You should think of writing a post about it. I think it would make for a good discussion.

Thanks for telling me about the option to decline payout.

In the past, I have seen videos from creators on YouTube complaining that Facebook steals their rewards. I don't understand how that happens, or if it was ever corrected on Facebook. As far as I understand, who gets paid depends entirely on how a referring platform is designed. I have no idea if steemit is programmed correctly or not.

My wife is in the process of dying, so it will probably be a few days before I feel up to tackling an article about this. Thanks for the comments!

Sorry to hear about your wife :(

I usually if I am sharing other people's work I add a lot of my own commentary and I form kind of a post around it. It then becomes more of a review, and or me sharing my thoughts based around how something inspired me. I didn't have the time needed to do that when I found this, and had I not shared it I would have forgotten.

Also, I do not plagiarize. So I did not take credit for someone elses work. I am fine with you not voting though. You didn't flag it. I appreciate the comment. I've NOT REWARDED things a lot too. How you handled it is how I wish everyone would handle things they don't think should be up voted. Simply don't vote on them. Thanks again...

I didn't mean to imply that you plagiarize(d). If you had written a substantive article based on or supported by the video, I probably would've upvoted it.

Yeah, I don't mind you didn't vote on it. At least you didn't flag it. :) I didn't actually put it up for votes. I just put it out there because I thought it was amusing and I knew some people might enjoy it. :)

Awesome :D

good posting...^^

I stopped when the voice said "I don't know why the email story was a big deal". If you aren't aware of the concept of "attack vector", you should probably avoid to be in the internet. Sometimes I wish there was something like a driving license to use internet, like for cars.....

It was a PARODY... the entire thing is a joke.

Being honest, I've heard people writing things like that more than once during the campaign, so if that is a parody, it was very , very close to reality....

Yeah it was more like a The Onion article type thing.

Yes it was really close to reality, yet I believe the guy was intentionally exaggerating it. :)