RE: Libertarian Social Democracy: Delegative Democracy, Land Value Tax, & Universal Basic Income

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Libertarian Social Democracy: Delegative Democracy, Land Value Tax, & Universal Basic Income

in georgism •  7 years ago  (edited)

Eventually, sure...markets will be obsolete. Fully-Automated Luxury Communism is the end goal, but LVT & UBI will be necessary in the transition. Also, communism and a post-market, post-money society isn't anything we can achieve at the moment. We aren't ready for it. I have written on the idea of using something like a blockchain to facilitate communism at some point: https://steemit.com/communism/@ekklesiagora/blockchain-communism
Mostly, I think by time we abolish money, it will be something more transhumanist and utopian, which will feel more trans-communist or post-communist than communist...like, there will never be communal storehouses and such...we'll have replicators and magic nanotechnology that builds whatever we want on command out of the atoms in the air.

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I confess I quite agree with @everittdmickey regarding his main complaints with government, so I really cannot envision communism being any more functional than the Soviet Union, for the very reasons the Soviet Union was not actually communist.

Post-communist is certainly fine, as long as we skip the communism =p

I doubt we can manage a gentle transition to a post-market economy, regardless of what we try. What I fear is corruption more than anything, as I reckon ANY system of government in which government servants are just will be better than any system of government that can be actually achieved - because corruption.

Given endemic corruption, the least potent government does the least harm. Thus socialist and communist government end up doing more harm than governments that propose less intrusion on individual liberty.

And, I don't think we'll abolish money, in the end. I think it will just become obsolete. We increasingly won't need it, and those who've hoarded it will never divest, until it becomes too late to gain any social capital from doing so.

By then, no one will want any, and hoarders will be pitied.

If you want a look at communism, look at catalonia in the thirties, or chiapas today.

Probably the most successful example I can bring to mind is the early Pentecostal church, from the Book of Acts.

However, God striking dead 'cheaters' seems a bit much, so I refrain from signing on.

RAGTM has a great song in which the lyric of indiginous peoples in Chiapas (I think) is 'Everything for everyone. Nothing for myself.'

I think that's also a bit much. Because if everyone refuses those things that come to them (nothing for myself) everyone refuses everything, and everyone starves to death, naked, and homeless.

At least in good company tho!

Fits right in with keep working, stop paying, the workaholics will put us all out to pasture.

I don't remember much about the bible since I read this: https://archive.org/details/TheSacredMushroomAndTheCrossJohnM.Allegro, and lost my religion to an old jew I met in the county jail.

Luckily - or unfortunately, as it turned out - I lost mine to the most beautiful woman I have ever met.

Nothing has ever turned out worse for me.

I still have one, i only lost the one forced upon me as a kid.
Its pretty simple.
On the left the ultimate evil, on the right the ultimate good.
Everybody falls inbetween.
Most of us to the left of mohammad ali and to the right of the bushes.
As we go through life we move left and right according to how we interact with others, and when we die, there we are.

We are the sum of our choices.