Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I find roleplaying, like what you describe here, to be within the deep end of the imagination. While on a surface level, we might gaze with awe at the flora and fauna of the exotic world in the movie Avatar, I agree with you that games allow us to put ourselves within that world, even as far as within the skin and personality of another.
D&D does this through the building of a character. The fifth edition in particular introduced the idea of personality traits, ideals, bonds, and flaws to help players get into the role of their character.
Fiasco does this through the relationships and needs, but my favorite part is how the rulebook itself makes a point of pulling players into the story. They point out that we are not just roleplaying a scene at a nightclub, but one of us is playing the part of the nightclub owner, another is the talent, and another is planning a robbery. Get off the sidelines and don't be a spectator, but get into the action of the story. It's great fun.
I haven't played a RPG with traditional GM/player role division in – probably decades, at this point. GM-less games turned into my forte after I realized that I really just got tired of being the GM for everyone, all the time.
I've written a couple of articles on experience with highly narrative focused games on Steemit which were relatively well received.
Story-first games which don't have room for someone to sit around and simply be a spectator are definitely far superior in terms of the gameplay that they generate, in my personal experience, than the alternative. Being able to experience character within the context of understanding what's going on in the setting is just a huge gearshift.
(Of course, I also love games where the idea of "character" is not really applicable. Microscope is probably the best example of that. It's not a game you play for character immersion but rather for world exploration, and it both caters to and rewards approaching the experience at the table from that perspective.)
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I know what you mean about being the GM for everyone. I played my first D&D game when I was ~6. I remember this because between 1st and 2nd grade my family moved to a rural area and I have never played a campaign in person again.
Online I have had the same experience as you. After a half dozen or so D&D games fizzled out, I decided I wanted to play bad enough to try as GM. The game is still going and will hit two years next month. It is fun, but can be exhausting.
What I'm really after is a game that combines strategy, tactics, and roleplaying on an individual character level similar to D&D, but with no DM and can be played start-to-finish in one night.
As an example, is there a game that rewards a thief for stealing from monsters and players while at the same time rewarding a paladin for being brave and chivalrous? It seems like most roleplaying games fall into two ends of the spectrum. I see lots of games where the roleplaying is cooperative and imaginative, and the focus is on the flavor, style, and shared creation of drama. There's no competition, and there's intentionally no way to measure success or failure.
On the other end, I also see a lot of games where the thief has an advantage to steal and paladin has an advantage to protect, and these are rigid and fixed. Then usually there is a primary quest or goal and we're supposed to use our unique tools to accomplish this. I'm a thief or paladin on a quest, rather than my quest is to be the best thief or paladin I can be.
How about a game where the challenge is this: I am just like everyone else, except I have different goals and different values. The paladin can steal just as well as the thief, but that's not how he wins. The thief can help or hurt, but it is maybe easier to steal from a dead person, and stealing is how he wins.
Do you know of any games anything like this?
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